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[Yellowlord]

Something tells me I should of not said anything about that... I apologize if I wronged anybody.

I just haven't been feeling good (emotion wise, I am not sick) and am not sure how I could keep myself happy today beyond the usual video watching and BP farming in Pokemon Moon...

 

[Professor Pumpkaboo]

Something tells me I should of not said anything about that... I apologize if I wronged anybody.

I just haven't been feeling good (emotion wise, I am not sick) and am not sure how I could keep myself happy today beyond the usual video watching and BP farming in Pokemon Moon...

Its more me getting annoyed by all the negativity

I'll just stick to my Saltybet till thigs get ok here. Ive been getting a lot of new songs from that channal tbh

 

[Arcanir]

I think my questions as of right now are basically this:
1) How much lower quality is the Switch compared to Xbox One and PS4? This may've been explained in the article and I'm just not getting it from the specs, but this detail is important for multiple reasons, including enticing third parties. So if it's still close to their quality, then it still could be fine as I wasn't expecting the Switch to surpass the PS4 or Xbox One and the promise of a dual handheld/console system is still rather enticing, but that leads to question 2, which is...
2) How easy will it be to port games? The Wii U had a decent first party library, but its third party offerings were, to be blunt, barebones at best, terrible at worst. If the Switch can still get at least a good chunk of the notable third party games and companies under its belt, then I don't mind the hit to the specs, but if they can't port it too easily then that's very disappointing and that could very well be a dealbreaker for many.

Other then that, I'm just taking the wait and see approach. This news definitely isn't promising, but I'm not going to jump ship just yet, I want to know more of the full picture first before making any decisions either way.

 

[KingofPhantoms]

I'm not really bothered by the specs myself much.

And wasn't the Switch marketed as both a console/home system and mobile/handheld system? I thought the reveal trailer made it pretty clear that it was, at least.

 

[Solfiner]

the Switch has definitely been marketed as a handheld more than a console, just look at the reveal trailer.

 

[Champ Gold]

I know that the Switch will possibly have the Vita third party support which from a Japanese perspective, that's massively huge and means Switch won't miss out on games like Monster Hunter, Dragon Quest, Danga Rompa, SMT and the high quality stuff from Capcom, Sega, Bamco, SE and Koei Tecmo which is fine for me some that means they'll use it for the portable/mobile aspect.


Even then, Third Parties will stick around if the system sells which will matter if it sells.

 

[Wario Bros.]

I still want to know what (or if) Nintendo will do for Switch buyers who also supported the Wii U during its painful and long struggles.

 

[AwesomeAussie27]

Uh @Warchamp7, mind fixing the image uploader for this site?

 

[Champ Gold]

Also the hero king himself won a Smash 4 major last night at ZeRo Saga

 

[Opossum]

the Switch has definitely been marketed as a handheld more than a console, just look at the reveal trailer.

Not at all. If it were marketed as a handheld, Nintendo wouldn't be AS adamant about it not being a 3DS successor. That's different than the whole "third pillar" thing they pull...if this were meant to be more of a handheld they wouldn't have said that about the 3DS.

It's blatantly their next home console...that just happens to be portable.

 

[praline]

Man I was with my mom when she bought my Christmas gift.

Now I gotta wait a whole week knowing what it is!

 

[Professor Pumpkaboo]

Man I was with my mom when she bought my Christmas gift.

Now I gotta wait a whole week knowing what it is!

oh god I hate that. Its even worse when you know what it is, and you cant touch it for a week

 

[Swamp Sensei]

I understand gameplay is more important than graphics. I agree, but we really need that power. It's barely more powerful than the Wii U when docked and less powerful when undocked.

That is bad.

 

[Metal Shop X]

I understand gameplay is more important than graphics. I agree, but we really need that power. It's barely more powerful than the Wii U when docked and less powerful when undocked.

That isbad.

'Still better than the PSVita, who had the selling point to be more powerful than the 3DS, and, well, you know the rest.
And the PS2 wasn't that powerful compared to the Gamecube and it's still one of the best selling console of all time. Because it had a ****load of great games to help it.

Just my opi-opinion tough.

 

[praline]

oh god I hate that. Its even worse when you know what it is, and you cant touch it for a week

My mom was like "pretend you didn't see it."

Yeah ok like I'm gonna ignore that.

 

[Swamp Sensei]

'Still better than the PSVita, who had the selling point to be more powerful than the 3DS, and, well, you know the rest.
And the PS2 wasn't that powerful compared to the Gamecube and it's still one of the best selling console of all time. Because it had a ****load of great games to help it.

Just my opi-opinion tough.

Why are people getting defensive over this?


I understand power isn't everything but if the Switch isn't powerful enough to keep third party support its doomed.

 

[Opossum]

'Still better than the PSVita, who had the selling point to be more powerful than the 3DS, and, well, you know the rest.
And the PS2 wasn't that powerful compared to the Gamecube and it's still one of the best selling console of all time. Because it had a ****load of great games to help it.

Just my opi-opinion tough.

Yeah, the bolded is important, but that's a lot harder to do without third party support.

 

[Professor Pumpkaboo]

My mom was like "pretend you didn't see it."

Yeah ok like I'm gonna ignore that.

Maybe you will be like me and actually forget what you saw and come Christmas you will be " Oh ****"

 

[Metal Shop X]

Why are people getting defensive over this?


I understand power isn't everything but if the Switch isn't powerful enough to keep third party support its doomed.

I am not defensif, I am just explaining that games matter more than power.
If a console that had less power that others console was still the big winner of the three. Why it can't happen again? I am not trying to put down your point but the Switch can still be a good console without needing to be a war machine in my opinion.

Yeah, the bolded is important, but that's a lot harder to do without third party support.

Yup, this is why I say that Nintendo need to bring their best in term of first and third party support, or less, they risk to pull off another Wii U/Gamecube.

 

[praline]

Maybe you will be like me and actually forget what you saw and come Christmas you will be " Oh ****"

I hope so!

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

The thing that matters to me is battery life for a handheld

If it's only going to last 4 hours, I have a problem with it

 

[Wolfie557]

I'll probaly only take it out once every few months, (excluding holidays) ...so battery life isn't a biggie for me.

That is, if I do get it. Defo not at launch.

Power & Games are the most important thing right now. They got the look and feel right, as well as games in the short term even tho we barely seen any.

Really want:

• Dragon Quest 11
• Zelda BoftW
• Smash Switch

 

[Coricus]

Why are people getting defensive over this?


I understand power isn't everything but if the Switch isn't powerful enough to keep third party support its doomed.

Well the word "doomed" probably doesn't help, considering the whole "Nintendoomed since 1889" thing.

Let's look at the two generations before the Wii U. The Wii had horrible specs and was ignored by many third parties, it's one of the highest selling systems of all time. The Gamecube had excellent specs more than capable of handling ports, it's the second worst selling mainline console after the Wii U.

Nintendo's issues with third parties run well beyond specs, and Nintendo can still do things without them if they brainstorm the right idea at the right time and their marketing team is clever enough to do the job.

 

[Schnee117]

I for one can't wait to play watered down ports on the Switch.
/s

If a console that had less power that others console was still the big winner of the three. Why it can't happen again?

Because Motion Controls were an extremely hot gimmick.
The Wii was lightning in a bottle.

 

[AwesomeAussie27]

I think hype works like I hear Vegemite does.

It's something that requires to an extent knowing what you're getting into and is only meant to be applied lightly, but a lot of people just glob it on without knowing what's going on and then act surprised when they don't like the taste.

Or like trying a seasoning you've never had before and just dumping the whole container onto your food.

Hype is fine, just don't overdo it and make sure you actually know what you're getting hyped for. I feel like things would be a lot easier if people could actually get excited over what they've actually seen instead of having to make up or exaggerate things to get excited about. But apparently realistic things just aren't exciting to people anymore.

I want to get excited over new tentacle styles in Splatoon, or the fact that we might possibly see follower Pokemon in the next Pokemon game (although the latter isn't a guarantee and my expectations are kept in check as such). Aren't the little things worth getting excited about too??

People just have to keep in mind that things might happen or they might not. Cool if they do, it's OK if they don't.

You what mate?

Sorry, I just don't like it when people talk down on Vegemite.

 

[praline]

Since noone saw it I'll post it again

Here's the list of my pokemon all 174. I probably won't add more just make better names.
It goes:
dex number-name-typing-basic description
* is starter
- is legendary
~ is mythical

Spoiler: My pokemon list

1. Grabbit: Grass* rabbit
2. Jackabolt: Grass/Electric* jackalope
3. Voltare: Grass/Electric* jackalope
4. Dollard: Water* mallard
5. Turquack: Water* goose
6. Ametheese: Water/Diamond* goose
7. Flamb: Fire* lamb
8. Bleatoast: Fire* lamb
9. Vulram: Fire/Steel* krampus
10. Wheelie: Normal armadillo
11. Roadillo: Normal armadillo
12. Chikade: Normal/Flying prairie chicken
13. Clukkhen: Normal/Flying hen
14. Crooster: Fighting/Flying rooster
15. Bugard: Poison/Bug maggot
16. Magenie: Poison/Fairy maggot
17. Flyjinn: Poison/Fairy fly
18. Gruburn: Bug grub
19. Coaloon: Bug/Fire cocoon
20. Mesquito: Bug/Fire mosquito
21. Snoworm: Bug worm
22. Snocoon: Bug/Ice cocoon
23. Snoller: Bug/Ice dung beetle
24. Algeel: Water/Grass eel
25. Hydralgae: Dragon/Grass hydra
26. Wallawalla: (Grass/Fire/Rock) onion
27. Kindrill: Fighting mandrill
28. Ringish: Water fish caught in pop can rings
29. Moople: Ground calf
30. Steeryp: Ground steer
31. Koalapse: Fairy koala
32. Koalify: Fairy koala
33. Koalypso: Fairy koala
34. Gearbil: Electric/Fighting gerbil
35. Frynd: Fire fries
36. Burgre: Fire/Fighting burger ogre
37. Knitrus: Fairy orange knight
38. Citrurion: Fairy/Ground orange knight
39. Mortalier: Ghost/Fighting skeleton knight
40. Moros: Ghost/Fighting skeleton knight
41. Spireon: Light
42. Crysteon: Diamond
43. Venatrice: Flying/Poison cockatrice
44. Bleaker: Poison/Psychic beaker
45. Bandoon: Normal racoon
46. Racassin: Normal racoon
47. Cakesty: Light/Fairy cupcake
48. Delecake: Light/Fairy cake
49. Pumprince: Grass/Fire pumpkin
50. Pumpking: Grass/Fire pumpkin
51. Vixical: Flying/Normal harpy
52. Ghoulfriend: Flying/Fighting harpy
53. Flasherel: Electric/Flying flying fish
54. Dolphage: Electric/Flying dolphin
55. Balisbat: Fighting/Flying flying fox
56. Hwabat: Fighting/Flying giant flying fox
57. Emp: Electric/Dragon amp
58. Targon: Electric/Dragon guitar
59. Whirloise: Flying snapping turtle
60. Pummelgranate: Fighting/Grass pomegranate
61. Pomereign: Fighting/Diamond pomegranate
62. Empranate: Fighting/Diamond pomegranate
63. Jeltle: Water/Fairy water bottle
64. Jelug: Water/Fairy water jug
65. Coronub: Fairy angel
66. Auroraph: Fairy angel
67. Trumpeist: Ghost trumpet
68. Panikin: Light/Ghost doll
69. Platypois: Poison platypus
70. Alplaya: Ice alpaca
71. Himillama: Ice/Dragon llama
72. Buzzlocke: Bug/Rock tarantula hawk
73. Taranoom: Bug/Dark trapdoor spider
74. Arachnise: Bug/Dark trapdoor spider
75. Jinglire: Fire rattlesnake
76. Cobrit: Fire cobra
77. Quetzare: Fire quetzacoatl
78. Vistare: Poison lamia
79. Miasmare: Poison medusa
80. Eyeflict: Dark/Water eyeball
81. Tortose: Water tortoise
82. Vapoise: Water tortoise
83. Turtaqua: Water/Steel tortoise
84. Maliggan: Dark/Light succubus
85. Hostilith: Fairy/Fighting incubus
86. Tussel: Water mussel
87. Moultle: Ghost/Flying magpie
88. Flightening: Ghost/Flying magpie
89. Reavan: Ghost/Flying raven
90. Blubudae: Water(Water/Ground) blobfish
91. Dubimoth: Dark/Fairy mothman
92. Vishrike: Fairy/Flying shrike
93. Cardinoar: Fairy/Flying cardinal
94. Dewsmay: Dark/Ground flatwoods monster
95. Scorpeater: Bug/Normal pistol claw lobster
96. Clawvolver: Bug/Normal revolver claw lobster
97. Umbrelard: Flying umbrella
98. Spearosis: Water/Fighting swordfish
99. Oceaniedge: Water/Fighting manatee
100. Technome: Normal lawn gnome
101. Goblynth: Normal goblin
102. Tregant: Grass/Water ent
103. Tregas: Grass/Water ent
104. Locarrier: Bug/Flying grasshopper
105. Mohlitia: Bug/Diamond grasshopper
106. Psyfowl: Psychic/Flying peacock
107. Psyphasia: Psychic/Flying peacock
108. Dinout: Ice/Poison gila monster
109. Rapturst: Ice/Poison gila monster
110. Torrex: Ice/Poison gila monster
111. Cranimallet: Water/Rock barracuda
112. Warsphyrna: Water/Rock hammerhead
113. Belloth: Grass/Fighting sloth bear
114. Berout: Grass/Fighting sloth bear
115. Bananan: Grass banana
116. Bananice: Grass/Ice banana split
117. Lathair: Normal/Ghost sponge fish
118. Baithe: Normal/Ghost sponge fish
119. Unihorn: Light unicorn
120. Legensus: Light/Flying pegasus
121. Spacely: Steel/Flying spaceship
122. Whirrling: Steel/Flying dreadnought
123. Pitanaga: Fire/Dragon pitahaya
124. Captaya: Fire/Dragon pitahaya
125. Pitahyrant: Fire/Dragon pitahaya
126. Snomad: Ice/Psychic snowman
127. Pupperoni: Normal weiner dog puppy
128. Ruffwurst: Normal/Ground weiner dog
129. Dognite: Normal/Fire weiner dog
130. Raindelion: Grass/Fairy dandelion
131. Dandeleo: Grass/Fairy dandelion
132. Gigalien: Ground/Fighting great galactic ghoul
133. Brix: Rock/Normal bricks
134. Chimbrix: Rock/Fire chimeny
135. Poltery: Rock/Ghost possesed pottery
136. Spirimid: Rock/Ghost pyramid
137. Cephalossol: Water/Poison giant squid/kraken
138. Bernamic: Dark black bear
139. Berectric: Dark/Electric black bear
140. Zomby: Ghost zombie
141. Infekded: Ghost zombie
142. Megalorca: Water orca whale
143. Totite: Grass/Ground totempole
144. Totegend: Grass/Ground totem pole
145. Geckorn: Diamond/Normal lizard
146. Lizlice: Diamond/Normal lizard
147. Cleavodo: Diamond/Normal Komodo dragon
148. Puppedo: Normal dalmation puppy
149. Dalmotion: Normal dalmation
150. Calfnit: Normal calf
151. Moonister: Normal/Fighting moose
152. Galaxang: Dragon/Ghost ghost horse
153. Mirrorror: Dark/Ghost haunted mirror
154. Helmure: Poison/Steel possessed helmet
155. Armile: Poison/Steel possessed armour
156. Knightveil: Poison/Steel possessed suit or armour
157. Clalynx: Normal lynx kitten
158. Lynlash: Normal lynx
159. Crocire: Water/Dragon crocodile
160. Dragloch: Water/Dragon Loch Ness monster
161. Kabloom: Grass/Ground tulip
162. Paralura: Diamond/Ghost asura
163. Diamura: Diamond/Ghost asura
164. Femingo: Water flamingo
165. Glamingo: Water/Psychic flamingo
166. Gekoe: Grass gecko
167. Figuana: Grass iguana
168. Capsyrn: Grass/Dragon wyvern
169. Wailyin: Water/Ghost- banshee
170. Mothamia: Bug/Psychic- female hercules moth
171. Venoom: Poison/Dragon- tapeworm
172. Howlark: Dark/Fighting~ Ozark howler
173. Aristocore: Diamond/Flying~ Manticore
174. Revelvet: Normal/Fairy~ Wolpertinger

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

LOL, Tentacruel's pokedex entry says it's a rare pokemon

Maybe I can trade it for a Solgaleo

 

[Professor Pumpkaboo]

Since noone saw it I'll post it again

Here's the list of my pokemon all 174. I probably won't add more just make better names.
It goes:
dex number-name-typing-basic description
* is starter
- is legendary
~ is mythical

Spoiler: My pokemon list

1. Grabbit: Grass* rabbit
2. Jackabolt: Grass/Electric* jackalope
3. Voltare: Grass/Electric* jackalope
4. Dollard: Water* mallard
5. Turquack: Water* goose
6. Ametheese: Water/Diamond* goose
7. Flamb: Fire* lamb
8. Bleatoast: Fire* lamb
9. Vulram: Fire/Steel* krampus
10. Wheelie: Normal armadillo
11. Roadillo: Normal armadillo
12. Chikade: Normal/Flying prairie chicken
13. Clukkhen: Normal/Flying hen
14. Crooster: Fighting/Flying rooster
15. Bugard: Poison/Bug maggot
16. Magenie: Poison/Fairy maggot
17. Flyjinn: Poison/Fairy fly
18. Gruburn: Bug grub
19. Coaloon: Bug/Fire cocoon
20. Mesquito: Bug/Fire mosquito
21. Snoworm: Bug worm
22. Snocoon: Bug/Ice cocoon
23. Snoller: Bug/Ice dung beetle
24. Algeel: Water/Grass eel
25. Hydralgae: Dragon/Grass hydra
26. Wallawalla: (Grass/Fire/Rock) onion
27. Kindrill: Fighting mandrill
28. Ringish: Water fish caught in pop can rings
29. Moople: Ground calf
30. Steeryp: Ground steer
31. Koalapse: Fairy koala
32. Koalify: Fairy koala
33. Koalypso: Fairy koala
34. Gearbil: Electric/Fighting gerbil
35. Frynd: Fire fries
36. Burgre: Fire/Fighting burger ogre
37. Knitrus: Fairy orange knight
38. Citrurion: Fairy/Ground orange knight
39. Mortalier: Ghost/Fighting skeleton knight
40. Moros: Ghost/Fighting skeleton knight
41. Spireon: Light
42. Crysteon: Diamond
43. Venatrice: Flying/Poison cockatrice
44. Bleaker: Poison/Psychic beaker
45. Bandoon: Normal racoon
46. Racassin: Normal racoon
47. Cakesty: Light/Fairy cupcake
48. Delecake: Light/Fairy cake
49. Pumprince: Grass/Fire pumpkin
50. Pumpking: Grass/Fire pumpkin
51. Vixical: Flying/Normal harpy
52. Ghoulfriend: Flying/Fighting harpy
53. Flasherel: Electric/Flying flying fish
54. Dolphage: Electric/Flying dolphin
55. Balisbat: Fighting/Flying flying fox
56. Hwabat: Fighting/Flying giant flying fox
57. Emp: Electric/Dragon amp
58. Targon: Electric/Dragon guitar
59. Whirloise: Flying snapping turtle
60. Pummelgranate: Fighting/Grass pomegranate
61. Pomereign: Fighting/Diamond pomegranate
62. Empranate: Fighting/Diamond pomegranate
63. Jeltle: Water/Fairy water bottle
64. Jelug: Water/Fairy water jug
65. Coronub: Fairy angel
66. Auroraph: Fairy angel
67. Trumpeist: Ghost trumpet
68. Panikin: Light/Ghost doll
69. Platypois: Poison platypus
70. Alplaya: Ice alpaca
71. Himillama: Ice/Dragon llama
72. Buzzlocke: Bug/Rock tarantula hawk
73. Taranoom: Bug/Dark trapdoor spider
74. Arachnise: Bug/Dark trapdoor spider
75. Jinglire: Fire rattlesnake
76. Cobrit: Fire cobra
77. Quetzare: Fire quetzacoatl
78. Vistare: Poison lamia
79. Miasmare: Poison medusa
80. Eyeflict: Dark/Water eyeball
81. Tortose: Water tortoise
82. Vapoise: Water tortoise
83. Turtaqua: Water/Steel tortoise
84. Maliggan: Dark/Light succubus
85. Hostilith: Fairy/Fighting incubus
86. Tussel: Water mussel
87. Moultle: Ghost/Flying magpie
88. Flightening: Ghost/Flying magpie
89. Reavan: Ghost/Flying raven
90. Blubudae: Water(Water/Ground) blobfish
91. Dubimoth: Dark/Fairy mothman
92. Vishrike: Fairy/Flying shrike
93. Cardinoar: Fairy/Flying cardinal
94. Dewsmay: Dark/Ground flatwoods monster
95. Scorpeater: Bug/Normal pistol claw lobster
96. Clawvolver: Bug/Normal revolver claw lobster
97. Umbrelard: Flying umbrella
98. Spearosis: Water/Fighting swordfish
99. Oceaniedge: Water/Fighting manatee
100. Technome: Normal lawn gnome
101. Goblynth: Normal goblin
102. Tregant: Grass/Water ent
103. Tregas: Grass/Water ent
104. Locarrier: Bug/Flying grasshopper
105. Mohlitia: Bug/Diamond grasshopper
106. Psyfowl: Psychic/Flying peacock
107. Psyphasia: Psychic/Flying peacock
108. Dinout: Ice/Poison gila monster
109. Rapturst: Ice/Poison gila monster
110. Torrex: Ice/Poison gila monster
111. Cranimallet: Water/Rock barracuda
112. Warsphyrna: Water/Rock hammerhead
113. Belloth: Grass/Fighting sloth bear
114. Berout: Grass/Fighting sloth bear
115. Bananan: Grass banana
116. Bananice: Grass/Ice banana split
117. Lathair: Normal/Ghost sponge fish
118. Baithe: Normal/Ghost sponge fish
119. Unihorn: Light unicorn
120. Legensus: Light/Flying pegasus
121. Spacely: Steel/Flying spaceship
122. Whirrling: Steel/Flying dreadnought
123. Pitanaga: Fire/Dragon pitahaya
124. Captaya: Fire/Dragon pitahaya
125. Pitahyrant: Fire/Dragon pitahaya
126. Snomad: Ice/Psychic snowman
127. Pupperoni: Normal weiner dog puppy
128. Ruffwurst: Normal/Ground weiner dog
129. Dognite: Normal/Fire weiner dog
130. Raindelion: Grass/Fairy dandelion
131. Dandeleo: Grass/Fairy dandelion
132. Gigalien: Ground/Fighting great galactic ghoul
133. Brix: Rock/Normal bricks
134. Chimbrix: Rock/Fire chimeny
135. Poltery: Rock/Ghost possesed pottery
136. Spirimid: Rock/Ghost pyramid
137. Cephalossol: Water/Poison giant squid/kraken
138. Bernamic: Dark black bear
139. Berectric: Dark/Electric black bear
140. Zomby: Ghost zombie
141. Infekded: Ghost zombie
142. Megalorca: Water orca whale
143. Totite: Grass/Ground totempole
144. Totegend: Grass/Ground totem pole
145. Geckorn: Diamond/Normal lizard
146. Lizlice: Diamond/Normal lizard
147. Cleavodo: Diamond/Normal Komodo dragon
148. Puppedo: Normal dalmation puppy
149. Dalmotion: Normal dalmation
150. Calfnit: Normal calf
151. Moonister: Normal/Fighting moose
152. Galaxang: Dragon/Ghost ghost horse
153. Mirrorror: Dark/Ghost haunted mirror
154. Helmure: Poison/Steel possessed helmet
155. Armile: Poison/Steel possessed armour
156. Knightveil: Poison/Steel possessed suit or armour
157. Clalynx: Normal lynx kitten
158. Lynlash: Normal lynx
159. Crocire: Water/Dragon crocodile
160. Dragloch: Water/Dragon Loch Ness monster
161. Kabloom: Grass/Ground tulip
162. Paralura: Diamond/Ghost asura
163. Diamura: Diamond/Ghost asura
164. Femingo: Water flamingo
165. Glamingo: Water/Psychic flamingo
166. Gekoe: Grass gecko
167. Figuana: Grass iguana
168. Capsyrn: Grass/Dragon wyvern
169. Wailyin: Water/Ghost- banshee
170. Mothamia: Bug/Psychic- female hercules moth
171. Venoom: Poison/Dragon- tapeworm
172. Howlark: Dark/Fighting~ Ozark howler
173. Aristocore: Diamond/Flying~ Manticore
174. Revelvet: Normal/Fairy~ Wolpertinger

Whats a hercules moth? Hold on let me-
*sees it*
Sold, Wish that was real

 

[Yomi's Biggest Fan]

Imagine if Chiko were still here.

Nah, he's definitely coming back for sure.

 

[Opossum]

Well the word "doomed" probably doesn't help, considering the whole "Nintendoomed since 1889" thing.

Let's look at the two generations before the Wii U. The Wii had horrible specs and was ignored by many third parties, it's one of the highest selling systems of all time. The Gamecube had excellent specs more than capable of handling ports, it's the second worst selling mainline console after the Wii U.

Nintendo's issues with third parties run well beyond specs, and Nintendo can still do things without them if they brainstorm the right idea at the right time and their marketing team is clever enough to do the job.

Wii was lightning in a bottle. Motion controls were brand new at the time since technology wasn't as advanced then. Nothing about the Switch is, objectively, AS groundbreaking as that was.

Even then, tons of the folks who bought the Wii played Wii Sports for five minutes and then, likely, didn't use it much after that. The market that bought the Wii in that large of quantity is gone, a combination of Technology Marches On and the rise of innovation with smart devices/mobile gaming.

It's telling that Nintendo consoles have always sold worse than the previous one, with the sole exception of the Wii (entirely due to right place right time).

 

[praline]

Whats a hercules moth? Hold on let me-
*sees it*
Sold, Wish that was real

Well Mothamia has a 15 foot wingspan so would you really want it to be real?

 

[Metal Shop X]

I for one can't wait to play watered down ports on the Switch.
/s



Because Motion Controls were an extremely hot gimmick.
The Wii was lightning in a bottle.

But what about the PS2? Isn't the console less powerful that the XBOX and the Gamecube?
As you said, the Wii selled like bread because it has a cool gimmick at the time, same as the DS, they tried again with the Wii U. Gimmick weren't the thing this time and the game weren't there, so, it fall down.
If the Switch can gain alot of help, or if Nintendo release their best games at the launch of the console, they will have more support this time, or at the very least, more game to help the console. (The Wii U had a weak launch and after that, very few games were here because the console was launched too early)
But now, I feel like that guy who is trying too hard to get in a debate with his argument, and honestly, I don't like that all. I just try to have a "positif" opinion on a new that make most people cynical. And I don't want to sound like a arrogant person, because really, nobody want to feel like that kind of guy.

Then again, I don't like debate in general, so I may have dig my own hole on this one...
So...can we talk about how The Lion King was a good movie?...

 

[Professor Pumpkaboo]

So...can we talk about how The Lion King was a good movie?...

Was? You mean is
I saw the play with my mom as a kid and i loved it

 

[Yomi's Biggest Fan]

So...can we talk about how The Lion King was a good movie?...

I'm certainly looking forward to the live action movie.

Just wonder why Disney all of a sudden feels the need to readapt a lot of them for these coming years.

 

[Wolfie557]

Edit: everyone is blue at the bottom and I'm right in the middle Purple . Looks pretty.

But what about the PS2? Isn't the console less powerful that the XBOX and the Gamecube?
As you said, the Wii selled like bread because it has a cool gimmick at the time, same as the DS, they tried again with the Wii U. Gimmick weren't the thing this time and the game weren't there, so, it fall down.
If the Switch can gain alot of help, or if Nintendo release their best games at the launch of the console, they will have more support this time, or at the very least, more game to help the console. (The Wii U had a weak launch and after that, very few games were here because the console was launched too early)
But now, I feel like that guy who is trying too hard to get in a debate with his argument, and honestly, I don't like that all. I just try to have a "positif" opinion on a new that make most people cynical. And I don't want to sound like a arrogant person, because really, nobody want to feel like that kind of guy.

Then again, I don't like debate in general, so I may have dig my own hole on this one...
So...can we talk about how The Lion King was a good movie?...

The PS2 was also a CD/DVD player. Or something.

 

[Metal Shop X]

Was? You mean is
I saw the play with my mom as a kid and i loved it

Yes! Exactly! My bad, hahaha, haaaaaa......
I'm feeling really down right now...
But yeah, I love this film, who doesn't?

I'm certainly looking forward to the live action movie.

Just wonder why Disney all of a sudden feels the need to readapt a lot of them for these coming years.

It is like a project or something? Remaking all the Disney movie in live-action style perhaps?
I don't know to be honest.

 

[Coricus]

I for one can't wait to play watered down ports on the Switch.
/s



Because Motion Controls were an extremely hot gimmick.
The Wii was lightning in a bottle.

The Wii may have been lightning in a bottle, but the Gamecube shows that the whole "If we have specs, then third parties will come and the console will sell gazillions!" narrative doesn't quite work in practice.

Nintendo is the "kiddy" company. Nintendo is the company that makes alternate data storage types, Nintendo is the company that had strict rules for games at one point in the distant past. Third parties do not "like" Nintendo. The fact that the Switch uses carts would raise enough eyebrows even if it were a powerhouse, and the fact that more third parties are even considering at all is probably because the system looks more "adult."

Wii was lightning in a bottle. Motion controls were brand new at the time since technology wasn't as advanced then. Nothing about the Switch is, objectively, AS groundbreaking as the that was.

Even then, tons of the folks who bought the Wii played Wii Sports for five minutes and then, likely, didn't use it much after that. The market that bought the Wii in that large of quantity is gone, a combination of Technology Marches On and the rise of innovation with smart devices/mobile gaming.

It's telling that Nintendo consoles have always sold worse than the previous one, with the sole exception of the Wii (entirely due to right place right time).

Which is exactly why they're fusing it into their market that has a similar history but still ranks head and shoulders above their console market every single generation, by a gap of dozens of millions no matter the generation.

Nintendo's trying to drive off the downward slope by making their most successful market part of their spotlight and following the Japanese industry where it's going: out of the house.

Specs never had anything to do with Nintendo's success however, as their sales continued to drop even as the power of their specs bobbed up and down between the average.

 

[Kurri ★]

'Still better than the PSVita, who had the selling point to be more powerful than the 3DS, and, well, you know the rest.
And the PS2 wasn't that powerful compared to the Gamecube and it's still one of the best selling console of all time. Because it had a ****load of great games to help it.

Just my opi-opinion tough.

You have to understand why the PS2 did better than the Gamecube despite being less powerful.

Yeah, it was less powerful in a graphical sense, but it also used less restrictive hardware, opting to use DVDs that stored a lot more data than the proprietary Mini-discs of the Gamecube. PS1 succeeded for similar reasons, opting to use Discs over cartridges. Even if the overall hardware was weaker, those few aspects can make a huge difference.

 

[Aetheri]

Everyone's losing their minds over what is a currently unconfirmed rumour....

People pls...

 

[Deleted member]

The PS2 was also a CD/DVD player. Or something.

It's a DVD player too, which helped it a lot. My family still uses it to this day for that reason.