Social NintenZone Social 4 - Bring It In, Guys!

[Aurane]

yeah lol. I wonder how may people went to the Disco room and are bothering staying there

They're in for a shock at how dumb the disco room is,

What is this- the gathering of the Disco Room haters?

If activity rises there, I'll probably go back.

 

[Cyn]

They're in for a shock at how dumb the disco room is,

It's only as dumb as people make it.

But yes. Dumb.

 

[Aurane]

It's only as dumb as people make it.

But yes. Dumb.

Wait until Smash speculation season returns, then you'll all remember why the Disco is superior.

 

[Professor Pumpkaboo]

Wait until Smash speculation season returns, then you'll all remember why the Disco is superior.

Hmm *remembers my time there*

I think I'll stay here. I dont think I wanna go back

 

[Robert of Normandy]

I don't know what this "Disco Room" is, but it sounds disappointing.

 

[MF Viewtiful]

I don't know what this "Disco Room" is, but it sounds disappointing.

They don't even play disco music there. Disappointing indeed.

 

[Champ Gold]

They don't even play disco music there. Disappointing indeed.

Blame Warchamp for that.


It's called a Disco Room but no one is dancing

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

Don't you guys know already?

 

[Professor Pumpkaboo]

Blame Warchamp for that.


It's called a Disco Room but no one is dancing

Unless its dancing around arguments
Bad dum tiss

 

[wedl!!]

Disco is a good genre (as if genre really matters much) which is very historically important.

The Disco Room is neither of those.

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

Xurkitree and Celesteela are the only pokemon not registered in my pokedex

I'm trying to remedy that now

 

[Volga]

Blame Warchamp for that.


It's called a Disco Room but no one is dancing

There's only so much dancing Carlton can do

 

[AwesomeAussie27]

The thing I like about this One Piece arc is that everyone is too harsh to judge Pudding when we haven't seen that much of her character.

At least it was justified for crybabies like Shirahoshi and Rebecca.

 

[MF Viewtiful]

There's only so much dancing Carlton can do

Time to bring in the cavalry.

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

I lied. I don't have cosmog line or Necrozma

But I do have a Xurkitree now

 

[A Distant Demon]

The thing I like about this One Piece arc is that everyone is too harsh to judge Pudding when we haven't seen that much of her character.

At least it was justified for crybabies like Shirahoshi and Rebecca.

How could anyone judge Pudding harshly

She is like. . . sweetness personified. She even lives surrounded by food.

 

[praline]

Here's the list of my pokemon all 174. I probably won't add more just make better names.
It goes:
dex number-name-typing-basic description
* is starter
- is legendary
~ is mythical

Spoiler: My pokemon list

1. Grabbit: Grass* rabbit
2. Jackabolt: Grass/Electric* jackalope
3. Voltare: Grass/Electric* jackalope
4. Dollard: Water* mallard
5. Turquack: Water* goose
6. Ametheese: Water/Diamond* goose
7. Flamb: Fire* lamb
8. Bleatoast: Fire* lamb
9. Vulram: Fire/Steel* krampus
10. Wheelie: Normal armadillo
11. Roadillo: Normal armadillo
12. Chikade: Normal/Flying prairie chicken
13. Clukkhen: Normal/Flying hen
14. Crooster: Fighting/Flying rooster
15. Bugard: Poison/Bug maggot
16. Magenie: Poison/Fairy maggot
17. Flyjinn: Poison/Fairy fly
18. Gruburn: Bug grub
19. Coaloon: Bug/Fire cocoon
20. Mesquito: Bug/Fire mosquito
21. Snoworm: Bug worm
22. Snocoon: Bug/Ice cocoon
23. Snoller: Bug/Ice dung beetle
24. Algeel: Water/Grass eel
25. Hydralgae: Dragon/Grass hydra
26. Wallawalla: (Grass/Fire/Rock) onion
27. Kindrill: Fighting mandrill
28. Ringish: Water fish caught in pop can rings
29. Moople: Ground calf
30. Steeryp: Ground steer
31. Koalapse: Fairy koala
32. Koalify: Fairy koala
33. Koalypso: Fairy koala
34. Gearbil: Electric/Fighting gerbil
35. Frynd: Fire fries
36. Burgre: Fire/Fighting burger ogre
37. Knitrus: Fairy orange knight
38. Citrurion: Fairy/Ground orange knight
39. Mortalier: Ghost/Fighting skeleton knight
40. Moros: Ghost/Fighting skeleton knight
41. Spireon: Light
42. Crysteon: Diamond
43. Venatrice: Flying/Poison cockatrice
44. Bleaker: Poison/Psychic beaker
45. Bandoon: Normal racoon
46. Racassin: Normal racoon
47. Cakesty: Light/Fairy cupcake
48. Delecake: Light/Fairy cake
49. Pumprince: Grass/Fire pumpkin
50. Pumpking: Grass/Fire pumpkin
51. Vixical: Flying/Normal harpy
52. Ghoulfriend: Flying/Fighting harpy
53. Flasherel: Electric/Flying flying fish
54. Dolphage: Electric/Flying dolphin
55. Balisbat: Fighting/Flying flying fox
56. Hwabat: Fighting/Flying giant flying fox
57. Emp: Electric/Dragon amp
58. Targon: Electric/Dragon guitar
59. Whirloise: Flying snapping turtle
60. Pummelgranate: Fighting/Grass pomegranate
61. Pomereign: Fighting/Diamond pomegranate
62. Empranate: Fighting/Diamond pomegranate
63. Jeltle: Water/Fairy water bottle
64. Jelug: Water/Fairy water jug
65. Coronub: Fairy angel
66. Auroraph: Fairy angel
67. Trumpeist: Ghost trumpet
68. Panikin: Light/Ghost doll
69. Platypois: Poison platypus
70. Alplaya: Ice alpaca
71. Himillama: Ice/Dragon llama
72. Buzzlocke: Bug/Rock tarantula hawk
73. Taranoom: Bug/Dark trapdoor spider
74. Arachnise: Bug/Dark trapdoor spider
75. Jinglire: Fire rattlesnake
76. Cobrit: Fire cobra
77. Quetzare: Fire quetzacoatl
78. Vistare: Poison lamia
79. Miasmare: Poison medusa
80. Eyeflict: Dark/Water eyeball
81. Tortose: Water tortoise
82. Vapoise: Water tortoise
83. Turtaqua: Water/Steel tortoise
84. Maliggan: Dark/Light succubus
85. Hostilith: Fairy/Fighting incubus
86. Tussel: Water mussel
87. Moultle: Ghost/Flying magpie
88. Flightening: Ghost/Flying magpie
89. Reavan: Ghost/Flying raven
90. Blubudae: Water(Water/Ground) blobfish
91. Dubimoth: Dark/Fairy mothman
92. Vishrike: Fairy/Flying shrike
93. Cardinoar: Fairy/Flying cardinal
94. Dewsmay: Dark/Ground flatwoods monster
95. Scorpeater: Bug/Normal pistol claw lobster
96. Clawvolver: Bug/Normal revolver claw lobster
97. Umbrelard: Flying umbrella
98. Spearosis: Water/Fighting swordfish
99. Oceaniedge: Water/Fighting manatee
100. Technome: Normal lawn gnome
101. Goblynth: Normal goblin
102. Tregant: Grass/Water ent
103. Tregas: Grass/Water ent
104. Locarrier: Bug/Flying grasshopper
105. Mohlitia: Bug/Diamond grasshopper
106. Psyfowl: Psychic/Flying peacock
107. Psyphasia: Psychic/Flying peacock
108. Dinout: Ice/Poison gila monster
109. Rapturst: Ice/Poison gila monster
110. Torrex: Ice/Poison gila monster
111. Cranimallet: Water/Rock barracuda
112. Warsphyrna: Water/Rock hammerhead
113. Belloth: Grass/Fighting sloth bear
114. Berout: Grass/Fighting sloth bear
115. Bananan: Grass banana
116. Bananice: Grass/Ice banana split
117. Lathair: Normal/Ghost sponge fish
118. Baithe: Normal/Ghost sponge fish
119. Unihorn: Light unicorn
120. Legensus: Light/Flying pegasus
121. Spacely: Steel/Flying spaceship
122. Whirrling: Steel/Flying dreadnought
123. Pitanaga: Fire/Dragon pitahaya
124. Captaya: Fire/Dragon pitahaya
125. Pitahyrant: Fire/Dragon pitahaya
126. Snomad: Ice/Psychic snowman
127. Pupperoni: Normal weiner dog puppy
128. Ruffwurst: Normal/Ground weiner dog
129. Dognite: Normal/Fire weiner dog
130. Raindelion: Grass/Fairy dandelion
131. Dandeleo: Grass/Fairy dandelion
132. Gigalien: Ground/Fighting great galactic ghoul
133. Brix: Rock/Normal bricks
134. Chimbrix: Rock/Fire chimeny
135. Poltery: Rock/Ghost possesed pottery
136. Spirimid: Rock/Ghost pyramid
137. Cephalossol: Water/Poison giant squid/kraken
138. Bernamic: Dark black bear
139. Berectric: Dark/Electric black bear
140. Zomby: Ghost zombie
141. Infekded: Ghost zombie
142. Megalorca: Water orca whale
143. Totite: Grass/Ground totempole
144. Totegend: Grass/Ground totem pole
145. Geckorn: Diamond/Normal lizard
146. Lizlice: Diamond/Normal lizard
147. Cleavodo: Diamond/Normal Komodo dragon
148. Puppedo: Normal dalmation puppy
149. Dalmotion: Normal dalmation
150. Calfnit: Normal calf
151. Moonister: Normal/Fighting moose
152. Galaxang: Dragon/Ghost ghost horse
153. Mirrorror: Dark/Ghost haunted mirror
154. Helmure: Poison/Steel possessed helmet
155. Armile: Poison/Steel possessed armour
156. Knightveil: Poison/Steel possessed suit or armour
157. Clalynx: Normal lynx kitten
158. Lynlash: Normal lynx
159. Crocire: Water/Dragon crocodile
160. Dragloch: Water/Dragon Loch Ness monster
161. Kabloom: Grass/Ground tulip
162. Paralura: Diamond/Ghost asura
163. Diamura: Diamond/Ghost asura
164. Femingo: Water flamingo
165. Glamingo: Water/Psychic flamingo
166. Gekoe: Grass gecko
167. Figuana: Grass iguana
168. Capsyrn: Grass/Dragon wyvern
169. Wailyin: Water/Ghost- banshee
170. Mothamia: Bug/Psychic- female hercules moth
171. Venoom: Poison/Dragon- tapeworm
172. Howlark: Dark/Fighting~ Ozark howler
173. Aristocore: Diamond/Flying~ Manticore
174. Revelvet: Normal/Fairy~ Wolpertinger

 

[Deleted member]

Question:

Would you say the Zelda series is massively overrated? Y/N?

I don't mean to say the Zelda series is "bad" persay, because it's certainly not. In fact, I'd say there are no "bad" Zelda games, only mediocre ones (in reference to the DS ones, the spinoffs, and SS).

Reason I ask is cause the Zelda series is heralded by most gamers as "gaming's finest" with OoT getting tossed around as the greatest game ever made (alongside FFVII). Personally, I'd say neither of those is truly deserving of that title, purely from a game design standpoint, both are very flawed games, even for their time (I'd personally give it to Castlevania Symphony of the Night, or Super Metroid). Good games, but flawed nonetheless.

It's just, I recently played through most of the Zelda series back to back on my 3DS a few months ago, especially the big hitters like OoT, LttP, the Oracles, MM, Link's Awakening, Minish Cap, etc... and while they were all great games, with many highs and lows, and I enjoyed myself with them at many points, I also felt many were lacking in many areas in one way or another, and in many cases, upon reaching the final dungeon, I really didn't have much drive to really push toward the end. Normally I try to be honest with myself when playing games, and if I don't feel like pushing onward due to the game no longer being gripping, I don't try to force myself to finish out of a "sense of accomplishment" on the contrary, I believe it's the game's responsibility to keep me enthralled to the very end, and keep me wanting more, as I have played games that have done that to me.

I think the Zelda series has been massively influential on the industry, and it deserves a lot of credit for that, however, the games themselves... I really wouldn't rate them as highly as most people do tbh. Not after giving most of them a replay, and really getting a taste for them without any nostalgia goggles. I'd personally rate other series like Souls, or Metroid, or Castlevania as being much more deserving of the prestige given to the Zelda series. In fact, if you were to ask me to me a list of my top 10 favorite games, I'm not sure if I would have room to include a Zelda game in there, and if I did, it'd me Majora's Mask, the black sheep of the franchise. I'd say the Zelda series is very influential overall, and has a lot of untapped potential actually, but I can name at least a dozen games all much better designed than any Zelda game, and many other series which I'd say are overall better.

Your thoughts on this?

 

[Yomi's Biggest Fan]

How could anyone judge Pudding harshly

She is like. . . sweetness personified. She even lives surrounded by food.

Spoiler: One Piece spoilers

Maybe they are convinced she is one twisted evil ***** like her mother. When it's obvious that she's got no choice since a daughter should always listen to her, even when she's a freaking Yonkou

If she hated Lola for running way from Whole Cake Island, then Pudding is well aware of how pissed she would be if she said no to her face. Just what she plans on doing however is what piques my curiosity.

 

[FalKoopa]

Question:

Would you say the Zelda series is massively overrated? Y/N?

I don't mean to say the Zelda series is "bad" persay, because it's certainly not. In fact, I'd say there are no "bad" Zelda games, only mediocre ones (in reference to the DS ones, the spinoffs, and SS).

Reason I ask is cause the Zelda series is heralded by most gamers as "gaming's finest" with OoT getting tossed around as the greatest game ever made (alongside FFVII). Personally, I'd say neither of those is truly deserving of that title, purely from a game design standpoint, both are very flawed games, even for their time (I'd personally give it to Castlevania Symphony of the Night, or Super Metroid). Good games, but flawed nonetheless.

It's just, I recently played through most of the Zelda series back to back on my 3DS a few months ago, especially the big hitters like OoT, LttP, the Oracles, MM, Link's Awakening, Minish Cap, etc... and while they were all great games, with many highs and lows, and I enjoyed myself with them at many points, I also felt many were lacking in many areas in one way or another, and in many cases, upon reaching the final dungeon, I really didn't have much drive to really push toward the end. Normally I try to be honest with myself when playing games, and if I don't feel like pushing onward due to the game no longer being gripping, I don't try to force myself to finish out of a "sense of accomplishment" on the contrary, I believe it's the game's responsibility to keep me enthralled to the very end, and keep me wanting more, as I have played games that have done that to me.

I think the Zelda series has been massively influential on the industry, and it deserves a lot of credit for that, however, the games themselves... I really wouldn't rate them as highly as most people do tbh. Not after giving most of them a replay, and really getting a taste for them without any nostalgia goggles. I'd personally rate other series like Souls, or Metroid, or Castlevania as being much more deserving of the prestige given to the Zelda series. In fact, if you were to ask me to me a list of my top 10 favorite games, I'm not sure if I would have room to include a Zelda game in there, and if I did, it'd me Majora's Mask, the black sheep of the franchise. I'd say the Zelda series is very influential overall, and has a lot of untapped potential actually, but I can name at least a dozen games all much better designed than any Zelda game, and many other series which I'd say are overall better.

Your thoughts on this?

I think part of the series's fame comes from the fact they were revolutionary at the time they were released. Ocarina of Time, for example, provided an altogether different experience compared to anything on the market at time of its release. And it also had innovations that other games lacked (such as context sensitive buttons). Similarly, Majora's Mask had one hell of a story along with its Groundhog day loop mechanic, to the point that people still make theories and keep finding symbolism in it to this day.

I think the reason it has endured is also because the quality of the games has never really faltered much. Skyward Sword is often given a bad rap, but it's reception was still much more positive than, Other M, for example. There hasn't been a moment when fans would feel like the Zelda series is dead or doomed.

Whether the games are masterpieces or not really depends on where you're coming from. If you're just getting into the series, you're going to judge any perceived faults more harshly than someone who has been playing the series for years, and developed a fondness for the characters and the setting.

Personally, if I had to make a list of games that blew my mind when I played them, OoT and MM definitely have a spot there.

EDIT: To answer your question, no, I don't think it is "massively" overrated. Maybe a bit, and that can be chalked up to nostalgia.

 

[Professor Pumpkaboo]

Question:

Would you say the Zelda series is massively overrated? Y/N?

I don't mean to say the Zelda series is "bad" persay, because it's certainly not. In fact, I'd say there are no "bad" Zelda games, only mediocre ones (in reference to the DS ones, the spinoffs, and SS).

Reason I ask is cause the Zelda series is heralded by most gamers as "gaming's finest" with OoT getting tossed around as the greatest game ever made (alongside FFVII). Personally, I'd say neither of those is truly deserving of that title, purely from a game design standpoint, both are very flawed games, even for their time (I'd personally give it to Castlevania Symphony of the Night, or Super Metroid). Good games, but flawed nonetheless.

It's just, I recently played through most of the Zelda series back to back on my 3DS a few months ago, especially the big hitters like OoT, LttP, the Oracles, MM, Link's Awakening, Minish Cap, etc... and while they were all great games, with many highs and lows, and I enjoyed myself with them at many points, I also felt many were lacking in many areas in one way or another, and in many cases, upon reaching the final dungeon, I really didn't have much drive to really push toward the end. Normally I try to be honest with myself when playing games, and if I don't feel like pushing onward due to the game no longer being gripping, I don't try to force myself to finish out of a "sense of accomplishment" on the contrary, I believe it's the game's responsibility to keep me enthralled to the very end, and keep me wanting more, as I have played games that have done that to me.

I think the Zelda series has been massively influential on the industry, and it deserves a lot of credit for that, however, the games themselves... I really wouldn't rate them as highly as most people do tbh. Not after giving most of them a replay, and really getting a taste for them without any nostalgia goggles. I'd personally rate other series like Souls, or Metroid, or Castlevania as being much more deserving of the prestige given to the Zelda series. In fact, if you were to ask me to me a list of my top 10 favorite games, I'm not sure if I would have room to include a Zelda game in there, and if I did, it'd me Majora's Mask, the black sheep of the franchise. I'd say the Zelda series is very influential overall, and has a lot of untapped potential actually, but I can name at least a dozen games all much better designed than any Zelda game, and many other series which I'd say are overall better.

Your thoughts on this?

idk,the series itself isnt overrated but on one hand I wanna say Wind Waker is one of the ones that are overrated but on the other hand, I wanna say OoT and MM are the overrathed ones

 

[praline]

Question:

Would you say the Zelda series is massively overrated? Y/N?

I don't mean to say the Zelda series is "bad" persay, because it's certainly not. In fact, I'd say there are no "bad" Zelda games, only mediocre ones (in reference to the DS ones, the spinoffs, and SS).

Reason I ask is cause the Zelda series is heralded by most gamers as "gaming's finest" with OoT getting tossed around as the greatest game ever made (alongside FFVII). Personally, I'd say neither of those is truly deserving of that title, purely from a game design standpoint, both are very flawed games, even for their time (I'd personally give it to Castlevania Symphony of the Night, or Super Metroid). Good games, but flawed nonetheless.

It's just, I recently played through most of the Zelda series back to back on my 3DS a few months ago, especially the big hitters like OoT, LttP, the Oracles, MM, Link's Awakening, Minish Cap, etc... and while they were all great games, with many highs and lows, and I enjoyed myself with them at many points, I also felt many were lacking in many areas in one way or another, and in many cases, upon reaching the final dungeon, I really didn't have much drive to really push toward the end. Normally I try to be honest with myself when playing games, and if I don't feel like pushing onward due to the game no longer being gripping, I don't try to force myself to finish out of a "sense of accomplishment" on the contrary, I believe it's the game's responsibility to keep me enthralled to the very end, and keep me wanting more, as I have played games that have done that to me.

I think the Zelda series has been massively influential on the industry, and it deserves a lot of credit for that, however, the games themselves... I really wouldn't rate them as highly as most people do tbh. Not after giving most of them a replay, and really getting a taste for them without any nostalgia goggles. I'd personally rate other series like Souls, or Metroid, or Castlevania as being much more deserving of the prestige given to the Zelda series. In fact, if you were to ask me to me a list of my top 10 favorite games, I'm not sure if I would have room to include a Zelda game in there, and if I did, it'd me Majora's Mask, the black sheep of the franchise. I'd say the Zelda series is very influential overall, and has a lot of untapped potential actually, but I can name at least a dozen games all much better designed than any Zelda game, and many other series which I'd say are overall better.

Your thoughts on this?

Zelda got overrated once it hit 3d... ignoring Wind Waker and Link Between Worlds

 

[Ura]

Question:

Would you say the Zelda series is massively overrated? Y/N?

I don't mean to say the Zelda series is "bad" persay, because it's certainly not. In fact, I'd say there are no "bad" Zelda games, only mediocre ones (in reference to the DS ones, the spinoffs, and SS).

Reason I ask is cause the Zelda series is heralded by most gamers as "gaming's finest" with OoT getting tossed around as the greatest game ever made (alongside FFVII). Personally, I'd say neither of those is truly deserving of that title, purely from a game design standpoint, both are very flawed games, even for their time (I'd personally give it to Castlevania Symphony of the Night, or Super Metroid). Good games, but flawed nonetheless.

It's just, I recently played through most of the Zelda series back to back on my 3DS a few months ago, especially the big hitters like OoT, LttP, the Oracles, MM, Link's Awakening, Minish Cap, etc... and while they were all great games, with many highs and lows, and I enjoyed myself with them at many points, I also felt many were lacking in many areas in one way or another, and in many cases, upon reaching the final dungeon, I really didn't have much drive to really push toward the end. Normally I try to be honest with myself when playing games, and if I don't feel like pushing onward due to the game no longer being gripping, I don't try to force myself to finish out of a "sense of accomplishment" on the contrary, I believe it's the game's responsibility to keep me enthralled to the very end, and keep me wanting more, as I have played games that have done that to me.

I think the Zelda series has been massively influential on the industry, and it deserves a lot of credit for that, however, the games themselves... I really wouldn't rate them as highly as most people do tbh. Not after giving most of them a replay, and really getting a taste for them without any nostalgia goggles. I'd personally rate other series like Souls, or Metroid, or Castlevania as being much more deserving of the prestige given to the Zelda series. In fact, if you were to ask me to me a list of my top 10 favorite games, I'm not sure if I would have room to include a Zelda game in there, and if I did, it'd me Majora's Mask, the black sheep of the franchise. I'd say the Zelda series is very influential overall, and has a lot of untapped potential actually, but I can name at least a dozen games all much better designed than any Zelda game, and many other series which I'd say are overall better.

Your thoughts on this?

I don't see how Super Metroid is more worthy than OoT for "best game ever". The game never struck me as being great TBH.

That being said i'm not a fan of the Metroid series as a whole and the most i've ever gotten through playing this series was Zero Mission where I just lost interest around Norfair. That's absolutely not saying it's a bad series or anything because it has to be critically acclaimed and beloved by fans to be what it is today. Just did not click with me.

I should also mention that "best game ever" is a very subjective thing and I don't think any game can be objectively called the best game ever.

Zelda got overrated once it hit 3d... ignoring Wind Waker and Link Between Worlds

Nah, I disagree. Ocarina of Time does everything A Link to the Past did and then some. I guess ALTTP has more fluid gameplay and the dungeons in the game are a blast to play but OoT was a much more wholesome experience.

 

[Coricus]

Question:

Would you say the Zelda series is massively overrated? Y/N?

I don't mean to say the Zelda series is "bad" persay, because it's certainly not. In fact, I'd say there are no "bad" Zelda games, only mediocre ones (in reference to the DS ones, the spinoffs, and SS).

Reason I ask is cause the Zelda series is heralded by most gamers as "gaming's finest" with OoT getting tossed around as the greatest game ever made (alongside FFVII). Personally, I'd say neither of those is truly deserving of that title, purely from a game design standpoint, both are very flawed games, even for their time (I'd personally give it to Castlevania Symphony of the Night, or Super Metroid). Good games, but flawed nonetheless.

It's just, I recently played through most of the Zelda series back to back on my 3DS a few months ago, especially the big hitters like OoT, LttP, the Oracles, MM, Link's Awakening, Minish Cap, etc... and while they were all great games, with many highs and lows, and I enjoyed myself with them at many points, I also felt many were lacking in many areas in one way or another, and in many cases, upon reaching the final dungeon, I really didn't have much drive to really push toward the end. Normally I try to be honest with myself when playing games, and if I don't feel like pushing onward due to the game no longer being gripping, I don't try to force myself to finish out of a "sense of accomplishment" on the contrary, I believe it's the game's responsibility to keep me enthralled to the very end, and keep me wanting more, as I have played games that have done that to me.

I think the Zelda series has been massively influential on the industry, and it deserves a lot of credit for that, however, the games themselves... I really wouldn't rate them as highly as most people do tbh. Not after giving most of them a replay, and really getting a taste for them without any nostalgia goggles. I'd personally rate other series like Souls, or Metroid, or Castlevania as being much more deserving of the prestige given to the Zelda series. In fact, if you were to ask me to me a list of my top 10 favorite games, I'm not sure if I would have room to include a Zelda game in there, and if I did, it'd me Majora's Mask, the black sheep of the franchise. I'd say the Zelda series is very influential overall, and has a lot of untapped potential actually, but I can name at least a dozen games all much better designed than any Zelda game, and many other series which I'd say are overall better.

Your thoughts on this?

I find that it's more a matter of taste. Of the three games I've tried, the one I considered the least enjoyable and made the least progress in was the best treated. I would perhaps say that it's overrated, but more in the sense that it's fans largely refuse to play anything else and massively praise it to the exclusion of all else than under the assumption that it's quality leaves anything to be desired. To be honest, I'd say that Metroid falls under the same situation, except that the more narrow minded Metroid fans outright insult anything outside of their bubble instead of simply being blissfully unaware it exists like the more narrow minded Zelda fans.

I could probably find a dozen games I like better and remember more fondly than Zelda, but that doesn't speak to it's quality, just to my tastes. I simply find that different genres tempt me and hook me more.

That isn't to say I don't find flaws in this game or that game, but I could find such in even my very favorite games. Whether or not I can see something wrong doesn't have an influence, and if anything I'll have a hard time telling exactly what's wrong in a game that isn't holding my interest while one that is will have very specific flaws pop out.

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

I think WW may be a LITTLE bit overrated. It's still good, but I think people think a little more of it than it actually offers

 

[Professor Pumpkaboo]

Zelda got overrated once it hit 3d... ignoring Wind Waker and c

I need to play Link Between Worlds again.... I also need to play Wind Waker HD since Im out of class now

 

[A Distant Demon]

Cesaro and Sheamus winning makes me smile

Wind Waker is one of the ones that are overrated

Zelda got overrated ignoring Wind Waker

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[praline]

I need to play Link Between Worlds again.... I also need to play Wind Waker HD since Im out of class now

I need to try an beat Link Between Worlds hardmode.

 

[SegaNintendoUbisoft]

>tfw your Disney World trip is over.

 

[Ura]

TBH the only Zelda game I feel is significantly overrated is Majora's Mask because I remember back in the days pre-MM remake when a lot of MM fanboys kept on going about how their game was "so much better" than Ocarina of Time because "it's dark" or"muh NPC interaction" and all that jazz. Though to be fair a lot of people have started to realize how people have been overrating MM in recent times and it's been getting some flak as a result of that. Zelda cycle I guess.

I also think TP is quite overrated because there was nothing about that game that really wow'd me or anything.

 

[Coricus]

I honestly can't picture Wind Waker being overrated no matter what the actual quality of the game is after the amount of flames the artstyle caught. It might be easy to assume people eventually got over it, but there's some people still ranting about how the artstyle was the day Nintendo died to this day.

I think it looks cute. :/ Certainly more to my tastes than the gritty artstyles everyone else favors, although going into HD made it slip a bit into the Uncanny Valley. I keep hearing things like "Zelda is supposed to be a manly series!" and. . .it's a game with pig people that tell you to keep their secrets and land octopi that shoot rocks. Maybe you're picturing things that were never actually there.

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

TBH the only Zelda game I feel is significantly overrated is Majora's Mask because I remember back in the days pre-MM remake when a lot of MM fanboys kept on going about how their game was "so much better" than Ocarina of Time because "it's dark" or"muh NPC interaction" and all that jazz. Though to be fair a lot of people have started to realize how people have been overrating MM in recent times and it's been getting some flak as a result of that. Zelda cycle I guess.

I also think TP is quite overrated because there was nothing about that game that really wow'd me or anything.

I think the exact opposite

People always said MM was nothing more than an OoT clone, and more recently it's been seen in a better light of having deeper themes than first tought

 

[Deleted member]

I find that it's more a matter of taste. Of the three games I've tried, the one I considered the least enjoyable and made the least progress in was the best treated. I would perhaps say that it's overrated, but more in the sense that it's fans largely refuse to play anything else and massively praise it to the exclusion of all else than under the assumption that it's quality leaves anything to be desired. To be honest, I'd say that Metroid falls under the same situation, except that the more narrow minded Metroid fans outright insult anything outside of their bubble instead of simply being blissfully unaware it exists like the more narrow minded Zelda fans.

I could probably find a dozen games I like better and remember more fondly than Zelda, but that doesn't speak to it's quality, just to my tastes. I simply find that different genres tempt me and hook me more.

That isn't to say I don't find flaws in this game or that game, but I could find such in even my very favorite games. Whether or not I can see something wrong doesn't have an influence, and if anything I'll have a hard time telling exactly what's wrong in a game that isn't holding my interest while one that is will have very specific flaws pop out.

Yeah, but I'm not saying they're bad games.

I'm simply saying the series doesn't deserve to be heralded with such reverence.

I don't see how Super Metroid is more worthy than OoT for "best game ever:". The game never struck me as being great TBH.

That being said i'm not a fan of the Metroid series as a whole and the most i've ever gotten through playing this series was Zero Mission where I just lost interest around Norfair. That's absolutely not saying it's a bad series or anything because it has to be critically acclaimed and beloved by fans to be what it is today. Just did not click with me.

SM has brilliant level design in that it TEACHES you how to play the game without any tutorials, and has maze-like levels that loop back around on themselves perfectly, and stack up in difficulty just right to keep the player engaged. In order to appreciate SM, you have to like non-linear games, and pay a lot of attention to the minor details and level design. It's not a game you can speed through unless you know what you're doing.

I should also mention that "best game ever" is a very subjective thing and I don't think any game can be objectively called the best game ever.

There is a subjective side to it, but there are criteria for which to gague the quality and design of a game, and compare it to others. This is why game critics exist.

That's not to say you can't enjoy something with poor reviews, but it also doesn't mean that there aren't objective criteria.

Nah, I disagree. Ocarina of Time does everything A Link to the Past did and then some. I guess ALTTP has more fluid gameplay and the dungeons in the game are a blast to play but OoT was a much more wholesome experience.

Not at all.

LttP beats OoT in terms of dungeon design, and content. It's also less "hand holdy" than OoT. OoT often tells you where to go blatantly, thanks to Navi, wheras LttP is a lot more cryptic, forcing the player to think and figure out where to go next on their own.

Also, the first three dungeons in OoT are nothing short of garbage. The reason OoT imo doesn't rank that highly is cause of its slow start. The first three dungeons can all be beat in less than 2 hours. I remember they each took me about 15 min a piece in my most recent playthrough, and this is after 10 years since I last played OoT. Which then leaves you with 5 dungeons in OoT not counting the side dungeons. Now, the 5 main dungeons are all REALLY REALLY good, but they don't quite stack up to the ones in LttP tbh, and LttP still has more overall. Watch the Boss Keys series on YT to get a more thorough breakdown on this.

I think part of the series's fame comes from the fact they were revolutionary at the time they were released. Ocarina of Time, for example, provided an altogether different experience compared to anything on the market at time of its release. And it also had innovations that other games lacked (such as context sensitive buttons). Similarly, Majora's Mask had one hell of a story along with its Groundhog day loop mechanic, to the point that people still make theories and keep finding symbolism in it to this day.

I think the reason it has endured is also because the quality of the games has never really faltered much. Skyward Sword is often given a bad rap, but it's reception was still much more positive than, Other M, for example. There hasn't been a moment when fans would feel like the Zelda series is dead or doomed.

Whether the games are masterpieces or not really depends on where you're coming from. If you're just getting into the series, you're going to judge any perceived faults more harshly than someone who has been playing the series for years, and developed a fondness for the characters and the setting.

Personally, if I had to make a list of games that blew my mind when I played them, OoT and MM definitely have a spot there.

EDIT: To answer your question, no, I don't think it is "massively" overrated. Maybe a bit, and that can be chalked up to nostalgia.

Well, like I said. They're definitely groundbreaking games, and deserve a lot of credit. But compared to other games of modern and previous generations, it's hard to justify Zelda as "gaming's finest." And it's got little to do with the deterioration of the series in recent times. Even at its peak, stack up OoT, MM, LttP, any of them, to say Bloodborne, or Dark Souls, and it's not a contest. Both of those games are VASTLY better than Zelda, and the attention to detail far surpasses what you see in Zelda. If we go backwards, I already said Super Metroid and Symphony of the Night are much more deserving of the GOAT title, as they're simply better designed games in terms of level design, progression, combat, etc... OoT, can be very clumsy with its combat, and the puzzles are not too challenging, and oftentimes a bit dull. The level design is very simplistic compared to its predecesor, LttP, the jump to 3D had an impact on the level design in a rather negative way. And honestly, it has nothing to do with the limitations of 3D space, as FromSoft has shown us that Metroid-like level design is indeed possible in modern 3D titles, yet Nintendo has been unable to replicate the complexity of dungeon design found in Link's Awakening and LttP since then. And then you have games which are chock full of extra content and replayability like TWEWY, showing us what a perfectly polished game looks like. One in which all of the mechanics are carefully thought out and flow seamlessly.


Anyway, to everyone who answered this Question, what are your top 10 games?

These are mine:



At 11 I'd put Halo 3, and at 12 I'd put Majora's Mask. 13 would probably be Metroid Prime Trilogy, 14 Monster Hunter 4 Ultimate, and from there it's really hard to kinda pin things down, as too many titles crop up.

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

Yeah, but I'm not saying they're bad games.

I'm simply saying the series doesn't deserve to be heralded with such reverence.



SM has brilliant level design in that it TEACHES you how to play the game without any tutorials, and has maze-like levels that loop back around on themselves perfectly, and stack up in difficulty just right to keep the player engaged. In order to appreciate SM, you have to like non-linear games, and pay a lot of attention to the minor details and level design. It's not a game you can speed through unless you know what you're doing.


There is a subjective side to it, but there are criteria for which to gague the quality and design of a game, and compare it to others. This is why game critics exist.

That's not to say you can't enjoy something with poor reviews, but it also doesn't mean that there aren't objective criteria.


Not at all.

LttP beats OoT in terms of dungeon design, and content. It's also less "hand holdy" than OoT. OoT often tells you where to go blatantly, thanks to Navi, wheras LttP is a lot more cryptic, forcing the player to think and figure out where to go next on their own.

Also, the first three dungeons in OoT are nothing short of garbage. The reason OoT imo doesn't rank that highly is cause of its slow start. The first three dungeons can all be beat in less than 2 hours. I remember they each took me about 15 min a piece in my most recent playthrough, and this is after 10 years since I last played OoT. Which then leaves you with 5 dungeons in OoT not counting the side dungeons. Now, the 5 main dungeons are all REALLY REALLY good, but they don't quite stack up to the ones in LttP tbh, and LttP still has more overall. Watch the Boss Keys series on YT to get a more thorough breakdown on this.



Well, like I said. They're definitely groundbreaking games, and deserve a lot of credit. But compared to other games of modern and previous generations, it's hard to justify Zelda as "gaming's finest." And it's got little to do with the deterioration of the series in recent times. Even at its peak, stack up OoT, MM, LttP, any of them, to say Bloodborne, or Dark Souls, and it's not a contest. Both of those games are VASTLY better than Zelda, and the attention to detail far surpasses what you see in Zelda. If we go backwards, I already said Super Metroid and Symphony of the Night are much more deserving of the GOAT title, as they're simply better designed games in terms of level design, progression, combat, etc... OoT, can be very clumsy with its combat, and the puzzles are not too challenging, and oftentimes a bit dull. The level design is very simplistic compared to its predecesor, LttP, the jump to 3D had an impact on the level design in a rather negative way. And honestly, it has nothing to do with the limitations of 3D space, as FromSoft has shown us that Metroid-like level design is indeed possible in modern 3D titles, yet Nintendo has been unable to replicate the complexity of dungeon design found in Link's Awakening and LttP since then. And then you have games which are chock full of extra content and replayability like TWEWY, showing us what a perfectly polished game looks like. One in which all of the mechanics are carefully thought out and flow seamlessly.


Anyway, to everyone who answered this Question, what are your top 10 games?

These are mine:

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At 11 I'd put Halo 3, and at 12 I'd put Majora's Mask. 13 would probably be Metroid Prime Trilogy, 14 Monster Hunter 4 Ultimate, and from there it's really hard to kinda pin things down, as too many titles crop up.

Red Alert 2 was definitely the pinnacle of the series

 

[praline]

I honestly can't picture Wind Waker being overrated no matter what the actual quality of the game is after the amount of flames the artstyle caught. It might be easy to assume people eventually got over it, but there's some people still ranting about how the artstyle was the day Nintendo died to this day.

I think it looks cute. :/ Certainly more to my tastes than the gritty artstyles everyone else favors, although going into HD made it slip a bit into the Uncanny Valley. I keep hearing things like "Zelda is supposed to be a manly series!" and. . .it's a game with pig people that tell you to keep their secrets and land octopi that shoot rocks. Maybe you're picturing things that were never actually there.

Zelda shouldn't have a gritty art style it literally never fits. Even Twilight Princess didn't need the gritty look.

 

[CyberHyperPhoenix]

Off topic but...

I'm not that much of a shipping guy, but Prompto x Cindy gives me life.

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

Zelda shouldn't have a gritty art style it literally never fits. Even Twilight Princess didn't need the gritty look.

I don't really think the chibi weaby thing fit either

 

[praline]

Naming my top 10 games is literally impossible.

 

[Professor Pumpkaboo]

Anyway, to everyone who answered this Question, what are your top 10 games?

1. Animal Crossing(s)
2. Billy Hatcher
3. Super Mario sunshine
4. Danganronpa
5. Bravely Default
6. Bravely Second
7. Wind Waker
8. Link between Worlds
9. Luigis Mansion
10. Luigis Mansion Dark Moon

Naming my top 10 games is literally impossible.

Same, I just picked the ones I think about the most

 

[praline]

Hmm maybe I'll try
Pokemon Black and White
Pokemon Sun and Moon
Chrono Trigger
Final Fantasy 4
Dragon Quest 8.
Papaer Mario Thousaand Year Door

Yeah I'm stumped.