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[Pazzo.]

There's a special kind of hell awaiting Plesioth's hip check.

I remember one guy imagining a Deviant version called the "Lucent Plesioth", which would get into the hip check pose, an after image would appear where it had done the attack, then teleport to the image location, hitting everyone along the way.

 

[Professor Pumpkaboo]

Spoiler

Welp.... Tell me when you get the urgent after HR 4. You might need me. A LOT of people needed help with it from what I've played online.

Omg no way

If it what I think it is, is the hitbox still just as bad?

 

[A Distant Demon]

Man I dont even like Advance Wars but people are acting like it's some niche japan only game that everyone hated.


I mean yeah it's fine to not like it but to act like it's a bad series or never had fans/doesn't have fans would be silly.

That isn't to say I have high hopes for it's success with a sequel/reboot in the current market but that's another story.

 

[Ura]

Read again.
It's literally an RTS mechanics wise confined by the fact it's a poorly made TBS. Now they can either make it an RTS so the RTS elements actually work or they look at how Civilization is able to pull it off and be an acclaimed series. There's not much of a fanbase to alienate either.



And those "extras" are associated with RTS more often than not and are better used in such an environment.

Yeah, and having RTS-like elements ≠ AW being an RTS game or even remotely similar to that. It's still TBS whether you like the game or not.

And yes there is one. AW's fanbase is about the same fanbase FE was pre-Awakening. Please put your Haterade down.

Man I dont even like Advance Wars but people are acting like it's some niche japan only game that everyone hated.


I mean yeah it's fine to not like it but to act like it's a bad series or never had fans/doesn't have fans would be silly.

That isn't to say I have high hopes for it's success with a sequel/reboot in the current market but that's another story.

I don't even know where people get these sentiments anyways. I've never seen any hate for the series outside a few users on this site because everywhere else I go is positive. It's hard to imagine now but back in the day AW was just as popular as FE outside Japan. Honestly some people try to make this series out like it's Captain Rainbow or something.

We can agree to disagree but I look at the situation with the Switch and I can see a huge potential for a return as big or even bigger than FE for reason I mentioned before. I don't even care if they waifu-ized the game as long as it's not too over the top and maybe even a marriage system where CO's can marry to CO's from other nations. Japan is all about interpersonal relationships and all so that outta make it sell better there along with waifu's that they love so much.

 

[Ivander]

It's not all about size, it's about his proportions and being monster-like in general, or such is the argument in general once size alone started being the problem.

I don't even know I'd argue about size in a series with Sentinel.(Then again length might be much more of a problem in this case.) Not to mention that I'm not saying myself that it's impossible. In fact there was a character Hauzer that worked okay(Warzard/Capcom Fighting Evolution.), which a Deviljho hypothetically could have a similar moveset.(Size isn't even a issue as you mentioned because even bigger monsters can appeared on the smaller side, so it can easily just pass as a small crown one. It also helps that the controls keep on getting more and more simplified in MvC so far... Meaning less normals you even need to worry about.) I've played every main series game, you know.

I think it'd depend on the monster. With something like Rathalos, it'd definitely have issues due to proportions, as it doesn't have any frontal limbs and has wings for hands. For something with frontal limbs, like Tigrex, Kushala or Gore, they'd probably be more easy to do proportions for due to having frontal limbs, although Gore does also use his wings as a second set of limbs during his Rage mode.
Zinogre and Brachydios would be the easiest to do proportions for, as both are definitely close-combat fighters and don't have the wings to get in their way. Heck, Brachydios is a pugilist/Boxer Monster. It has a fighting stance, it punches compared to it's other Brute Wyvern kin. Also, it jumps high, it's fast and it has explosions and has an exploding stream of death attack. It's practically made for a game like the Versus games, with their fast punching, high jumping and exploding special attacks.

 

[N3ON]

Advance Wars is good fun that needs to come back. It did pretty well in NA so its longtime absence, much like Starfy's, is peculiar. And it would probably fit decently well with the concept of Switch. I guess in the face of FE's boom there's less room for its pseudo-sister series. It also is one of the four remaining Nintendo series I contend should have playable representation in Smash (along with Splatoon, GS, and RH).

I'm sure IS has ideas for a new one kicking around, and I'm sure one day the series will come back, the question is just when.

 

[Kurri ★]

Read again.
It's literally an RTS mechanics wise confined by the fact it's a poorly made TBS. Now they can either make it an RTS so the RTS elements actually work or they look at how Civilization is able to pull it off and be an acclaimed series. There's not much of a fanbase to alienate either.



And those "extras" are associated with RTS more often than not and are better used in such an environment.

Being heavily associated still doesn't mean they're what makes a real time strategy. They're just ideas that work really well for RTS.

Health bars, motions, flat confined stages are heavily associated with fighting games, and yet Smash Bros does away with that and it's still a fighting game.

 

[Hat N' Clogs]

I heard AW is a pretty fun series, but I've never gotten into it I might someday, but other games are higher on my owning priority list.

 

[Deleted member]

Omg no way

If it what I think it is, is the hitbox still just as bad?

Nah, the hitbox isn't nearly as broken but it still sort of iffy, just don't plan on narrowly avoiding the hipcheck, it's deadly and the hitbox can still be broken. Especially considering the armor people still have at that point tends to be very weak in defense unless you have early high rank armor maxed out as much as possible like I did, that's how I made it by with not much issue.

It's not as difficult as Mitzusune or Seltas Queen IMO, but it is a pretty big jump from the monsters you hunt in HR4 which are mostly weak dromes such as the Maccau. Also, most people tend to find it hard on a frustrating hard because they overestimate how hard it really is, I made that mistake when I first hunted it in 3U. Because when you fear the hit boxes it stresses you out, you lose focus, and then it actually becomes extremely hard. But if you stay focused you shouldn't really have that many problems with it, it's pretty memorable, just be wary of when it could hipcheck or tail swipe you, those can be unpredictable at times and are its most deadly moves.

 

[Ura]

I heard AW is a pretty fun series, but I've never gotten into it I might someday, but other games are higher on my owning priority list.

You should watch some gameplay footage on Youtube and see if it's right for you.

Though then again I guess you won't know for sure unless you play it. I recall way back in the day and not thinking much of the game until I actually played and fell in love with the series.

Advance Wars is good fun that needs to come back. It did pretty well in NA so its longtime absence, much like Starfy's, is peculiar. And it would probably fit decently well with the concept of Switch. I guess in the face of FE's boom there's less room for its pseudo-sister series. It also is one of the four remaining Nintendo series I contend should have playable representation in Smash (along with Splatoon, GS, and RH).

I'm sure IS has ideas for a new one kicking around, and I'm sure one day the series will come back, the question is just when.

I'd argue Advance Wars/Wars is the 2nd biggest Nintendo series without representation in Smash Bros only behind Splatoon. Even more so than Golden Sun and Rhythm Heaven.

 

[AwesomeAussie27]

In a perfect world, both Fire Emblem and Advance Wars can coexist with each other to this day.

Oh wait, I don't want to break a certain "rule". Well ****, I've already did it.

 

[Chrono.]

In a perfect world, both Fire Emblem and Advance Wars can coexist with each other to this day.

Oh wait, I don't want to break a certain "rule". Well ****, I've already did it.

So what you're saying is...

FE X AW crossover game.

 

[Professor Pumpkaboo]

All this talk is making me want to listen to Fates ost again

*blasts Road Taken*

 

[Hat N' Clogs]

In a perfect world, both Fire Emblem and Advance Wars can coexist with each other to this day.

Why are these two franchises at odds, out of curiosity?

 

[A Distant Demon]

So what you're saying is...

FE X AW crossover game.

Great idea until a Lord challenges a literal tank instead of a figurative one.

No Speed growth can outrun 5 tanks firing at once.


I would feel even worse for the fliers though. Guns a plenty and "anti-air" units. RIP

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

Why are these two franchises at odds, out of curiosity?

Same reason F-Zero and Mario Kart are at odds

 

[Ura]

FE X AW crossover game.

I actually brought that up as a way to re-introduce AW to newer players who might not be familiar with the series. Mixing gameplay elements from both series would be really cool.

Imagine Marth using a CO Power and Andy fighting with an axe.

 

[Chrono.]

Dragon Ball Super is good actually.

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— RBPStix 🇵🇸 (@BeerStix) December 4, 2016

 

[Schnee117]

And yes there is one. AW's fanbase is about the same fanbase FE was pre-Awakening. Please put your Haterade down.

So AW's fan base is not of a size where alienating some fans would actually affect anything should a game do an Awakening then. Thanks for agreeing.

 

[Deleted member]

So what you're saying is...

FE X AW crossover game.

That reminds me, I remember on the SSB4 Funny Pictures Thread, there was a comic where Lucina and co. traveled back in time to warn and aid Chrom, and then their descendants from Advance Wars came to aid Chrom and Lucina.

 

[AwesomeAussie27]

Why are these two franchises at odds, out of curiosity?

Not really sure myself.

I guess it's that AW was put on hiatus after its latest game four years before Awakening came out, and we know that Intelligent Systems was keen on putting the series to an end if it didn't sell more than previous titles (Still a big shame the Telius saga bombed in some parts of the world).

So I can't blame Wars fans for wanting them to do the same for their favorite series. At least it has a slightly better chance of reviving with just the right move compared to say Chibi Robo (R.I.P.).

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

I think they should make advanced wars a mixture between FE and like RTS games but turn based. With Base Building mechanics and the ability to produce armies from structures. Resource gathering and the likes

 

[Ura]

Same reason F-Zero and Mario Kart are at odds

I don't necessarily believe AW and FE are at odds. Both series can co-exist fine and I would absolutely love that as fans of both series. I just think IS is still down about the way Dual Strike performed and are scared that a new AW might not click with the Japanese audience or that the recent success of FE has made them shift towards that series until they find a new idea for AW that will launch it to the same heights as FE.

Also don't believe F-Zero and Mario Kart are at odds as well given F-Zero's absence has to do with it's sales and Miyamoto's comments about needing to find a way to innovate the series.

 

[Hat N' Clogs]

I didn't even know that Mario Kart fans and F-Zero fans had a rivalry That's news to me.

Speaking of which, I could go for a good round of Double Dash right now...I need something as a pick me up.

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

I don't necessarily believe AW and FE are at odds. Both series can co-exist fine and I would absolutely love that as fans of both series. I just think IS is still down about the way Dual Strike performed and are scared that a new AW might not click with the Japanese audience or that the recent success of FE has made them shift towards that series until they find a new idea for AW that will launch it to the same heights as FE.

Also don't believe F-Zero and Mario Kart are at odds as well given F-Zero's absence has to do with it's sales and Miyamoto's comments about needing to find a way to innovate the series.

They don't have a lot of intensive to innovate F-Zero when Mario Kart sells more by name recognition alone. Any innovations they think of probably have first priority into the Mario Kart franchise

 

[Ura]

So AW's fan base is not of a size where alienating some fans would actually affect anything should a game do an Awakening then. Thanks for agreeing.

Well your right about it being a smaller portion of fans being upset but still. I see a lot of FE fans that are still pretty pissed about the series direction with Awakening.

They don't have a lot of intensive to innovate F-Zero when Mario Kart sells more by name recognition alone. Any innovations they think of probably have first priority into the Mario Kart franchise

That's never confirmed and I don't see why that should be the reason for F-Zero's absence. Both games have vastly different playstyles and have next to nothing in common other than being racing games.

 

[Champ Gold]

Kazunoko got blown up hard.

It's hard to do it without Yun, huh?

 

[Deleted member]

I didn't even know that Mario Kart fans and F-Zero fans had a rivalry That's news to me.

Speaking of which, I could go for a good round of Double Dash right now...I need something as a pick me up.

I once knew an F-Zero fan on another forum that would much rather have Mario Kart be the series in limbo.

 

[Professor Pumpkaboo]

I didn't even know that Mario Kart fans and F-Zero fans had a rivalry That's news to me.

Speaking of which, I could go for a good round of Double Dash right now...I need something as a pick me up.

Im strssing over finals right now, I could do for some 200cc on Baby park

 

[AwesomeAussie27]

Also don't believe F-Zero and Mario Kart are at odds as well given F-Zero's absence has to do with it's sales and Miyamoto's comments about needing to find a way to innovate the series.

I don't think F-Zero necessarily need a gimmick to really warrant a new game.

But sadly, it's one of those things Miyamoto feel is necessary for most Nintendo games today. Even having an overworld with your racer interacting with citizens would be good enough.

 

[wedl!!]

Kazunoko got blown up hard.

It's hard to do it without Yun, huh?

Chun just manhandles Cammy.

And they're buffing Chun LOL

 

[Ura]

I don't think F-Zero necessarily need a gimmick to really warrant a new game.

But sadly, it's one of those things Miyamoto feel is necessary for most Nintendo games today. Even having an overworld with your racer interacting with citizens would be good enough.

That's what happened with Star Fox and look what happened to that series lol.

It'll be another decade until we see Star Fox again.

 

[Chrono.]

So here's something funny about Mario Maker 3DS.

" if you’re in a household with multiple 3DS systems and only one copy of Super Mario Maker, using it on another system will prompt you to completely reset everything back to zero, reinstall the extra data, and erase all saved progress."

This game really makes itself more worthless the more I hear about it.

 

[Schnee117]

Well your right about it being a smaller portion of fans being upset but still. I see a lot of FE fans that are still pretty pissed about the series direction with Awakening.

And they're a minority. Fates did better than Awakening so evidently more people preferred the newcomer friendly approach.

I don't think F-Zero necessarily need a gimmick to really warrant a new game.

But sadly, it's one of those things Miyamoto feel is necessary for most Nintendo games today. Even having an overworld with your racer interacting with citizens would be good enough.

F-Zero Horizon.
Take Forza Horizon's stuff and F-Zero it.
Done.

 

[Hat N' Clogs]

Im strssing over finals right now, I could do for some 200cc on Baby park

My favorite stage on that game is probably DK Mountain. I have a ton of fond memories of it. DD has a solid track design record in general, really.

 

[Ura]

And they're a minority. Fates did better than Awakening so evidently more people preferred the newcomer friendly approach.

Well even then I doubt AW would even do well as an RTS nor would IS even want the series to become like that.

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

I don't think F-Zero necessarily need a gimmick to really warrant a new game.

But sadly, it's one of those things Miyamoto feel is necessary for most Nintendo games today. Even having an overworld with your racer interacting with citizens would be good enough.

The game also has a highly difficult story/arcade mode. Being a futuristic game is nice, don't get me wrong, but it doesn't much innovate beyond that either. It has one "attack move", and bar the character endings, the characters aren't as interesting as they could be. It's a weird series like that.

The thing is, racing games without items tend to not go as well unless they're actually based upon Nascar or real life vehicles. Which is sad, because there's a lot of fun you can have with cool worlds in racing games. The issue clearly is people want new gameplay too much, which means that having a great world/story/lore doesn't cut it anymore. Which is sad. :/

 

[Professor Pumpkaboo]

My favorite stage on that game is probably DK Mountain. I have a ton of fond memories of it. DD has a solid track design record in general, really.

I like wild woods and the Animal Crossing tracks a lot and by a lot I mean A LOT

 

[wedl!!]

Nuckledu > Ricki 3-1 Grand Finals.

RIP Mika.

 

[MF Viewtiful]

Knuckle Du wins CapCup!