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[praline]

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Guzzlord is in both versions, you are confusing it with Buzzwole who is Sun exclusive

I think he's thinking of

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celesteela and Kartana

 

[Deleted member]

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Guzzlord is in both versions, you are confusing it with Buzzwole who is Sun exclusive

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[Nah, I'm not thinking of Buzzhole, I'm thinking of the huge and heavy pillar-like UB. I never came across that.

Edit: So Celesteel and Kartana are the counteeparts that I'm thinking of? That makes sense actually, was about to say, otherwise Moon would have more UBs total in the total amount you catch.

 

[Guybrush20X6]

That's actually what I was going for lol
Best form is Pom Pom due to its great defensive typing and it also covers Lilligant's Flying weakness
Personal pick would be Baile and it can cover Steel types which would normally wall the two
Also, Sensu gets two immunities and Fake Out immunity is great to have
Lol Pa'u lol

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Oh, so it's where Guzzlord shows up later
I got two of the cells, will come back tomorrow for the night one

Baile would also work well with a Lilligant with Clorophyl or Leaf Guard and Sunny Day but I'm running one with Own Tempo.

 

[Professor Pumpkaboo]

Ey I see people on my street are putting up christmas lights

 

[Aurane]

I thought of a battle strategy but I'm not sure if it's competitivly viable.

Basically, double battle Lilligant and Oricorio. Near all of Lilligant's moves are dance attacks so Oricorio can copy them and they both get stronger.

Do you think this will work and what forme of Oricorrio would be the best?

I asked one of my IRL friends, who played Doubles more then I have, and he gave me this setup. Instead of using Lilligant though, he uses Ribombee. He calls it the "Bird and Bee" combo.

Oricorio-Sensu@Leftovers
Ability: Dancer
EVs: 252 HP, 252 SpA, 4 Speed
Modest Nature
RevelationDance/Hurricane/Roost/HP Fire
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Ribombee@Focus Sash
Ability: Sweet Veil
EVs: 252 HP, 4 SpA, 252 Speed
Timid Nature
Pollen Puff/Moon Blast/Quiver Dance/Speed Swap

I can't really explain the effectiveness of this set. I'll have to try it myself. But this is all I got regarding this Oricorio thing.

 

[Z25]

So I looked at the initial trailer for Sun and Moon.

The concept art on the left side doesn't appear at all in game and the hotel is slightly redesigned. The late is sensical, but the former is interesting to consider if Stars is right.

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

So I looked at the initial trailer for Sun and Moon.
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The concept art on the left side doesn't appear at all in game and the hotel is slightly redesigned. The late is sensical, but the former is interesting to consider if Stars is right.

I also don't see any Blastoise on top of Fire Trucks in the game.

They changed or didn't use a bunch of the concept art from that trailer

 

[praline]

I'd Like to have been there when they though up

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Buzzwole and Phermosa. Like someone was like "we need a ****ing ripped as hell mosquito and a sexy cockroach" it's just ridiculous.

 

[Swamp Sensei]

When did I say that the left couldn't do the same? People who make up and exaggerate how bad Hillary is are just as bad and fear mongering as people that do it for Trump.

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So you have Sun or Moon? If moon it's not Guzzlord, but rather the other huge UB I forget the name of, if I remember correctly.

I wasn't disagreeing with you.

I was just saying I was reminded of both. Hence the horseshoe comment.

 

[Aetheri]

So I looked at the initial trailer for Sun and Moon.
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The concept art on the left side doesn't appear at all in game and the hotel is slightly redesigned. The late is sensical, but the former is interesting to consider if Stars is right.

Not everything that has concept art is taken to the final product...some things get cut out for one reason or another or gets changed...

 

[ChikoLad]

Since I tend to be known as the "Sonic Unleashed lad" around here, and I just feel like posting about this somewhere because I find it super exciting, I figured I'd put this here.

I don't know the details on how, but someone managed to get a hold of pre-release builds of a bunch of Sonic games from around the 2008-2012 era of Sonic games. Included in the batch is a build of Sonic Unleashed (Xbox 360) that not only has a bunch of unused/beta elements (and is split across two disks), but it also has a debug mode, so naturally it seems to be garnering the most interest in the Sonic Research community since it could provide a lot of interesting insight into how the game works.

The Sonic Retro thread for it is here:
http://forums.sonicretro.org/index.php?showtopic=36209&st=0

And here's a few screenshots:

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Beta World Map screen

A stage select screen that can be found in the beta.

The beta version of Savannah Citadel Night that was seen in early trailers for the game (and was later retooled into a DLC stage for the retail game). The Werehog's UI also matches how it was in early promotional screenshots for the game. You can also see an untextured object beside Sonic.

On the results screen for levels, there is a "Replay" function that allows you to replay a level once you finish it. This for some reason wasn't in the final game, but was later incorporated into Sonic Generations.

Spawning Goal Rings to cheese boss fights.

 

[Professor Pumpkaboo]

So I looked at the initial trailer for Sun and Moon.
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The concept art on the left side doesn't appear at all in game and the hotel is slightly redesigned. The late is sensical, but the former is interesting to consider if Stars is right.

Looks like stuff that either got take out of the final game or was changed

 

[praline]

Looks like stuff that either got take out of the final game or was changed

Or stuff in Stars.

 

[Z25]

I also don't see any Blastoise on top of Fire Trucks in the game.

They changed or didn't use a bunch of the concept art from that trailer

I noticed that as well.The lack of Blastoise surprised me. In fact, it's not even in the dex.
A lot changed or the rumor could be true.

Not everything that has concept art is taken to the final product...some things get cut out for one reason or another or gets changed...

Fair point, but I thought I'd mention it as that's the big point of the stars rumor. It makes sense though looking at the Concept art.

The motels were pretty changed, and the above is worth considering. The dex even got rewrote then. I just found it something neat and worth bringing up. If it's true, then that really is clever that they showed Stars so stealthy. It makes sense to because at the point of it's announcement, Sun and Moon definitely had major work done at the time, so showing concept was odd.

Could mean nothing though.

 

[Professor Pumpkaboo]

Or stuff in Stars.

Eh, when I see nintendo say something about the game existing is when I acknowledge the rumors

 

[praline]

Eh, when I see nintendo say something about the game existing is when I acknowledge the rumors

That's fair.

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

If Stars is real, I wouldn't be surprised if some scrapped concepts got reused. Some scrapped Pokemon were apparently remade into a normal one later. I can't remember which ones when I saw them on Bulbapedia were fully reused later.

That said, some of the plans for Galaxy was used in Galaxy 2, as well as the previously noted Rush Drill finally seeing use in Marvel VS Capcom.

 

[Coricus]

So I looked at the initial trailer for Sun and Moon.
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The concept art on the left side doesn't appear at all in game and the hotel is slightly redesigned. The late is sensical, but the former is interesting to consider if Stars is right.

I noticed the hotel yesterday.

Most of it's design details are aesthetic/spoiler hiding since it lacks the big banners of two Alolan Pokemon that would obviously be spoilers at the time and two of the three Pokemon there that aren't on the official one are on the Alola Dex, but Spheal is interesting because it's not on the current Alolan Dex. . .

The upper two concept arts appear to be things that are already in the game but with details like the billboards and the cars missing for example. The lower two building ones I can't quite make out, though. . .

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

Anyone happen to have a Galvanize Geodude they can trade?

My best bet seems to be getting lucky from wonder trade

 

[CyberHyperPhoenix]

It's happening.

There was a problem fetching the tweet

Definitely didn't see this coming

 

[Cutie Gwen]

I just found out I have a sand stream Gigalith. I'm less pissed at the Carbink which I gave up on after 20 minutes and injuring myself on a ****ing hoover

 

[Deleted member]

Baile would also work well with a Lilligant with Clorophyl or Leaf Guard and Sunny Day but I'm running one with Own Tempo.

There's not much reason to NOT use Own Tempo since it allows Lilligant to spam a 120 STAB move

So I looked at the initial trailer for Sun and Moon.
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The concept art on the left side doesn't appear at all in game and the hotel is slightly redesigned. The late is sensical, but the former is interesting to consider if Stars is right.

That's just early concept art of the motels
Really guys, this is becoming the next Hoenn confirmed

 

[Z25]

There's not much reason to NOT use Own Tempo since it allows Lilligant to spam a 120 STAB move

That's just early concept art of the motels
Really guys, this is becoming the next Hoenn confirmed

Oh I still doubt a 3rd game so early. Especially since remakes come first. But I can entertain the idea since the sources are somewhat solid.

 

[Professor Pumpkaboo]

Anyone happen to have a Galvanize Geodude they can trade?

My best bet seems to be getting lucky from wonder trade

I havent touched WT is such a log time. Ive been getting Wingulls so much

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

That's just early concept art of the motels
Really guys, this is becoming the next Hoenn confirmed

XY did give legit hints here and there to ORAS. So that's not a fair comparison.

It's fun to speculate ideas for what Stars(if we believe it to be real) could have, though, including using old concept arts.

Although I'm not getting a vibe that anyone thinks this is a hint towards Stars at all, just that Stars could old scrapped ideas(if the game is real, anyway). Different arguments altogether.

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

I havent touched WT is such a log time. Ive been getting Wingulls so much

It's helping me fill my pokedex by giving me pokemon that suck so much I wouldn't catch them myself

Also, people using UB Balls on normal pokemon to bring your hopes up and destroy them with a ratatta

 

[praline]

My friend is grilling me cause I'm not playing Pokemon..

 

[Professor Pumpkaboo]

My friend is grilling me cause I'm not playing Pokemon..

Has this friend even made to to the E4 yet?

 

[Lord Dio]

This is High Priestess. Midler, the Stand Master, didn't even have a ****ing design before the fighting game. Capcom got her to work in a fighting game
YET WHERE ARE MY GODDAMN FOO FIGHTERS AND HOT PANTS?

I know who midler is, I finished SC XD.
They literally gave her a design because High Priestess before it was a giant rock formation seems like something pretty easy to do. Why would she not be able to be in a fighting game?

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

For some reason I'm getting NOTHING but Japanese Abras. Even from people that aren't Japanese

 

[Coricus]

XY did give legit hints here and there to ORAS. So that's not a fair comparison.

It's fun to speculate ideas for what Stars(if we believe it to be real) could have, though, including using old concept arts.

Although I'm not getting a vibe that anyone thinks this is a hint towards Stars at all, just that Stars could old scrapped ideas(if the game is real, anyway). Different arguments altogether.

You know. . .it's funny, but XY gave some hints about Sun and Moon as well.

I'm looking for things that could be in Stars because it's fun to see if anything ends up being important later on, but I wonder if there's any secret hints about the next fully new region lying around.

Or if there isn't but Stars turns out to definitely be a thing, if Stars will add such hints.

I will say that I think there's more evidence for Stars than just leaks from already pretty reliable sources, both in the playable portion of the game and in the guts of it, hence why I'm leaning a bit more strongly towards it existing than most. Granted XY had it's fair share of scrapped features visible both via play and in the code as well, but in combination with the leaks the things I'm seeing here are a bit. . .odder. Things that are conspicuous for their absence rather than their presence. It makes speculating a bit more fun.

 

[praline]

Has this friend even made to to the E4 yet?

Yes he's done everything and has caught almost everything. He only has like 4 trade evolutions left before he has everything that is catchable in game.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

I know who midler is, I finished SC XD.
They literally gave her a design because High Priestess before it was a giant rock formation seems like something pretty easy to do. Why would she not be able to be in a fighting game?

My point is
High Priestess got in a fighting game
Abbachio, Foo Fighters and Hot Pants didn't

 

[Volga]

Foo Fighters and Hot Pants didn't

This is a crime.

 

[praline]

Oh I still doubt a 3rd game so early. Especially since remakes come first. But I can entertain the idea since the sources are somewhat solid.

But the last 2 gens ruined that.

 

[Professor Pumpkaboo]

Yes he's done everything and has caught almost everything. He only has like 4 trade evolutions left before he has everything that is catchable in game.

So if he has done nearly everything, why he grillin you for not playin? lol

 

[Deleted member]

So glad I got Guilty Gear to play now... Video sums things up about right, lol.

 

[praline]

So if he has done nearly everything, why he grillin you for not playin? lol

I think he's just screwing with me. It's hard to tell on texts but that is how he talks. He likes to screw with me sometimes I don't get him.

 

[Deleted member]

Think I've gotten the right set for my Oricorio:
Oricorio (F) @ Leftovers
Ability: Dancer
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpA
Rash Nature
- Hurricane
- Revelation Dance
- Protect
- Roost

Paired with a Lilligant I'm still not sure what set is going to use but probably this:
Lilligant @ Sitrus Berry
Ability: Own Tempo
EVs: 252 HP / 252 SpA / 4 SpD
Modest Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Petal Dance
- Quiver Dance
- Leech Seed
- Synthesis

Lilligant doesn't have the most amazing of type coverages so this will do
Still thinking on the other members and I think I'm gonna scrap Ribombee

 

[Swamp Sensei]

So glad I got Guilty Gear to play now... Video sums things up about right, lol.

Same guy did the opposite video too.

Both are pretty funny.