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[Pazzo.]

Well, it's settled.

Most of us either are unreasonably lonely or have an inferiority complex!

 

[Professor Pumpkaboo]

Well, it's settled.

Most of us either are unreasonably lonely or have an inferiority complex!

Or Both~
If I didnt get railed on so much, things would change

 

[Deleted member]

https://www.gamnesia.com/news/ninte...re-are-no-gyms-or-hms-in-pokemon-sun-and-moon

That means, no more HM-slaves ! \o/
(I still hope though Surf and Fly are still there as TMs, as they were the only 2 worth HMs in battle.)

Also no more gyms, that will add a significant amount of novelty in the adventure.
Though that also means we'll never see a Gym Leader dedicated to the Dark type...

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

https://www.gamnesia.com/news/ninte...re-are-no-gyms-or-hms-in-pokemon-sun-and-moon

That means, no more HM-slaves ! \o/
(I still hope though Surf and Fly are still there as TMs, as they were the only 2 worth HMs in battle.)

Also no more gyms, that will add a significant amount of novelty in the adventure.
Though that also means we'll never see a Gym Leader dedicated to the Dark type...

No HM's suddenly makes Bidoof useless

 

[Deleted member]

Also no more gyms, that will add a significant amount of novelty in the adventure.
Though that also means we'll never see a Gym Leader dedicated to the Dark type...

They could always bring gyms back though in a future game.

 

[Professor Pumpkaboo]

https://www.gamnesia.com/news/ninte...re-are-no-gyms-or-hms-in-pokemon-sun-and-moon

That means, no more HM-slaves ! \o/
(I still hope though Surf and Fly are still there as TMs, as they were the only 2 worth HMs in battle.)

Also no more gyms, that will add a significant amount of novelty in the adventure.
Though that also means we'll never see a Gym Leader dedicated to the Dark type...

The fact I dont have to rely on HMs anymore makes me happy

 

[Sir Gengar de Èctoplasma]

Finally downloading Sun & Moon demo. Too bad the download is very slow...

https://www.gamnesia.com/news/ninte...re-are-no-gyms-or-hms-in-pokemon-sun-and-moon

That means, no more HM-slaves ! \o/
(I still hope though Surf and Fly are still there as TMs, as they were the only 2 worth HMs in battle.)

Also no more gyms, that will add a significant amount of novelty in the adventure.
Though that also means we'll never see a Gym Leader dedicated to the Dark type...

Spoiler: Sun & Moon TM spoilers

Dataminers have confirmed Fly, Surf and Waterfall will return as TMs.

 

[Burruni]

I hate people saying that encountering legendaries is "too easy" in recent pokemon games.
When 2 of the 3 birds were in dungeons that the average player would both pass through and see if thy were being any level of thorough for Kanto.
The roaming system for legendaries has always been a massive complaint.
And most of the post-game legendaries (namely soaring based) in ORAS has reasonings that go up to Mew Truck levels of stupid.

 

[Ura]

The whole "no more Gyms thing" is only pertaining to Sun & Moon right?

I really hope that doesn't imply every game going forward won't have Gyms.

 

[Blue_Sword_Edge]

I admit, HMs are a pain to remove when you needed them gone. At least with modern TMs, you can reuse them. As for the gyms, removing them is a game changer (I have have to determine if this is for the better or worse.) Though, I don't want changes to everything in a franchise all the time. I want some stable concepts to hang around.

 

[FalKoopa]

Do you guys ever feel like nobody likes you, but you know that isn't true?

Never felt like that.

Neither in real life nor online.

 

[SegaNintendoUbisoft]

Do you guys ever feel like nobody likes you, but you know that isn't true?

I don't feel like people hate me when I know they don't. But I do sometimes feel like a burden to some people.

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

If I felt I was well liked I probably wouldn't have just got an increased dosage of anti anxiety medication and a reference to a therapist. That was my doctor's appointment today

 

[Swamp Sensei]

Never felt like that.

Neither in real life nor online.

You're a lucky man.

 

[Chrono.]

The whole "no more Gyms thing" is only pertaining to Sun & Moon right?

I really hope that doesn't imply every game going forward won't have Gyms.

Probably not.

Ohmori said it was because Gyms would be out of place in a region like Alola.

 

[Deleted member]

I love how those that weren't following the datamining are acting like no HMs are news
And no gyms was something we knew about since the Island Trials were revealed

 

[Guybrush20X6]

While we're on the topic, outside of Surf and Waterfall being standard reliable water attacks, Fly being a pretty good move on NPCs and Rock Smash helping out on occasion, were any HMs useful in battle? And don't say Defog, it became useful LONG after it was demoted.

 

[Swamp Sensei]

While we're on the topic, outside of Surf and Waterfall being standard reliable water attacks, Fly being a pretty good move on NPCs and Rock Smash helping out on occasion, were any HMs useful in battle? And don't say Defog, it became useful LONG after it was demoted.

Strength had some use.

 

[Deleted member]

While we're on the topic, outside of Surf and Waterfall being standard reliable water attacks, Fly being a pretty good move on NPCs and Rock Smash helping out on occasion, were any HMs useful in battle? And don't say Defog, it became useful LONG after it was demoted.

Strength was kind of alright (Especially if you had a normal type with high attack, such as Snorlax) but other than that, I don't think there was.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

While we're on the topic, outside of Surf and Waterfall being standard reliable water attacks, Fly being a pretty good move on NPCs and Rock Smash helping out on occasion, were any HMs useful in battle? And don't say Defog, it became useful LONG after it was demoted.

Strength's a pretty good normal type move

 

[Professor Pumpkaboo]

You're a lucky man.

I would say its ass kissing online but

I guess he is just lucky

 

[praline]

Hello my loyal subjects, your king hath returned!

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

Why'd they get rid of dig though?

It's fairly useful early game as a ground move

 

[Aetheri]

While we're on the topic, outside of Surf and Waterfall being standard reliable water attacks, Fly being a pretty good move on NPCs and Rock Smash helping out on occasion, were any HMs useful in battle? And don't say Defog, it became useful LONG after it was demoted.

Cut is a weaker slash, Flash is just another sand-attack, Whirlpool is a water type Fire Spin, Rock Climb like a weaker strength but with a chance to confuse (which got nerfed)....

I mean they aren't useless but there are better moves to use instead of them...

 

[praline]

Make sure to talk to the guy outside of the pokecenter in the demo for the free items.

 

[Deleted member]

Strength's a pretty good normal type move

It's pretty much outclassed by return though.

I also forgot to say this last night, but I'm really glad there's no HMs. I was getting tired of having to teach hms just because, or have a pokemon that knows them on my team, just because. It opens more freedom with team potential.

 

[Wario Bros.]

One thing I never understood was why the hold item Berserk Gene was the only hold item (that had an original effect) to not exist in Generation III or beyond.

And I don't think Sun & Moon work fix it either.

 

[SuperMii3D]

Waterfall is a pretty decent water physical attack move with 80 base power and a chance to flinch me thinks

 

[Professor Pumpkaboo]

Make sure to talk to the guy outside of the pokecenter in the demo for the free items.

Thanks for reminding me about that

 

[Deleted member]

I'm so glad HMs are removed. because who could forget this

Just caught Ho-Oh, time to go to the Pokemon League, lemme just teach Waterfall to Pokey for a sec-
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ARE YOU.
****ING.
KIDDING ME.

good times

 

[Wario Bros.]

Make sure to talk to the guy outside of the pokecenter in the demo for the free items.

You mean 10 copies of an item that does absolutely nothing and only worth 100 Pokémon Dollars each?

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

Waterfall is a pretty decent physical attack move with 80 base power and a chance to flinch me thinks

It's probably the best of the Water Physical attacks as Aqua tail has a lower chance of hitting, even if it's got higher base damage

 

[Sir Gengar de Èctoplasma]

Why'd they get rid of dig though?

It's fairly useful early game as a ground move

And also for getting out of caves. Now I have to start buying Escape Ropes again.

 

[Blue_Sword_Edge]

Why'd they get rid of dig though?

It's fairly useful early game as a ground move

I wouldn't risk it with the potential of getting tagged by Earthquake. It's a good stalling move, if Earthquake isn't involved.

 

[FalKoopa]

You're a lucky man.

I mean, I've had other issues like a serious lack of self-esteem and feeling like I can't achieve anything, but not that.

People both RL and online have been pretty nice to me.

 

[Wario Bros.]

And also for getting out of caves. Now I have to start buying Escape Ropes again.

For all we know, we could get a key item or field Pokémon that has the same effects of Dig.

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

I wouldn't risk it with the potential of getting tagged by Earthquake. It's a good stalling move, if Earthquake isn't involved.

That's why I said early game, you aren't going to run into Earthquake that early

 

[Burruni]

Reminder that this is the path to get the Regis in RSE/ORAS, if you didn't have a guide.

1. Stumble upon the Sealed Cavern, which is one dive spot in the maze of sea currents between Pacifidlog and Slateport
2. Resurface at a specific spot
3. Decipher that the random symbols across the mounds are actually a cipher for braile to english, 6 letters at a time.
   
4. Use this to figure out that the back wall is telling you to use dig at that specific spot for the wall to blast open. In gen 3, if you taught dig via tm to someone and, say, replaced it with EQ later, this required somehow discovering that Nincada learns this at 41 or Trapinch learns it at 45, both well past their evolution point.
5. Translate again using the cipher to learn that you specifically need a Wailord and Relicanth in your party (the latter being PARTICULARLY rare, and I don't even know if NPCs use it so ITS location might be a mystery) and thy have to be in a specific position that actually depended on what version of thee game you're playing.
6. Then you get to find where all 3 of them are hidden in the world with unmarked areas. The only hint being that the one for Registeel has an npc outside of it remark how it has to be important at some point.
7. Each of the chambers has a braile riddle for you to solve in order to be able to encounter them. Once again changing depending on which version you play.
8. IF YOU'RE PLAYING THE REMAKES, you can also get Regigigas. Who will only appear after you've beaten the game. In Regice's chamber. If all three are in your party. And the Regice is nicknamed. And is holding one of four items out of ~150 in the game, one in particular most players would never know existed because its exclusive to Battle Maison or a 5% held item by Snorunt. Without even a Braile Riddle to tell you this. edit: And if it's night time it won't appear at all.

 

[praline]

You mean 10 copies of an item that does absolutely nothing and only worth 100 Pokémon Dollars each?

Hey you get something for free from just talking to a dude so who cares?

 

[Sir Gengar de Èctoplasma]

For all we know, we could get a key item or field Pokémon that has the same effects of Dig.

I hope you're right. I never remember to buy Escape Ropes, and I doubt Mudsdale will learn Dig by leveling up.