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Nintendo's upcoming console, Codename NX Thread

finalark

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I've been thinking about how Nintendo should handle the NX, and I think Nintendo really, really shouldn't be targeting the casual market. Now, I'm not saying that as any sort of elitist statement or any sort of wish fulfillment, I'm saying that from a business stand point Nintendo really needs to re-prioritize who its target market is.

Let's get real here, the Wii U was born of two things: Hopes that the Wii name could carry it to victory and hopes that the tablet controller could catch the attention of the casual market, who had heavily shifted towards mobile market by the time the Wii U hit shelves. The problem was, the Wii U came out in 2012, not 2006.

IMO the Wii was a once-in-a-lifetime sort of deal. Clever marketing, a gimmick that took the gaming world by storm and good timing is what made the console successful. As I said, the Wii came out in 2006. At that point in time the smart phone market was still in its absolute infancy, to the point where I'd call it more of a fetus than an infant even, and the mobile gaming scene was damn near nonexistent. So casuals who just wanted to grind their brain on Bejeweled for a few hours after work usually did so while dedicated fans played their GCN/PS2/Xbox.

Then the Wii came out. While those of who grew up in the HD era may find this baffling with how much of a joke it eventually became, when the Wii first hit store shelves in 2006 its motion controls were a big deal. No big-name company had attempted anything like this before at this level. Aside from a few naysayers damn never everyone, myself included, were caught up in this thing. Hell, back then I was convinced that motion controls were the future, and many people agreed with me. Regardless of if Nintendo intended it or not, the console's easy to learn controller, low price tag and pick-up-and-play friendly games drew in a casual audience who ate that up like crazy.

Now lets move forward to six years later. The Wii is the best selling console of all time and the toilet paper at Nintendo's offices has been replaced with hundred dollar bills. But at this point the iPhone and iPad was most certainly a thing and the casual audience that had defined the Wii had already moved on to play Bejeweled on their phones. Nintendo went for the obvious answer, make a console that emulates a tablet. Unfortunately for them, the gaming market returned to how it was in the pre-2006 days. People who wanted simple, straight forward time killers were not the same people who were willing to pay $300 for a dedicating gaming machine. This ultimately left the Wii U a confused console that was uncertain what it wanted it be or what to do with its hardware.

With my extended thoughts out of the way, I'm think about what Nintendo could possibly do with the NX. Chances are, they're going to go for some sort of gimmick. This is not immediately a bad thing. The DS was extremely gimmicky but it worked because the gimmick in question actually enhanced game play and allowed for unique games to be made. If Nintendo has to gave some kind of gimmick then they need to make it another DS. That, and they need killer first party titles plus fantastic third party ones to hold us over while we wait for the next big game from Nintendo.
 

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From Mynintendonews:

I don't have anything to say about this but I thought I'd post it here to see what you guys thought about it.
 

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Hopefully it sticks. If Nintendo is finally making a home consoles that third party devs actually want to make games for then it's a step in the right direction.
 

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I'd bet some money on the NX being the long-rumored fusion system.
It just seems to make too much sense. The code name "NX" alone could mean "Nintendo Cross," or "Nexus". Reggie went on about some "transformation" BS at E3 despite the only things having "transformation" were the Arwing in Star Fox Zero, and those amiibo Skylanders.

It would also make sense to develop for from a 3rd party stand-point, if what we assume about the system is correct. Even though Nintendo has this big gimmick with the NX, 3rd parties can still port their games to just the console part of the system or just the handheld part, and not make it be able to switch.

Meh.
 
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I'd bet some money on the NX being the long-rumored fusion system.
It just seems to make too much sense. The code name "NX" alone could mean "Nintendo Cross"
This is what popped up in my head right after I became aware of its announcement in March.
 

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There's not too much information to go on at the moment but from what I've read so far I'm scared that it might be another gimmick console due to them being afraid of the other companies copying their new idea.

I think Nintendo should have just waited until the next generation, its too late to release a console on par with Xbone and PS4 and if they release something more powerful 2-3 years down the line the new microsoft and sony consoles will just be better again and we'll have another Wii U situation.

Best case scenario its a powerful handheld that can dock and connect to the TV, releasing a new console seems like shooting themselves in the foot.
 

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Oh no....
I hope and pray that this is wrong...
I thought 2017 might be a bit early...but 2016?! Holy crap! Not even Holiday 2016, but JULY 2016!

They don't get it. They need to launch around the same time as the next Xbox and PS, so their system can have similar specs! There's no way if they're launching it in 2016! The next Xbox and PS will come out in 2018 or so, and that 2 years will make them so far ahead of the NX!

DO YOU NOT LEARN, NINTENDO! LAUNCHING YOUR SYSTEMS EARLY DOES NOT WORK!

Also, they must have some serious balls or a lot of faith in the NX to ship 20 Million Units at launch. The Wii U only sold 10 Million, and that's as of right now.
 

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Oh no....
I hope and pray that this is wrong...
I thought 2017 might be a bit early...but 2016?! Holy crap! Not even Holiday 2016, but JULY 2016!

They don't get it. They need to launch around the same time as the next Xbox and PS, so their system can have similar specs! There's no way if they're launching it in 2016! The next Xbox and PS will come out in 2018 or so, and that 2 years will make them so far ahead of the NX!

DO YOU NOT LEARN, NINTENDO! LAUNCHING YOUR SYSTEMS EARLY DOES NOT WORK!

Also, they must have some serious balls or a lot of faith in the NX to ship 20 Million Units at launch. The Wii U only sold 10 Million, and that's as of right now.
I just hope they have a real heavy hitter.
 

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The NX needs to have similar specs to that of other major gaming consoles on the market. Not that Nintendo needs amazing graphics, but to create an ease of development for third party titles. The transition from a X-Box One version to a Playstation 4 version is much easier then to transition to a Wii U due to the amount of adjustments needed in meeting system requirements. Without third party support Nintendo loses a significant piece of the gaming demographic.

Perhaps Nintendo only cares about it's IP and has a strong belief that it's titles are far superior. In which case it's own arrogance will be it's demise. Nintendo does have great IP but variety is in the spice of life.

Furthermore this console cannot be rushed, it needs to be finely polished. It needs to meet and exceed all fan expectations in order to be successful. Nintendo needs to except that they have an adult audience as well and that children in the West play more adult oriented games (Call of Duty). Nintendo believes in community and social gaming in the living room, which is a great thing. However the internet has allowed for an evolution in social gaming. Where you can connect with anyone online and potentially make friends. Nintendo needs to embrace the internet and have toggle options for under aged users. Voice chat allows for deeper immersion into tactical or strategy games.

It needs to launch with a some of it's top gaming titles. These titles need to have all the game modes, options, and capabilities fans come to expect for the next in a new generation and series.

Nintendo's old way of thinking is a double edged sword. They need to find a way to keep the old way of thinking, but also have an option to embrace adult level gaming with internet and voice chat.

My wish is that the replacement for Club Nintendo becomes a Nintendo wide online account. A place where you can store your digitally owned titles. As system memory usually fills up very quickly. Which could also allow you to Download all your bought games to your system or external storage device. If an online account holds records and information of your owned games, if your external device breaks, its as simple as purchasing a new storage device and redownloading them onto the new one.
 
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Oh no....
I hope and pray that this is wrong...
I thought 2017 might be a bit early...but 2016?! Holy crap! Not even Holiday 2016, but JULY 2016!

DO YOU NOT LEARN, NINTENDO! LAUNCHING YOUR SYSTEMS EARLY DOES NOT WORK!
If this is true then that means it will probably be hitting store shelves as soon as they give us details about it.

You know what other console hit store shelves as soon as it was announced at E3?



It was a bad idea then and it will probably be a bad idea now. Hopefully the article is fake but we'll just have to wait and see.
 
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Don't take rumors seriously; take them with a grain of salt. For all we know, it's fake; Nintendo themselves said they wouldn't reveal anything, even the release date, in 2015. If the Android thing was fake, then so can this.

On another note, Nintendo seems quite optimistic regarding NX; they say it will "delight and surprise consumers."
More info here: http://mynintendonews.com/2015/07/0...-says-it-will-delight-and-surprise-consumers/
 
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Oh no....
I hope and pray that this is wrong...
I thought 2017 might be a bit early...but 2016?! Holy crap! Not even Holiday 2016, but JULY 2016!

They don't get it. They need to launch around the same time as the next Xbox and PS, so their system can have similar specs! There's no way if they're launching it in 2016! The next Xbox and PS will come out in 2018 or so, and that 2 years will make them so far ahead of the NX!

DO YOU NOT LEARN, NINTENDO! LAUNCHING YOUR SYSTEMS EARLY DOES NOT WORK!

Also, they must have some serious balls or a lot of faith in the NX to ship 20 Million Units at launch. The Wii U only sold 10 Million, and that's as of right now.
That makes zero sense. Like I said before, most Wii U owners would negatively react to this. And did I mention the Saturn / Dreamcast fiasco?
 

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I thought I'd liven up this thread with something positive, rumors say that AMD will be making the processor for the NX.
 

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I probably will not be interested in getting their next console since I have considered my Wii U to be the last home console I'll ever buy. I'll have to wait and see what direction Nintendo will take with this NX thing.
 

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Something interesting that popped up on my Facebook feed today that might be relevant.

Nintendo just filed a patent for a disc-free console.

The patent in question is for a "stationary console" with no disk drive and "external cards for storage."

The article is clickbaity as **** (lol at that title trying to imply Nintendo is returning to cartridges) so I followed his link back to the source, a thread on Neogaf with much, much more details. The original article fails to mention that the patent also talks about a control with a screen. This could easily be the blueprints for a budget Wii U that uses memory cards of some sort and a digital only system.

Sauce of sauce: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1099932
 
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From speculation I've read, the NX is going back to the days of the N64 in terms of memory storage, and it will get rid of reading discs.

Hopefully
when another Star Fox game comes around, it won't be such a well, plunder down under.

I can see the NX taking advantage of 4D animation, since I think that's where animation is going. So when Mario gets burned, you feel hot.

In any case, I hope the NX is a behemoth with great things to come.
 

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http://mynintendonews.com/2015/09/04/more-nintendo-nx-rumours-emerge/
DIdn't Nintendo themselves deconfirm any collaboration with Android?
Some thoughts on the rumors:

  • 3DS is a bit old, they’re planning of replacing it. Some games will still come out on it, but big projects are being moved on portable NX
Why do people think Nintendo is some how done with the 3DS? The console is doing very well, both Nintendo and third parties are still eagerly making games for it and it's only been on the market for four years to boot. The original DS was around for seven.

  • Big focus on the OS as well. They hired people that worked for Google on Android, the guys who worked on the Gamecube OS and Wii U browser are there too. Optimized versions of the same OS for every NX platform (think, again, W10), each with its set of specific functions. Updates will come out at the same time, they’re focusing on making the OS blazing fast on every platform
This seems a bit fishy to me. I'm pretty sure Nintendo said that they weren't working with Android, as you said. Not to mention that name dropping the GameCube seems suspiciously clickbaity.

  • The home will have bc with the Wii U. Gamepad should be compatible as a controller, considering selling it standalone. Can connect with the portable for offtv and bc. WiiMote compatibility is being considered too. As for support, since the new home won’t have an optical drive, they’re considering an external one. Also being considered NNID/eShop bc for titles bought on the eShop. Seems they’re considering digital games sharing too, but this bit is not perfectly clear
I'm hoping that this is true, since giving the NX extensive backwards compatibility with the Wii U would help soften the blow for Wii U owners. Well, it would turn a slap to the nuts into a quick jab and at the end of the day you're still getting hit in the nuts. I am hesitant to believe this, though. It feel like this article was cobbled together with the recent patent and Wii U owner dreams.

I'm really not in a position to believe this article, especially with the sheer amount of fanservicey namedropping in it.

I'm really hoping Nintendo doesn't discontinue the 3DS for whatever the NX ends up being. Although I'm taking that with a salty grain of salty salt too since this article feels like the "leaker" heard that Nintendo wants to integrate a handheld with the NX, took a look at what Sony was doing with the vita and PS4 and just said "That, that. They're doing that."
 
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Forgot this thread existed.

The most interesting thing to come from this rumor, to me, is the fact that apparently the new handheld's screen is going to be 540p, compared to the 3DS' 240p. It is certainly a huge improvement, but I really don't think Nintendo wants to do that for their next handheld. If this means it'll be closer to Wii U power (if not a bit less powerful than Wii U) then my interest is going to increase.

720p for a handheld seems too much imo. It'd be like the 3DS during launch, where they had to cut the price drop for reasons a few months later.

I can, however, see them using 420p as the screen resolution at the very least. The Wii U GamePad's screen resolution is 420p, and while the TV is almost always better, 420p is more than enough.

I would love to see that 540p though. I don't want to see the 3DS go away as it's still doing well for them, but then again they've said NX would not be replacing both Wii U and 3DS, and most people think it'll replace the former.
 

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If it's a console/handheld hybrid as well as has backwards compatibility, I think it should be fine.
 

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I wish the Wii U could have lasted five years but I enjoyed all the games I played on it and the GamePad and Wii U are my second favourite game controller and game console respectively, next to Wiimote and Nunchuck, and Wii plus the great library of games for Wii U was grand! But I understand NX has to come out this year! That's fine with me.

I don't plan on picking up NX but I will probably snag it eventually later in it 's life cycle hopefully. I hope the controller is something new and innovative, the console brings some new features, and, it's got a good library if games, they get third parties to support them till the console's life cycle ends, and it's something successful if they do that Nintendo will have another successful console on their hands.


But there's not doubt the thing is coming this year the analysis only adds to those claims, I say Nintendo unveils the concept in maybe March does a full blowout of what it is, how it works, the controller, console, and games at E3 and it comes October or November 2016 this year!
 
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I don't plan on picking up NX but I will probably snag it eventually later in it 's life cycle hopefully.
People who say this stuff usually end up standing in the midnight launch lines outside of Best Buy later anyway. Just accept that a hype-generating reveal or a desirable exclusive could change your mind at any time.
 

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People who say this stuff usually end up standing in the midnight launch lines outside of Best Buy later anyway. Just accept that a hype-generating reveal or a desirable exclusive could change your mind at any time.
That might have been why he said he will probably get it later.

Besides, getting a console at launch is never a good idea.
 
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Releasing the NX later this year is a rather premature move Nintendo made if they are going through with this, in my opinion. It just shows how desperate they're getting all because the Wii U isn't selling as much as they thought it would and I seriously doubt this new system will help them. At that rate, they'll end up just like SEGA.
 

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That might have been why he said he will probably get it later.

Besides, getting a console at launch is never a good idea.
Tons of people do it anyway. Hype works in mysterious ways. PS4 sold gangbusters at launch (at least in the US), despite having a very weak starting library and no backwards compatibility. And we all remember what happened with the original Wii.
 
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