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Sunrise, Sunset - Isaac for Smash Ultimate #GoldenSunday

Ura

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WAT!? Where!? I must see this.
Yeah, we were all joking about how if Isaac made a 1 second cameo in the intro of Aces it would be more than anything he's gotten in this generation of gaming.

Which is both hysterical and sad at the same time.
 

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Yeah, we were all joking about how if Isaac made a 1 second cameo in the intro of Aces it would be more than anything he's gotten in this generation of gaming.

Which is both hysterical and sad at the same time.
As much of a joke as it might be, though, I would totally be happy to see Golden Sun mentioned at all in any game. If Isaac somehow made it into Aces in some form, I would be happy to see him mentioned.
 

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As much of a joke as it might be, though, I would totally be happy to see Golden Sun mentioned at all in any game. If Isaac somehow made it into Aces in some form, I would be happy to see him mentioned.
If he is playable in Aces, I'm going to use him more than any other character. Probably won't be available in the story, but whatever!
 
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If he's playable in Aces, I will buy Aces.
I don't really care for Mario sports games but if buying it could potentially convince the Takahashi Brothers to make another Golden Sun game, I'm in.
...I can't promise that I'll main him though, considering ****ing Chain Chmp and my boy Waluigi are in the game.
 

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If he's playable in Aces, I will buy Aces.
I don't really care for Mario sports games but if buying it could potentially convince the Takahashi Brothers to make another Golden Sun game, I'm in.
...I can't promise that I'll main him though, considering ****ing Chain Chmp and my boy Waluigi are in the game.
Isaac and Chain Chomp as doubles partners.

I really want to see a text box pop up: "Isaac's tennis racket lets out a howl! Power shot!"
 
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Isaac and Chain Chomp as doubles partners.

I really want to see a text box pop up: "Isaac's tennis racket lets out a howl! Power shot!"
I'm dying :laugh:
Though I'd rather have Waluigi and Isaac as double partners if anything, as they happen both happen to be Camelot characters I want in Smash.
 

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I'm loving the idea of Isaac in Aces.
And then I'll be sad when it won't happen :(

Also, a while back there was discussion about a new Golden Sun using the Mario Tennis Aces engine. While I don't know how that would actually go down, I'm totally digging the idea of a similar art style for a new Golden Sun. The previous GS games have had bright, colourful worlds with almost a "cartoony" overall look I would say, but not going all the way to any chibi-cutesyness stuff - so looking at the story mode overworld of Aces in particular, something like that would look great for Golden Sun imo.
 
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I'm loving the idea of Isaac in Aces.
And then I'll be sad when it won't happen :(

Also, a while back there was discussion about a new Golden Sun using the Mario Tennis Aces engine. While I don't know how that would actually go down, I'm totally digging the idea of a similar art style for a new Golden Sun. The previous GS games have had bright, colourful worlds with almost a "cartoony" overall look I would say, but not going all the way to any chibi-cutesyness stuff - so looking at the story mode overworld of Aces in particular, something like that would look great for Golden Sun imo.
I'd be down for it, purely because if a Golden Sun would be made with using Mario Tennis graphics, the idea of Mario and Isaac crossing over in Smash becomes all the more likely. Am down for a cartoonish design, but they gotta do something special and over the top for Psynergy attacks and Summons- just like in the elder 3 games.
 
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Isaac in Mario Tennis would be cool, but i fear that it would get Captain Falcon syndrome.

Anyway, Comic Time!


On the one hand, the Cloak Ball. On the other hand, a sunny vacation. Choose wisely.
 

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I'd be down for it, purely because if a Golden Sun would be made with using Mario Tennis graphics, the idea of Mario and Isaac crossing over in Smash becomes all the more likely. Am down for a cartoonish design, but they gotta do something special and over the top for Psynergy attacks and Summons- just like in the elder 3 games.
Summons in Tennis would be a little OP, wouldn't they?
 
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Just so you know, Nintendo uploaded a video confirming who's gonna participate in Smash 2018 Invitational. It includes the the return of ZeRo, but everyone else is new (Armada, Abadango, etc)



"The power of Mia's Cuteness Compels you!"

And with that, we’ve gotten through the color comics! Tune in next time to see the first artist: Tonami Minato!
 

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Oh, man. E3 is closing in. A month away. I doubt we’ll get a Direct first. So much waiting. So much roller coaster of emotion.
 

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I do wonder who the first reveals will be. The only newcomers we know of are the Inklings, so I wonder who's going to be first when they next discuss the game!

Wouldn't it be awesome if Isaac was announced and playable during the Invitational?
 
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I do wonder who the first reveals will be. The only newcomers we know of are the Inklings, so I wonder who's going to be first when they next discuss the game!

Wouldn't it be awesome if Isaac was announced and playable during the Invitational?
Every player actually goes in with a newcomer. Isaac vs Ray. K. Rool vs Ridley. Waluigi vs Inklings. Takamaru vs Elma...
 

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I think it might be weird to pop in all of a sudden. Anyways, I support Isaac, might not mean much since the support list here is BIG, but I support anyways. I feel as if this is the biggest chance Issac has at the moment.
 

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That's basically because it's based off the one I made for pre-Smash 4.

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  334. Warheart_666
  335. Wigglytuff ★
  336. Wintropy
  337. WhiteEaglePL
  338. Xelion
  339. Xenigma
  340. XeVioN
  341. Xiivi
  342. xLemmy_KoopaX
  343. XTremeGamer1234
  344. XxLtxX
  345. YellowLord
  346. YoshiandToad
  347. Young Horsetail
  348. Your Hero
  349. zagman505
  350. zaiman12345
  351. Zandro
  352. ZanZero
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That's basically because it's based off the one I made for pre-Smash 4.

Anyways, updated.

  1. _Sheik
  2. 1/128
  3. 9Blades
  4. ☆Jisatsu☆
  5. *Verrix*
  6. Accursed
  7. Adeptmune
  8. Agk0001
  9. AgatioGanon
  10. Aguki90
  11. airConditioner
  12. aldelaro5
  13. alguidrag
  14. Altais
  15. Amberloo
  16. AncientArk
  17. andimidna
  18. Apollyon
  19. Aqua Rock X
  20. AquaDork1
  21. Arcadenik
  22. Arteen
  23. Asian_Charizard
  24. Astraltar
  25. Aureola
  26. Aurora Jenny
  27. AustarusIV
  28. AwesomeCauliflower68
  29. Awesomedude444
  30. Backgammon
  31. Balgorxz
  32. BandannaWaddleDee
  33. Bane84
  34. bassem6
  35. Bassoonist
  36. Bingoshi
  37. Bkupa666
  38. Blackwolf666
  39. Blaziken
  40. BluePikmin11
  41. BoltDragon
  42. BoN~
  43. Bowser-Daimao
  44. BridgesWithTurtles
  45. Browny
  46. Buddy002
  47. Bunny8093
  48. BUnit
  49. Burruni
  50. Calane
  51. CactusBlah
  52. candyissweet
  53. Capita
  54. Cap'nChreest
  55. Captain Toad
  56. CardStealer1
  57. Chapter Serf
  58. CheckmateChuck
  59. CheeseBroJoe
  60. Cheezey Bites
  61. Chromfirmed
  62. ChronoPenguin
  63. ClinkStryphart
  64. CliffJumper
  65. cocy965
  66. Coaltergeist
  67. Crap-Zapper
  68. CrossDispatcher
  69. cybersai
  70. Dalek_Kolt
  71. Dendros
  72. Desert Croc
  73. Destroyer713
  74. Dezeray112
  75. Dhragen
  76. Diddy Kong
  77. Dimensionsword64
  78. DivinexRose
  79. DJ3DS
  80. DJBor
  81. D-Man9293
  82. DogManStar
  83. DoodleDuck97
  84. Doncalot
  85. DraginHikari
  86. Drakonis
  87. Dromader
  88. DukeNapoleon
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  90. e105beta
  91. Eagle
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  93. ED Cantu
  94. Edlocke
  95. egaddmario
  96. ElPanandero
  97. El Syd
  98. EndlessChrom
  99. EndlessRain
  100. EnhaloTricks
  101. ETFruitNinja
  102. ethanrodgers223
  103. Ezequileste
  104. Falgor
  105. Falkoopa
  106. False Sense
  107. FamiconDisk
  108. Felix_the_Slayer
  109. fenyx4
  110. ferioku
  111. Fire Rider
  112. Fire_Voyager
  113. FirstBlade
  114. Flareon
  115. Flintike
  116. fogbadge.
  117. foolssigma
  118. FreddyOnDrugs
  119. Friesnchip
  120. GalacticPetey
  121. Geno Boost
  122. Ghirahilda
  123. GladiusVortex
  124. GM_3826
  125. GoodGrief741
  126. Gotann
  127. GraveEclipse567
  128. heylodom
  129. hwrdjacob
  130. iam8bit
  131. Icana
  132. iDazedX_x
  133. Inawordyes
  134. IntelliHeath1
  135. Invisible Shiny Bulbasaur
  136. isaac3000
  137. IvanQuote
  138. JaidynReiman
  139. Jak_spoon
  140. Jamurai
  141. JDogindy
  142. JohnnySparkxs
  143. Just a random scrub
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  148. Kikaru
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  150. KingCloud
  151. KingShadow
  152. KiraYoshikage
  153. KirbyDragon
  154. Kirbyfan391
  155. Kisae
  156. Kokirikory
  157. Koori
  158. Kumatora
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  160. Lady Palutena
  161. Lampy
  162. LaniusShrike
  163. LasermasterA
  164. Leafeon523
  165. LeeYawshee
  166. legendofrob1
  167. LemmyKoopa
  168. lightdasher
  169. LightheartedBum
  170. Lightosia
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  180. lunarum
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  182. Lurxy
  183. M23-X0
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  186. MAGMIS
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  197. Minato Arisato
  198. Mikegamer0608
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  204. MrMacBeth
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  207. mynameisv
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  210. Nauzgo
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  225. Oz37
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  257. sandfall
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  268. Shinhed-echi
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  270. Sidboylol
  271. SirCamp
  272. skaaaa
  273. Skeleton o' Fun
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  281. smashtriforce77
  282. smileMasky
  283. SmilingMad
  284. SMX
  285. Solfiner
  286. someonetookjacob
  287. SonicLink125
  288. SonicSmasher
  289. SorrowOfAcheron
  290. SoulofKhaos
  291. Spatman
  292. Spazzy_D
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  294. Spootondorf
  295. Sqid
  296. SSBFan
  297. Staarih
  298. StaffofSmashing
  299. Strider_Bond00J
  300. StrikeBlade
  301. SuperBrawler
  302. Superfiremario
  303. Supersmash77
  304. Superyoshiom
  305. Swampasaur
  306. Sykin
  307. TCT~Phantom
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  309. TehEpicRyuga
  310. The Curious Volnutt
  311. The One Who Wrote This
  312. Thekewlusername
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  314. TheRealHeroOfWinds
  315. TheSeanMan
  316. TheSpaceKing
  317. The Stoopid Unikorn
  318. TheTactician
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  320. ThirdDay
  321. ThunderOverload
  322. TimeSmash
  323. ToothiestAura
  324. True Blue Warrior
  325. Turmalinium
  326. UltimateWario
  327. Ultinarok
  328. Vann Accessible
  329. Vegito2727
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  331. Vintage Creep
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  333. walph
  334. Warheart_666
  335. Wigglytuff ★
  336. Wintropy
  337. WhiteEaglePL
  338. Xelion
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  340. XeVioN
  341. Xiivi
  342. xLemmy_KoopaX
  343. XTremeGamer1234
  344. XxLtxX
  345. YellowLord
  346. YoshiandToad
  347. Young Horsetail
  348. Your Hero
  349. zagman505
  350. zaiman12345
  351. Zandro
  352. ZanZero
  353. ZarroTsu
  354. ZeldaMaster
  355. ZestyÑ
  356. Zulyar
Yeah. Thats alot more than I expected. I hope our dreams come true and have Issac finally join the roster.
 

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I think it might be weird to pop in all of a sudden. Anyways, I support Isaac, might not mean much since the support list here is BIG, but I support anyways. I feel as if this is the biggest chance Issac has at the moment.
Isaac might not be very relevant anymore, but with the lack of new characters or obvious choices, I think he might have a decent shot if Sakurai decides to use the ballot more.
 
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LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, IVAN, THE HUMAN LEAF BLOWER!
 

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I am so nervous approaching E3. It feels like such a good chance, but at the same time... I just don't know. Will we finally see the Golden Sunrise?
 

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I am so nervous approaching E3. It feels like such a good chance, but at the same time... I just don't know. Will we finally see the Golden Sunrise?
I'm afraid I don't think it is a good chance. Camelot has been focusing on Mario Tennis Aces. If we didn't have that, then things would be up in the air, but sadly we do.
 

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Maybe this is the last chance to see isaac in a smash bros game.. Hype for E3!
 

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I'm afraid I don't think it is a good chance. Camelot has been focusing on Mario Tennis Aces. If we didn't have that, then things would be up in the air, but sadly we do.
They just finished. They can start on a new game. If Isaac gets into Smash, I think we WILL see more of the series (at this point probably a Golden Sun 1+2 HD Collection). I'm just worried whether he will get in or not.

Unless we randomly get a new Golden Sun game, this E3 may be our last hope.

We've talked about Sakurai running out of new big name Nintendo characters. But he's also running out of new IP. Sure, he's got ARMS. But what else?




Top ten of chance, and top ten of want. What do you see? The only other new Nintendo IP is Takamaru.

Every Smash game adds new IP. Last game, we got Duck Hunt, Wii Fit, Xenoblade Chronicles, Punch Out!, and Animal Crossing (plus third parties). In Brawl, we got Wario, Kid Icarus, Pikmin, and...ROB.

But a lot of people are thinking Nintendo is running dry, and on big name franchises, it is. If the game starts pivoting away from Nintendo characters, towards third parties, then that will feel like a definitive statement from Sakurai, that Golden Sun just isn't good enough for Smash.
 

FamicomDisk

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In regards to E3 itself, I think it’s possible that we could see Isaac get announced for Smash. I find myself doubting that we’ll get a Golden Sun game alongside that, but then again, since the Switch released, Nintendo has been doing a lot of awesome stuff that fans have been asking for (bringing back the sandbox-style Mario, Metroid Prime 4, etc.), so who knows? :)
 
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If the game starts pivoting away from Nintendo characters, towards third parties, then that will feel like a definitive statement from Sakurai, that Golden Sun just isn't good enough for Smash.
You see, I feel like SSB4 - especially the DLC - was already heavily sending that message. When Cloud was revealed I just felt defeated. Cloud of all characters. A character that has nothing to do with Nintendo at all, and, in fact, blatantly represents Final Fantasy after its departure from Nintendo.

It all made me very sad. Golden Sun is surely good enough for Smash.
 

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You see, I feel like SSB4 - especially the DLC - was already heavily sending that message. When Cloud was revealed I just felt defeated. Cloud of all characters. A character that has nothing to do with Nintendo at all, and, in fact, blatantly represents Final Fantasy after its departure from Nintendo.

It all made me very sad. Golden Sun is surely good enough for Smash.
I'm not too surprised, myself. DLC makes a ton of sense for third party characters. It would be more exciting for fans (notice how all we got were veterans and third party characters, plus one ad who sold worse than all the others?), and the third party would probably get a bigger cut of the value, since you're buying basically JUST their character, instead of a whole game with fifty other characters.

Plus, the timing of the ballot made me think it's choices were either intended for Smash Switch from the beginning, or they saw how many popular characters they still had and decided to use it for Smash Switch. The timing is way too close to the start of production for me to think it's going to be ignored.

But if he doesn't make it into this game...
 

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I'm very hopeful, actually.
I feel we're gonna make it this time.

Not getting any Nintendo newcomers for DLC (apart from Corrin who was suggested to Sakurai, I think? And maybe Bayonetta, if you consider her a Nintendo character now) makes me think of something.

If the ballot was designed with Smash Switch in mind, and Sakurai realised he was nearing the bottom of the barrel for 'big' characters/franchises that had yet to appears in Smash, then not having characters like Isaac and K. Rool as Smash 4 DLC would make some sort of sense in regards to hype for Smash Switch.
Having a strong base roster.

Which why 3rd parties would make a much better choice as DLC for that game.

If we look at the image Skyblade posted, I think we can all mostly agree that the Nintendo characters on there are all that's left of a combination of 'big Nintendo' or fan demand or expectations.
Maybe it's missing a few characters, I don't know.

So I think a pretty safe assumption to make this time around is that quite a few of the expected characters are going to make it in, just because there isn't much else with as much recognition.

Obviously, we could get massively trolled and get a roster full of super obscure Nintendo characters or Nintendo could decide to go full business mode and fill it with 3rd parties.
We could get a mix of all three scenarios and get a few expected/'big Nintendo', quite a few 3rd parties and a higher-than-average number of obscure/retro characters.

But I am most confident in the 'ballot was a Smash Switch set-up' conspiracy theory.

Godspeed, Spiderman.
 

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We haven't seen the ballot results. And we may never. But what limited polling we could do indicated that Isaac has a decent chance. In some polls, he even outstripped King K. Rool. We can't know for sure.

However, if we're talking about Nintendo IP which don't have a character yet in Smash...
I don't remember any other one being at all high on ANY of the polling, except for the Inklings and Takamaru (and I'm not sure how much support he actually had, or if he just had people convinced he'd get in because Sakurai). ARMS wasn't on the radar yet, and every other high placement was either a third party, or from an IP that was already in Smash.
 

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Until Sakurai said Takamaru was considered no one except like 12 people actually wanted him in the game. Now his popularity is mostly bandwagon because everyone just seems him as the most probable retro.
 

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Until Sakurai said Takamaru was considered no one except like 12 people actually wanted him in the game. Now his popularity is mostly bandwagon because everyone just seems him as the most probable retro.
I really wish Mike Jones could have his own bandwagon support group lol.
 

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Until Sakurai said Takamaru was considered no one except like 12 people actually wanted him in the game. Now his popularity is mostly bandwagon because everyone just seems him as the most probable retro.
Agreed. And I'm actually wondering how he performed in the ballot because of that. He has a lot of bandwagon supporters now. But I don't think many would put him in over their most wanted. They support him, but don't push for him.

So, who else could have made it as high? Andy? Lip? Ray? I haven't seen any of them poll even close to Isaac (as fun as it would be to have them all in Smash).
 

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During the ballot the most support was probably for vets. So Wolf is probably one of the highest. After that, it was most likely K Rool and Ridley (in the west) and Inklings and some 3rd parties. If I think realistically I think Isaac would be in the top 12. Not sure where but somewhere in that range.

I really wish Mike Jones could have his own bandwagon support group lol.
Me too. Maybe he'll get mentioned by Sakurai one day and his popularity will explode too. Quick someone tweet Sakurai about StarTropics.
 
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During the ballot the most support was probably for vets. So Wolf is probably one of the highest. After that, it was most likely K Rool and Ridley (in the west) and Inklings and some 3rd parties. If I think realistically I think Isaac would be in the top 12.
I disagree, actually. The Lucas trailer released on the day the ballot went active, and that put both Lucas and Mewtwo on the list as being released for DLC. Roy came along two months later. I think most people just figured that Wolf was inevitable.

So I don't think that the veterans had tons of support in the ballot. People figured they'd make it in anyway and pushed for characters without a lot of chances.
 
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