Event - E3 Invitational 2014 Nintendo announces Skylanders-esque figurines to be shown at E3, what could it mean for Smash?

[8-peacock-8]

Yeah, but if you're above the age of 18 it's p*ssy repellent.

>The awkward moment when you know a guy who collects a crap ton of dolls/action figures and has a hot girlfriend.

 

[Eternal phoenix Fire]

>The awkward moment when you know a guy who collects a crap ton of dolls/action figures and has a hot girlfriend.

Guess he hit the jackpot.

 

[Wonks]

I suppose it all depends, but I've got to concede it would be pretty neat to have a collectable figurine for every playable character in Smash. (Or at least for my top five characters.)

 

[APC99]

I just hope it's more than Mario and Zelda. Nintendo has so many unique IPs, and I'd pay serious money in order to be able to have the entire cast of SSB4 in toy form, especially since I'm an artist and could use them for models. For sure, we'll probably see Mario, Luigi, Link and Bowser, but I want to see others.

In other words, I want licensed Star Fox toys.

Actually, that brings up a question: Could they do more than just playable characters? Like Assist Trophy figurines that can be used once per battle? Poke Ball figurines? Smash Run figurines which allow you to summon said enemy in Training Mode as a punching bag? TROPHY FIGURINES?

I just want to make cool dioramas.

 

[ChibiIceClimberz]

Well, this could bring in a lot of customization options for the game. Considering the success of Skylanders and Disney Infinity, I hope Smash 4 will bring in more sales for the system.

Also, Game C is Nintendo Land's Octopus Dance.

 

[Morbi]

I just hope it's more than Mario and Zelda. Nintendo has so many unique IPs, and I'd pay serious money in order to be able to have the entire cast of SSB4 in toy form, especially since I'm an artist and could use them for models. For sure, we'll probably see Mario, Luigi, Link and Bowser, but I want to see others.

In other words, I want licensed Star Fox toys.

Actually, that brings up a question: Could they do more than just playable characters? Like Assist Trophy figurines that can be used once per battle? Poke Ball figurines? Smash Run figurines which allow you to summon said enemy in Training Mode as a punching bag? TROPHY FIGURINES?

I just want to make cool dioramas.

I am sure there will be more than just Mario and Zelda, but honestly, I only care about Zelda. I might finally be able to get a Kaepora Gaebora figure.

 

[stan423321]

So, for once I am kinda happy that Nintendo is a Japanese company. If they'll go with expecting some people to buy loads of these, they will hopefully keep'em small. The current NFC stuff I sometimes see in stores looks like space management nightmare.

That said, this has all sorts of potential to go wrong. I'll wait with judging the thing until E3 though. There are multiple possible ways for them to go right with figurines, after all. Hell, if it was another company, I would expect something like the very special edition of Disney Infinity with figurines replaced with cheaper DLC (yes, this was a thing, although PC only I think).

 

[powerprotoman]

i just hope they make something akin to giant figures ala skylanders with ridley as the poster boy

 

[Guybrush20X6]

Yeah, but if you're above the age of 18 it's p*ssy repellent.

And that's why "her place" or "the car" are options. And if a girl bought one would it be a d*ck repellant?

 

[Eternal phoenix Fire]

And that's why "her place" or "the car" are options. And if a girl bought one would it be a d*ck repellant?

Nah. Girls can be kinda nerdy and it's ok. Double standards.

 

[Moldy Clay]

Regarding females:

Spoiler

I am not 100% sure why a gamer would invite a girl to their house in the first place if the girl doesn't like games or at least entertain the idea of them/collecting things. If you're just looking for a little something-something, then obviously you don't go to your place. If you want to pursue a relationship, you get over it. Relationships are about sharing hobbies/ideas and finding things that connect. If they don't like your hobbies, there's someone out there who does.

Me? I have an attractive girlfriend who has shelves of figures and plushes from various things (both girl & boy oriented). She has also bought me Luigi, Pokemon, Tingle, and Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles figures/plushes/merchandise. And we go to NYCC and Nintendo World Store events.

Having said that, people seem to forget that Nintendo has played the NFC game before with Pokemon Rumble U. The game had all the Pokemon readily available in-game, without needing any of the figurines. The figurines served the purpose of saving data for that specific Pokemon and letting you level them up and bring them with you to a friend's house.

So if SSB used figures, it could easily do the same thing. They'd all be available to unlock/play regardless if you had figures or not, but the figures would allow you to transfer movesets to another Wii U, similar to how the Wii Remote stored Miis and Brawl configurations. It would also allow you to unlock the character early, as an alternate method (similar to using Subspace Emissary or playing so many matches instead of an earned method).

And it wouldn't be just for SSB, either, as these figures would work with other games.

So easily, you could get a Luigi figure, configure your moveset to bring to a friend's house, but also use the figure to keep track of Mario Kart stats, play him in the next NSMB (instead of default Mario), retain stuff for Golf or Tennis and so on. And you'd be able to do this at home, at a friend's, on another system in the house, and eventually, on the 3DS as well.

So it makes the figures potentially useful as a cross-platform, cross-game thing.

 

[Katy Parry]

I would be absolutely ticked off if this was incorporated into Smash. I want to buy the game knowing that everything is there.

And its people like this that make Nintendo cautious about DLC content. So much money and potential is made with DL, but people wish to rather have everything for 59.99 and I agree with that 100%.

That's why I strongly feel Mario Kart 8 and Smash won't have DLC. Nintendo is too iffy about that.

I don't know...

Spoiler

I'm sure feisty females could make great use of these toys, if ya know what I mean.

Inappropriate.

 

[Pacack]

My only question is this:

How the heck will they make Mr. Game and Watch's trophy?

 

[stan423321]

Regarding females:

Spoiler

I am not 100% sure why a gamer would invite a girl to their house in the first place if the girl doesn't like games or at least entertain the idea of them/collecting things. If you're just looking for a little something-something, then obviously you don't go to your place. If you want to pursue a relationship, you get over it. Relationships are about sharing hobbies/ideas and finding things that connect. If they don't like your hobbies, there's someone out there who does.

Me? I have an attractive girlfriend who has shelves of figures and plushes from various things (both girl & boy oriented). She has also bought me Luigi, Pokemon, Tingle, and Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles figures/plushes/merchandise. And we go to NYCC and Nintendo World Store events.

Here's the thing. Games are sold in cases. These cases, generally speaking, look tasteful on a shelf. You can put them up in a way that only shows spines of the cases. You may also throw out the case and put the disc in some sort of CD organizer. Or you may buy a game online. Then there are some systems and accesories. Of course there are still people who are gonna have a problem with that, but most sensible people will look at it like an equivalent of other media collections, or something else they can relate to.

NFC figurines, alone or in their original boxes, have a certain in-your-face quality that's hard to directly explain, especially since you gotta keep them in usable state, and in some cases there are many of them. Consider a difference between having an "art of Street Fighter through the ages" book (no idea whether such thing exists or not) on your desk, and having a custom Street Fighter wallpaper all over your room. The fact you're a fan doesn't immediately mean you're comfortable with both. I'm not saying anything bad about those who can put up with the NFC mess - I think I could to some degree - but please understand that some people are more into gaming than into making their lives revolve around gaming. And the fact is custom wallpapers, pricey and visible as they are compared to figurines at least, aren't prerequisites for unlocking anything in your @#$%^&* game yet.

 

[ToothiestAura]

My only question is this:

How the heck will they make Mr. Game and Watch's trophy?

The same way he works in the game, a 3D model that is so thin it looks 2D.

 

[Moldy Clay]

The fact you're a fan doesn't immediately mean you're comfortable with both. I'm not saying anything bad about those who can put up with the NFC mess - I think I could to some degree - but please understand that some people are more into gaming than into making their lives revolve around gaming. And the fact is custom wallpapers, pricey and visible as they are compared to figurines at least, aren't prerequisites for unlocking anything in your @#$%^&* game yet.

The fact is, if you're embarrassed that you play video games, that's where it will root. If you are afraid of people knowing that you like something, then it is not even remotely feasible to continue where you're headed. Don't bring them over, not because you may or may not have Street Fighter bed sheets, but because you're not comfortable being yourself around them. If you're not going to be yourself, you're not going to be happy. This isn't even specific to games. This extends to music, anime, making models, whatever.

Your life doesn't have to revolve around gaming for it to be stupid to abandon and hide shreds of evidence that you enjoy them in any fashion.

As for your last comment, it's like you completely ignored the unspoilered part.

Pokemon Rumble U used NFC figures. They were not prerequisites to unlock those Pokemon in the game. They were in the game without having to buy the figures. The figures were an optional aspect to add to the experience.

And already the way Nintendo plans to use them is different from Disney or Activision, in that they only work with one game and upgrades of it, while the Nintendo figures are apparently going to work with virtually any type of game.

Even if it IS used as a method of unlocking, as opposed to the Rumble U route it'd be like this:

Say you bought a DLC character in (Super) Street Fighter IV. You could then use this character (and retain stats/wins/etc) in (Ultimate) Marvel vs. Capcom 3 and Street Fighter x Tekken. Hell, you could probably use them in Resident Evil as well. It'd be like buying DLC for all your future games.

BUT AGAIN- Nintendo has ALREADY used NFC and had it NOT lock out characters from use.

 

[Smashoperatingbuddy123]

hmmmm

game C looks interesting

maybe this is what sakurai mean't by transferring customaztion to the the wii u

but I really do think they save on the systems and theres another way to transfer over to each one

 

[abrinx77]

I'm not going to lie, I would buy the figurines anyway. It would be awesome if they could be used to save/transfer custom move-sets in Smash.

 

[Rich Homie Quan]

The only circumstance where I'd object to this is if these figurines are used to unlock characters and can only be unlocked by purchasing them.

 

[Morbi]

I'm not going to lie, I would buy the figurines anyway. It would be awesome if they could be used to save/transfer custom move-sets in Smash.

It would be pretty awesome; but at the same time, I feel as though they would need to do something bigger to justify the purchase. I mean; as it is, we should already be able to save our custom move-sets by default. So the transfer aspect isn't really worth the purchase.

 

[abrinx77]

It would be pretty awesome; but at the same time, I feel as though they would need to do something bigger to justify the purchase. I mean; as it is, we should already be able to save our custom move-sets by default. So the transfer aspect isn't really worth the purchase.

True enough. I think the figurines will get there moneys worth out of them in their transfer-ability across multiple titles, as has been stated in this thread. Using a Mario figurine for Smash move-sets, Mario Kart Times/Ghosts, Tennis/Golf stats, etc. I think it would be great if you could use these figurines to unlock characters in other games, like getting Kirby in Mario Kart, or Captain Falcon in a Star Fox game. Things like that would make the purchase more than justifiable. I'm also really curious to see what this figurine game they will be releasing is. That should be pretty exciting.

 

[Smashoperatingbuddy123]

The only circumstance where I'd object to this is if these figurines are used to unlock characters and can only be unlocked by purchasing them.

Oh don't be rediculious i really doubt they would so something like that

Besides if smash was involve i think its a lock on transfering move-sets to 3ds to wii u.
And probably for future games that involves crossover. Nintendo far more worth it than disney and skylanders if it invovles smash and other stuff

 

[κomıc]

I have a sinking feeling this will be used with Smash Bros at least in 2015. It'd be a great way to add totally new characters as DLC.

Not only do you get a cool figurine, you also unlock a new character to play in the game.

 

[Smashoperatingbuddy123]

Well if the figures are going to be involved of smash

Im definatly buying a ridley figured if.....or should i say when ridley is confirmed playable

 

[spader13]

I like the idea of them unlocking DLC characters as an alternative to just doing a download. I'd definitely pay extra to get the figurine with the character.

 

[9Volt]

The only circumstance where I'd object to this is if these figurines are used to unlock characters and can only be unlocked by purchasing them.

This....I am gonna buy all nintendo figures :x

 

[Rich Homie Quan]

Oh don't be rediculious i really doubt they would so something like that

Besides if smash was involve i think its a lock on transfering move-sets to 3ds to wii u.
And probably for future games that involves crossover. Nintendo far more worth it than disney and skylanders if it invovles smash and other stuff

I'm not suggesting they'd do it, I'm simply stating my thoughts on the possibility.

 

[Deleted member 245254]

I think these figures are an awesome idea!

...as long as they are not a necessity for any mode or feature of Sm4sh.

I don't mind Nintendo gettin' in on the figurine action, and it could even provide a nice set of collectibles for folks who are in to that kind of thing, but absolutely no way, and no how will I be happy if they are required to buy in order to unlock features of a game we're all already likely going to be paying a premium price for.

 

[Spazzy_D]

Game A looks like New Super Mario Bros U, Game B looks like Super Mario 3d World, and I don't know what Game C is.

Pretty sure it's Nintendoland. Not that it matters.

 

[.Lucina]

These, to me, seem like physical DLC for unlocking characters and storing data. Not just any DLC, but DLC for multiple games. Seeing as I'd buy online DLC anyway, the figurines are like an added bonus which isn't locked to a certain system.

 

[Halfhead]

On the subject of these toys interacting with the opposite sex, I promise: they won't.

 

[ChikoLad]

On the subject of these toys interacting with the opposite sex, I promise: they won't.

>"Opposite sex"

Are you implying everyone this site is of one sex? O_O

 

[Halfhead]

>"Opposite sex"

Are you implying everyone this site is of one sex? O_O

No, I meant the readers' opposite one.

 

[ChikoLad]

No, I meant the readers' opposite one.

...So you're saying nobody will buy the toys?

 

[Modesty]

Nah. Girls can be kinda nerdy and it's ok. Double standards.

Anyone can be "nerdy" and still get dates. It's about not being a complete basement dweller.


I'd dig an Olimar figure

 

[Aninymouse]

So here's how I think/hope it's gonna go down:

For Fighters

All characters announced in time for the 3DS version will be available in the game as normal (as well as unlockables). Both the Wii U Smash and the NFC figures launch this holiday season. So we will get figurines to go along with Smash (however, characters in the 3DS version by default will be in the Wii U version by default). We will get ones for at least some of the existing characters, and we will get a new character or two. These figures will be a vehicle for Nintendo DLC, including Smash. Instead of purchasing new characters digitally, you will purchase them as figures. Data for these characters will be added as patches, and the toys will be the keys.

But wait - the 3DS won't be able to use the NFC technology until sometime in the first half of 2015, because the 3DS does not have the NFC technology built in, and will require a peripheral to be developed. So what does that mean for any extra Smash characters released as figurines in time for the Wii U version?

They'll be timed exclusives for Wii U. Just to clarify, the data for these characters will not be present on the 3DS cart. They would be installed as patches when the 3DS peripheral is available. The developers are not holding these characters back from the 3DS version, they are literally creating extra characters AFTER the 3DS version is out. Extra DLC characters, essentially.

I know some people will say this is unfair, but 3DS owners will have Smash a couple of months early, so I feel like any argument that this is unfair goes out the window. It's a fair trade off - get the game a few months early (with exclusive features like Smash Run), but wait a few months extra for your version to be compatible with the new characters. This would be a great way to help the Wii U and it's version of Smash sell better. The existing 3DS fans will have a genuine reason to get a Wii U and it's version of Smash, brand new, over the holiday season.

Other Features

-Custom movesets could be stored on each figurine.
-When you clear Classic Mode with a character, you get their "Smash" trophy, where they are in their pose from the character select screen, and information about them as a Smash fighter will be displayed. When you clear All-Star Mode, you get the "Final Smash" trophy, like in Brawl. If you have a figurine of a character, you can scan it and receive a "Classic" trophy, and you get a trophy where they are in whatever pose they are in on the figurine, and information about their history is displayed.
-Smash Run equipment sets can be stored on each figurine.
-If the Wii U version has a robust single-player adventure with RPG elements like SSE and it's sticker system, customisation for that can be saved.
-A "Player Card" could be a common thing you could store on all of your figures, which has your NNID, your Mii, your record information, Global Smash Power, etc.

Justifying the price

So the most important thing, that makes or breaks this idea, is the price tag. We don't know how much they will be yet. But for the sake of discussion, Skylanders figurines on their own cost $8. So we will pretend they will cost this much.

I will view this as a justifiable price tag if many games support this NFC thing well. A big problem with Skylanders is that the toys are only compatible with Skylanders games, which are all of the same genre, and play overly similarly. Then you have Disney Infinity which, despite being FAR more impressive than Skylanders, and despite offering LittleBigPlanet-esque elements, and despite using actual beloved characters - it's only one game. So buying lots of these toys is a questionable practice, in terms of whether or not it's really worth it.

But Nintendo has mentioned that their toys will be compatible with multiple games of MULTIPLE GENRES. Which pushes up their worth a bunch if done right.

I'll use the Mario figurine as an example. Imagine if the Mario figurine could:

-Bank power-ups, lives, and coins that you can use across Super Mario 3D World, Super Mario 3D Land, NSMBU, and NSMB2 as you need to.
-Store customised kart data and time trial ghosts for Mario in Mario Kart 7 and Mario Kart 8.
-Store the information I described above in relation to Mario for Super Smash Bros. for Wii U/3DS.

If the figurines could work something like that (I'm using existing games and Smash as examples, I don't think these will actually be integrated much into their back catalog, if at all), they'd TOTALLY be worth $8, especially considering that, not only would they allow cross-purchasing and cross-compatibility features in Nintendo games for your own personal benefit at home, but also allow you to take this data to a friends house and use your data while playing with them. Plus, you get a pretty figurine of your favourite Nintendo character to put on your shelf when it's not in use! That altogether would be great value!

So yeah, that's what I hope these figurines will be used for. If Nintendo does this sort of thing, it would really help unify Wii U and 3DS as one platform, rather than one being "the Nintendo console" and one being "the Nintendo handheld". It would help Wii U sales a ton if done right, by bringing the 3DS install base onto the Wii U, and possibly more people beyond that.

Also, I believe buying Smash Wii U should net you a free figurine of a character of your choice.

Why hasn't Nintendo hired you yet? You made me want these NFC figures, and I don't even know if they'll be anything like you just said! I hope they're like you said.

 

[Smashoperatingbuddy123]

Well its confirmed these figures are indeed going to be used for smash brothers

http://www.gamerevolution.com/news/nfc-confirmed-for-smash-bros-wii-u-25965

 

[R0Y]

Oh god...I'm fine with this if it's not required content. If it's just a memory card for custom movesets, and maybe a quicker way (but not the only way) of unlocking a character or trophy, then okay.

 

[Modesty]

Well its confirmed these figures are indeed going to be used for smash brothers

http://www.gamerevolution.com/news/nfc-confirmed-for-smash-bros-wii-u-25965

As long as they are not required for any important gameplay, I am excited about this!

 

[Giga Man]

It is time.