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Takamaru and Ayumi are the top ones for meSo, if Smash were to include another retro style character like Ice Climbers or Pit, who would you choose?
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Takamaru and Ayumi are the top ones for meSo, if Smash were to include another retro style character like Ice Climbers or Pit, who would you choose?
I feel like Pit's redesign was kind of a special case but I'm pretty sure Takamaru would get at least more details in his design if he were to be made into a fighter in Smash, probably similar to his Samurai Warriors 3 appearance without being as realistic.Do you think Takamaru (or other retro first party character) would get a big redesign like they did with Pit or do you think they’d try to stick as close as possible to their original design? Which would you prefer?
For me, it would be Takamaru, then Mach Rider, and then Muddy Mole rounding out a top three.So, if Smash were to include another retro style character like Ice Climbers or Pit, who would you choose?
I can see that happening in some cases where a character is well-known internationally but their origin game isn't available internationally (say, Saber from Fate/stay night) but overall, I don't think so.I wonder if Sakurai will ever go back on that rule of 'No Japan-only characters'...
Hope I'm understanding this correctly, but... that's a rule? I feel like Banjo, Steve, and (to a lesser extent) Diddy/K. Rool/Dark Samus killed that.I wonder if Sakurai will ever go back on that rule of 'No Japan-only characters'...
I think you misread the post. It's talking about characters like Lucas who never had their game release outside of Japan.Hope I'm understanding this correctly, but... that's a rule? I feel like Banjo, Steve, and (to a lesser extent) Diddy/K. Rool/Dark Samus killed that.
None of those characters are Japan-only, though.Hope I'm understanding this correctly, but... that's a rule? I feel like Banjo, Steve, and (to a lesser extent) Diddy/K. Rool/Dark Samus killed that.
Oh, my mistake. Thanks for the correction.I think you misread the post. It's talking about characters like Lucas who never had their game release outside of Japan.
As a fan of those games i can safetly say i have no idea how you could make a moveset for Ayumi. Back in Melee i get it because back then they just kinda made **** up for movesets but nowadays smash newcomers are designed to be accurate to the source material.Ayumi Tachibana does have the FDC Switch remakes which got a worldwide release now in her favor too
been meaning to play those...
I wonder if that rule would apply to a series that was released in English but not given a worldwide release.I think you misread the post. It's talking about characters like Lucas who never had their game release outside of Japan.
maybe inspire her off Phoenix Wright's set in Ultimate Marvel vs Capcom 3? with a few twists relevant to herAs a fan of those games i can safetly say i have no idea how you could make a moveset for Ayumi. Back in Melee i get it because back then they just kinda made **** up for movesets but nowadays smash newcomers are designed to be accurate to the source material.
She's not even the character you play as in these games lol
I wonder if that rule would apply to a series that was released in English but not given a worldwide release.
Like StarTropics? I'd be down with Mike Jones. Plus I'd love the music... One my my favorite nes tracks:I wonder if that rule would apply to a series that was released in English but not given a worldwide release.
Who’s even left that’s Japan only and could be put in Smash? I was gonna say Reimu, but TIL there is Touhou on Switch. In English.I wonder if Sakurai will ever go back on that rule of 'No Japan-only characters'...
tbf it IS mostly "doujin" games, but there is one official game that's one of the fighter spinoffs that ZUN himself produced. forgot the name of it thoWho’s even left that’s Japan only and could be put in Smash? I was gonna say Reimu, but TIL there is Touhou on Switch.
the rest of the mother 3 castWho’s even left that’s Japan only and could be put in Smash? I was gonna say Reimu, but TIL there is Touhou on Switch. In English.
If this was Melee, I could see her having a moveset that uses variations of Peach and Zelda’s moves, not unlike an existing mod.As a fan of those games i can safetly say i have no idea how you could make a moveset for Ayumi. Back in Melee i get it because back then they just kinda made **** up for movesets but nowadays smash newcomers are designed to be accurate to the source material.
She's not even the character you play as in these games lol
Assuming NES/FDS only? Takamaru or Ayumi Tachibana.So, if Smash were to include another retro style character like Ice Climbers or Pit, who would you choose?
Actually there are two touhou spinoff games on switch. The one you mentioned is touhou 15.5 antinomy of common flowers which is a fighting game, and there is touhou 17.5 sunken fossil world which is more of a 2d boss rush game.tbf it IS mostly "doujin" games, but there is one official game that's one of the fighter spinoffs that ZUN himself produced. forgot the name of it tho
Hayabusa is probably too normal to be considered just a retro character, so I'd say Excitebiker or Mach Rider. The motorcycles just have so much cool moveset and movement potential. I imagine they'd be instant top tiers with that speed ngl.So, if Smash were to include another retro style character like Ice Climbers or Pit, who would you choose?
i hope notBy the way, could the GameCube be considered retro at this point?
Wrecking Crew's Foreman Spike. Make a moveset based off the idea that hes this one man demolition crew. And because of the Mario movie he exists in the public consciousness.So, if Smash were to include another retro style character like Ice Climbers or Pit, who would you choose?
Ayumi Tachibana since the remakes are out in the west and having a normal school girl fighting is a funny idea. Plus she learns aikidoSo, if Smash were to include another retro style character like Ice Climbers or Pit, who would you choose?
Yeah... Just looking at the Melee clip above it's like wow haha what a difference, it's as stark audibly and visually as other leaps from new to retro like nes to playstation, atari to nes... 64 to ps2, playstation to GameCube.. Um.. but yeah retro is anything that stands out to you as being starkly different, though broadly speaking.Assuming NES/FDS only? Takamaru or Ayumi Tachibana.
If we expand the definition to include SNES/SFC and Game Boy? Lip or the Sable Prince.
By the way, could the GameCube be considered retro at this point?
Yes?What do you guys think of those recent Nintendo console rumours of a new console supposedly releasing late 2024?
Are those rumors credible?What do you guys think of those recent Nintendo console rumours of a new console supposedly releasing late 2024?
I think it's interesting that they're not releasing it early in the year like the Switch did. We'll see it when we see it.What do you guys think of those recent Nintendo console rumours of a new console supposedly releasing late 2024?
If we're talking just NES/FDS I'd probably say Takamaru is the most likely. However, I'd like Muddy Mole because he's just a fun little guy and expanding outside of the NES/FDS would be good for retro inclusions. Lip from Panel de Pon could work but I would prefer a Panel de Pon stage as the Mii Costume/Item does her enough justice I thinkSo, if Smash were to include another retro style character like Ice Climbers or Pit, who would you choose?
He's not Japan-only but I think Takamaru is still going to be treated as if he were, considering his western appearances are pretty minor or low-profile. I don't think the VC has ever really counted for much, Smash-wise.Who’s even left that’s Japan only and could be put in Smash? I was gonna say Reimu, but TIL there is Touhou on Switch. In English.
Sure. Not by Smash standards, but by actual standards, yeah.By the way, could the GameCube be considered retro at this point?
Even without the rumors that's a very likely outcome. I would be shocked in the next thing didn't come out next year.What do you guys think of those recent Nintendo console rumours of a new console supposedly releasing late 2024?
Y’all remember when people legitimately had no idea if Yoshi was gonna be in Smash 4 and were worried pic.twitter.com/fwZwHecSht
— No Context Super Mario (@SuperMarioOOC85) August 2, 2023
I actually spoke about this in response to a tweet below regarding the ESRB leak, but speaking of Smash 4? I absolutely HATED (and will NEVER forgive) how that leak pretty much revealed nearly EVERYTHING that Smash 4 had to offer us.Man, this was such a weird time.Y’all remember when people legitimately had no idea if Yoshi was gonna be in Smash 4 and were worried pic.twitter.com/fwZwHecSht
— No Context Super Mario (@SuperMarioOOC85) August 2, 2023
Honestly, it depends on the character and there are good arguments for both sides.I was just curious if we could get some kind of consensus on how important it is for everyone for Smash character’s moveset to be faithful to their source material. I think there is merit to both sides. My personal view is that I’d prefer them to try to remain as faithful as possible to a character’s source game in moves and mechanics as long as it still results in a moveset that’s fun to play and at least somewhat balanced. It’s totally fine to me if some mechanics have to be simplified to work in Smash but I’d always like to see at least some reference to them. Others might not care so much as long as the moveset is fun and at least captures the general feel of the character without worrying about pulling specific moves from their games. There’s no right or wrong answer here since it all comes down to your personal preference but I’m curious where everyone stands on this.