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Official Next Smash - Speculation & Discussion Thread
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Good point. Still, I can see Sub-Zero riding a wave of ice or Scorpion using his rope like weapon to grab ledges like Joker’s grappling hook as recoveries.
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My idea for Sub-Zero’s Up B is his ice clone from Mortal Kombat 3. Basically, he’d leap into the air and leave a clone behind where he started the move, freezing anyone it touches. The clone would disappear after a short while or if he uses the move again to make a new clone.
The jump would just have to be a bit higher with more directional control to function as a recovery but the fundamentals for a recovery are there. Something around the distance of Captain Falcon’s recovery could work.
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DarthEnderX
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Or get an Echo that does so.
I’d personally love to see an echo of Olimar use the Rock and Ice Pikmins, even if the former are not in Pikmin 4.
Dude that's brilliant!My idea for Sub-Zero’s Up B is his ice clone from Mortal Kombat 3. Basically, he’d leap into the air and leave a clone behind where he started the move, freezing anyone it touches. The clone would disappear after a short while or if he uses the move again to make a new clone.
The jump would just have to be a bit higher with more directional control to function as a recovery but the fundamentals for a recovery are there. Something around the distance of Captain Falcon’s recovery could work.
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In regards to the Sub-Zero freezing, I think I may have a solution:
From the looks of it, Sub-Zero's freezing in MK is effectively equivalent to Smash's bury mechanics. So what if in the air freezing acts normally, but on the ground it's like a reskinned bury?
From the looks of it, Sub-Zero's freezing in MK is effectively equivalent to Smash's bury mechanics. So what if in the air freezing acts normally, but on the ground it's like a reskinned bury?
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That’s not a bad idea. I could see them going for something like that as a compromise between the two games’ mechanics. Zero Suit Samus’ blaster also freezes characters in place similar to Sub-Zero’s ice but for a shorter time.
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We definitely have enough Pikmin species for an echo to work.
RealLuigisWearPink
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I was so pissed when the gameboy dreamland stage was just Kirby. That really should've shown off more Gameboy games.
Laniv
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But Oatchi (the dog's name) is definitely going to be at least an Assist Trophy, right?
Rip Rock Pikmin, no room for you on the cover, even though there's clearly a spot next to the White Pikmin which also would've made things more symmetrical
Gonna have to make due with the full art
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Oatchi will be the new Pikmin playable character. To prepare for the match of the century against the new Yoshi playable character, Poochy.
don’t forget duck hunt duo
Dan Quixote
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Okay but too be fair more quadruped fighters in Smash would be based
chocolatejr9
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You joke, but playable Poochy would be cool, NGL.
Unrelated to current discussion, but it looks like the Microsoft-ActiBlizz buyout is taking an interesting turn:
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I'll admit, I'm not ENTIRELY sure how this will play out, but FWIW ActiBlizz hasn't put THAT many games on Nintendo platforms as of late, so the outcome of the buyout isn't likely to affect the Big N in any meaningful way. Worst case scenario is that Crash's chances for Smash drop down a bit.
Wait, Nintendo wanted to buy Activision-Blizzard too?
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No, if what I read is right, Microsoft is essentially asking Nintendo to give their support to the buyout and convince the FTC that things will be fine.
Oh, makes sense. Still, I did not think Nintendo would be interested in the company, but I did not fully understand.
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Makes sense, but ATs are hard to predict. Pikmin may not even get another. It took three games for DK to get one... and it was Klaptrap.
Jokes on you, that thing only has two legs
No, this is just to get Nintendo to testify, disclosing whatever info Microsoft anticipates will be beneficial for them acquiring A-B, presumably insofar as it supports the narrative that the purchase wouldn't harm competitors.
Which I guess makes sense, since losing A-B support wouldn't harm Nintendo very much, even if MS hadn't pledged to keep some A-B titles multiplat, and bring CoD to Nintendo's platform.
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Still, do you think Nintendo would actually testify?
Makes sense, but ATs are hard to predict. Pikmin may not even get another. It took three games for DK to get one... and it was Klaptrap.
Jokes on you, that thing only has two legs
No, this is just to get Nintendo to testify, disclosing whatever info Microsoft anticipates will be beneficial for them acquiring A-B, presumably insofar as it supports the narrative that the purchase wouldn't harm competitors.
Which I guess makes sense, since losing A-B support wouldn't harm Nintendo very much, even if MS hadn't pledged to keep some A-B titles multiplat, and bring CoD to Nintendo's platform.
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If they've been subpoenaed they have to, legally.
Dan Quixote
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Pikmin creature designs are always so subtly creepy
smashkirby
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Hey, does anyone know what the deal is with Fashion Dreamer? Like, it seems to reuse so many Style Savvy assets, yet it's being marketed as a whole new series?
What's more, synSophia (Style Savvy's usual developer) is apparently responsible for F.D.. So... what's going on?
What's more, synSophia (Style Savvy's usual developer) is apparently responsible for F.D.. So... what's going on?
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They also assisted in the development for various WWE games and the Def Jam series.
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Well it's not a Nintendo IP, that's for sure. Maybe synSophia needed the money, but Nintendo wasn't interested in a new Style Savvy? How well have those games done in the past?
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If it's by synSophia, they probably couldn't get the greenlight from Nintendo, so they went to another publisher to invest. But they have to use a different name because Nintendo owns the rights to Style Savvy.
In the Direct trailer, Marvelous is indicated as the copyright, while the Direct also names Xseed Games, which is apparently a subsidiary of Marvelous. Nintendo's official website lists "Marvelous (XSEED)" as the publisher (I'm using the US version of the site).
Both of the following two places list syn Sophia as a developer, but it's not evident to me where they got the info from:
Fashion Dreamer announced for Switch
Marvelous, XSEED Games, and Style Savvy developer Syn Sophia unveiled Fashion Dreamer for Switch. This new title is set to release later in 2023. Fashion Dreamer takes players to the virtual world of Eve, where fashion fantasies are made real and anyone can become the ultimate trendsetter. Read...
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I don't read Japanese, but on syn Sophia's official JP site, you can see that they recently retweeted a bunch of Fashion Dreamer stuff.
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In conclusion, yeah it seems that syn Sophia was looking to make another Style Savvy but either wanted or had to get a publisher other than Nintendo, unfortunately.
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DarthEnderX
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They probably just want Nintendo to go on record and say, "All that monopoly stuff Sony is accusing MS of? Yeah, Sony did that to US."
I do remember saying someone sued Microsoft to try and stop the buyout, but I forgot who it was. Did it have anything to do with Sony, by any chance?
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Scorpion has a Summersault kick that, even though he doesn't go up into the air, he could use as a recovery for Smash.
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Mamboo07
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Yes, I want animal/creature fighters.
Speaking of...
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Know what? Decidueye is overrated. I would've taken Rowlet alongside Incineroar just for how dang cute the former is.
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Just split the difference and add in Dartrix instead, therefor
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At that point, may as well throw in Popplio and call it "Alolan Pokemon Trainer".
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I would've chosen Sceptile if I wanted a Grass starter rep. For one, we'd finally get Gen 3 representation, for another, his design is so bada**.
smashkirby
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Funny thing is, I remember "Style Savvy 5" being reported as initially developed for 3DS, and later having its development move to the Switch. I wonder if halfway through, syn Sophia was told Nintendo didn't want to continue...
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Hmm, so supposedly this is an insider from two years ago in regards to Metroid Prime Remastered and Metroid Prime 4.
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-So Retro was doing something after Tropical Freeze before it got cancelled and Nintendo asked them to remake the Metroid Prime Trilogy from the ground up.
-Eventually, Nintendo of Japan became concerned about Namco's work on Prime 4, and in particular the level design for Prime 4 and had some of the art team from Retro Studios to go and help the Namco team with Prime 4. During this time, Retro still had enough team to continue on the Prime Trilogy remake.
-After the Retro Studios artists apparently nailed it out of the park with their designs for both Metroid Prime 4 and the Metroid Trilogy remake, NoJ became convinced Retro Studios should absolutely be the one to work on Metroid Prime 4 and cancelled the stuff from Namco to reboot the project with Retro and Tanabe working together again.
-As a result, with Retro focusing on both Prime 4 and Prime Trilogy remake, Retro could only have enough people to work on Prime 1 Remastered while the rest were working with Prime 4. So the idea appears to be that Retro would finish up with the first Prime Remaster and Nintendo would outsource Prime 2 and 3 to one or two other studios using Prime 1 Remaster as the establishment in visuals and style for them to emulate.
It's not so much a leak as it's more what the guy heard what happened with Retro, NoJ and Namco regarding Prime Trilogy Remake and Metroid Prime 4 with a bit of his own speculation near the end(like thinking it will be full price when this turned out not to be the case), but that said, it does provide a base on what Retro had possibly been doing since Tropical Freeze. In a summary, Tropical Freeze -> Project that got cancelled -> Metroid Prime Trilogy Remake -> Metroid Prime 4 and only enough to focus on remastering Metroid Prime 1.
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-So Retro was doing something after Tropical Freeze before it got cancelled and Nintendo asked them to remake the Metroid Prime Trilogy from the ground up.
-Eventually, Nintendo of Japan became concerned about Namco's work on Prime 4, and in particular the level design for Prime 4 and had some of the art team from Retro Studios to go and help the Namco team with Prime 4. During this time, Retro still had enough team to continue on the Prime Trilogy remake.
-After the Retro Studios artists apparently nailed it out of the park with their designs for both Metroid Prime 4 and the Metroid Trilogy remake, NoJ became convinced Retro Studios should absolutely be the one to work on Metroid Prime 4 and cancelled the stuff from Namco to reboot the project with Retro and Tanabe working together again.
-As a result, with Retro focusing on both Prime 4 and Prime Trilogy remake, Retro could only have enough people to work on Prime 1 Remastered while the rest were working with Prime 4. So the idea appears to be that Retro would finish up with the first Prime Remaster and Nintendo would outsource Prime 2 and 3 to one or two other studios using Prime 1 Remaster as the establishment in visuals and style for them to emulate.
It's not so much a leak as it's more what the guy heard what happened with Retro, NoJ and Namco regarding Prime Trilogy Remake and Metroid Prime 4 with a bit of his own speculation near the end(like thinking it will be full price when this turned out not to be the case), but that said, it does provide a base on what Retro had possibly been doing since Tropical Freeze. In a summary, Tropical Freeze -> Project that got cancelled -> Metroid Prime Trilogy Remake -> Metroid Prime 4 and only enough to focus on remastering Metroid Prime 1.
RealLuigisWearPink
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Funnily enough it wouldn't be the first time Nintendo ****ed that particular company over
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