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Pretty sure literally every character could infinity jump in Kirby Star Allies so
Shouldn't that just be his Up B? I mean, I imagine it would work similarly to how Dixie Kong and Tails from Sonic would "recover" in Smash.Would probably depend on whether or not they were including the Waddle Copter:
I assume BWD would also have some beam attacks to represent the super similar Waddle Doos.
The only game am certain of is gonna effect the next Smash is the sequel to Breath of the Wild. At the very least, I do expect Zelda to have some moveset differences due to this game. Newcomers I can't tell yet of course.
Really difficult to say - then again, upgrading from HD to 4K / 8K territory might not be in Nintendo's best interests for the next console generation. If they wanted they could work up to 1440p (the middle ground between HD / 4K) and go from there really. Not a huge jump, but it would still be rather noticeable on a large TV. If Nintendo decides that not enough people have 4K / 8K TVs to begin with, they're in a similar situation as they were in during the Wii era - when HD TVs were publicly sold, but were not yet in enough peoples' homes for Nintendo to feel confident. So I could honestly see a situation where they don't upgrade the graphics that much but instead focus a bit more on performance.
I'm not entirely sure why they had Brawl Zelda transform into Sheik, might be due to Sheik's relative popularity back in Melee + some of their aspects not working as intended and them wanting to fix that with Brawl. Lets look at Sheik's Melee Adventure trophy:
The intent with the design was to have Sheik be the
of the couple and Zelda be the (to simplify). Which makes quite a lot of sense on an intuitive level - but could pose some design problems if they were to implement Toon Zelda and include Tetra / Toon Sheik (might've been a key reason why she was dropped).Turned out to not be the case in Melee (likely due to time constraints meaning they couldn't entirely playtest), which severely undermined Zelda or the need to transform: Sheik's F-Air is an infamous test case since it was a semi-spike bitchslap of death. Sakurai and co. intentionally nerfed it in Brawl, then repurposed it entirely into a combo move by the time 4 came around (in favor of introducing Bouncing Fish and turning the Smash attacks into the kill moves).
and / in this regard. Those designs make sure to actively encourage switching because the character strengths / weaknesses are consequential yet not overbearing: PT allieviates possible barriers by having some overlapping strengths (Ivy and Zard can both kill reliably, Squirtle and Zard can react very well to opponents' actions, Squirtle and Ivy have both good grabs and advantage), Aegis have the least barriers due to being semi-clones, Sure, there are and will be people that stick to one form, but still.That doesn't look too much different from sayWould probably depend on whether or not they were including the Waddle Copter:
's Mach Tornado - which travels a lot horizontally and can get some vertical distance via mashing, but renders him helpless after and can bounce off of edges if one is not careful - so it should be fine. Sure, it has quite a lot of coverage and could be difficult to intercept (except from the side, akin to K Rool's Copter) but I could certainly see BWD having multiple midair jumps + the Copter.
Great to have this kind of indebt conversations again, always love them.Really difficult to say - then again, upgrading from HD to 4K / 8K territory might not be in Nintendo's best interests for the next console generation. If they wanted they could work up to 1440p (the middle ground between HD / 4K) and go from there really. Not a huge jump, but it would still be rather noticeable on a large TV. If Nintendo decides that not enough people have 4K / 8K TVs to begin with, they're in a similar situation as they were in during the Wii era - when HD TVs were publicly sold, but were not yet in enough peoples' homes for Nintendo to feel confident. So I could honestly see a situation where they don't upgrade the graphics that much but instead focus a bit more on performance.
I'm not entirely sure why they had Brawl Zelda transform into Sheik, might be due to Sheik's relative popularity back in Melee + some of their aspects not working as intended and them wanting to fix that with Brawl. Lets look at Sheik's Melee Adventure trophy:
The intent with the design was to have Sheik be the
The main problem with that though is that Sheik / Zelda are diametrically opposed: a person who does intuitively well with Sheik or Zelda is not likely to do well at all with the other since their strengths require effectively two different mindsets. Also, this:
Turned out to not be the case in Melee (likely due to time constraints meaning they couldn't entirely playtest), which severely undermined Zelda or the need to transform: Sheik's F-Air is an infamous test case since it was a semi-spike bitchslap of death. Sakurai and co. intentionally nerfed it in Brawl, then repurposed it entirely into a combo move by the time 4 came around (in favor of introducing Bouncing Fish and turning the Smash attacks into the kill moves).
Didn't help that Melee / Brawl Zelda and Brawl PT had some character-specific jank that harmed them: Zelda's incredibly unreliable finishers in Melee and Brawl - an area she was supposed to excel in according to her Melee trophies - Sheik likewise had that same weakness in Brawl, Ivysaur's weakness to fire in Brawl, character swap being slow in Melee and incredibly slow in Brawl.
Think that decision to split Sheik from Zelda came around because it's really difficult to design a transforming character in a way to encourage people to actually switch between the forms and not just stick with one over the other. Now this is not a Smash-exclusive problem in the slightest, but it is relevant to Smash since 4 was also the game where Zard went solo and PT was nowhere to be seen. So I'm feeling decently confident saying that's one reason. And it wasn't until Ultimate where they found solutions that would at least minimize the problem.
While no solution is ever going to be perfect, I should take this moment to commend Sakurai and co. on how they handled
That doesn't look too much different from say
Smash 4: Sakurai planned the roster back in early 2012, right after Kid Icarus Uprising. DKCR was the most relevant DK game at the time and it cut the playable cast down to just DK and Diddy. He probably just didn't know about Tropical Freeze at the time.
I like how you didn't even bother with the other mons' type effectivenesses since they weren't as noticeable.
Were there literally ANY other grass or water moves in that game?
Squirtle had a electric weakness too if I recall? Certainly didn't do his matchup against Pikachu well.
Yeah I was aware. Returns was a great game but didn't do the DKC cast any favors.... But I guess one could say that DK and Diddy themselves where the best in Smash 4 compared to all other versions of themselves in Smash.
The move Chikorita uses as a Poke Ball is, surprisingly, not one. It's counted as a "Slash" attack.
Brawl only acknowledged which starter types the PT trio was strong/weak against.
In terms of water attacks, there was also Mario's FLUDD and the SSE's Hydro Jyks, but there weren't any other grass attacks.
...which doesn't deal damage. So Charizard barely has any chances to show that it's weak to water. The whole fire-types-and-Sonic-drown-faster thing wasn't even a thing until Ultimate.
Type effectiveness affected knockback, not damage, so it technically would matter in terms of FLUDD (but only just barely, so yeah...)
Yes, type effectiveness meant that Ivy also had a water resistance... but a third of the Brawl cast (slight edit due to initially misreading the context) had KO-worthy fire moves and could kill Ivy with them sooner than Squirtle* (and a whole host of items, Subspace enemies and stage hazards had fire on top). The weakness meant a 1.1X knockback increase, resistance was 0.9X (or a 10 % knockback reduction) FTR.
10 seconds is enough for them to show him as the only playable Player 2 thus far and, more importantly, the first one they show over King Dedede or Metaknight (who seems to be an enemy again?) or pretty much anyone else. Y'all need to stop sneezing on how important this character is to the series.
Welp...
I'm not entirely sure why they had Brawl Zelda transform into Sheik, might be due to Sheik's relative popularity back in Melee + some of their aspects not working as intended and them wanting to fix that with Brawl. Lets look at Sheik's Melee Adventure trophy:
The intent with the design was to have Sheik be the
The main problem with that though is that Sheik / Zelda are diametrically opposed: a person who does intuitively well with Sheik or Zelda is not likely to do well at all with the other since their strengths require effectively two different mindsets. Also, this:
Turned out to not be the case in Melee (likely due to time constraints meaning they couldn't entirely playtest), which severely undermined Zelda or the need to transform: Sheik's F-Air is an infamous test case since it was a semi-spike bitchslap of death. Sakurai and co. intentionally nerfed it in Brawl, then repurposed it entirely into a combo move by the time 4 came around (in favor of introducing Bouncing Fish and turning the Smash attacks into the kill moves).
Didn't help that Melee / Brawl Zelda and Brawl PT had some character-specific jank that harmed them: Zelda's incredibly unreliable finishers in Melee and Brawl - an area she was supposed to excel in according to her Melee trophies - Sheik likewise had that same weakness in Brawl, Ivysaur's weakness to fire in Brawl, character swap being slow in Melee and incredibly slow in Brawl.
Think that decision to split Sheik from Zelda came around because it's really difficult to design a transforming character in a way to encourage people to actually switch between the forms and not just stick with one over the other. Now this is not a Smash-exclusive problem in the slightest, but it is relevant to Smash since 4 was also the game where Zard went solo and PT was nowhere to be seen. So I'm feeling decently confident saying that's one reason. And it wasn't until Ultimate where they found solutions that would at least minimize the problem.
While no solution is ever going to be perfect, I should take this moment to commend Sakurai and co. on how they handled
Maybe it's because I'm not too into high-level play (and want better single-player more than anything), but honestly, when it comes to transformation characters, I prefer to view each individual piece rather than the whole. Like, the transformation can work well, but it's ultimately optional. Whether you cycle between all the transformations, or just solo one of them, either style can be perfectly viable (and it's one reason I'm glad that Ultimate ditched the stamina mechanic).
Incidentally, there are more water options now with the likes of Greninja and Corrin. However, we've also gotten WAY more fire-based attacks than there already were back in Brawl (funny to think that Roy was cut at the time), and anything that could potentially count as Grass outside of Ivysaur itself (and maybe Villager's Timber) is still pretty much non-existant, so it is for the best that this type gimmick was ditched.
I think an fps rep is almost guranteed for the next game though im leaning towards doomslayer however if his guns are too realistic to be in smash than i think sakurai would choose chief over doonslayer
So you can only do damage to the character in a single direction?
A bit tame, give him a permanent Back Shield and it's perfect.
I mean, it's neat, but it's a Brawl mod, it's not really anything new per-se. Brawl mods have added in dozens if not hundreds of characters at this point.
Pretty sure people are... I definitely remember providing the link when the video was new... But even still, when his videos get millions of views apiece for Brawl mods when most others are pretty much ignored unless they're aware of it specifically, I'm pretty sure a surprising amount of people know about it.
Wait, Fire Emblem Echoes ?! I wanna see that !
I thought it would be clear from context that I was referring to the people who have been talking about potential moves for BWD in the past two or three pages.
Speaking as someone who's been a proponent for King Boo since Smash 4, this sounds incredibly broken.
They REALLY need to announce it already. It's basically an open secret at this point.
Poyo poyo.
Adeleine?
