Next Gen Ideas (Wii've hit 10,000 views, although wii're technically dead)

[MysticKenji]

What do you mean by appearance difference?

 

[Wii4Mii 99]

What do you mean by appearance difference?

Depending on it's appearence, it will either evolve into Diamerpent or Perlerpent. Kinda like Shellos and Gastrodon, although despite their difference in appearence, they're the exact same battle-wise.

Until wii meet again,
Wii4Mii 99

 

[Terywj [태리]]

This seems like a desperate attempt to keep this thread alive...

Yeah the Next Gen threads have been pretty cold lately huh?

Psyghoul
Psychic/Ghost
Levitate/Unburden?
HP-80
Atk-80
Def-80
Sp Atk-140
Sp Def-100
Spd-80
BST-560

 

[Wii4Mii 99]

Yeah the Next Gen threads have been pretty cold lately huh?

Psyghoul
Psychic/Ghost
Levitate
HP-80
Atk-110
Def-80
Sp Atk-110
Sp Def-100
Spd-80
BST-560

Yeah... It's a sad sight, isn't it? Maybe wii're running out of ideas.

I think Psyghoul should be special oriented. You know, since it's STAB attacks, Psychic and Shadow Ball, are special (of course, it could also have Psycho Cut and Shadow Claw).

Until wii meet again,
Wii4Mii 99

 

[mood4food77]

Jynx->Modellura
Mr. Mime->Eldmime
Sudowoodo->???

Now, about Luvdisc...hows about:
Luvdisc-Evolves @ max happiness->Heartisc
-Evolves @ max hatred->Malisc

sudowoodo-sacribido

and the luvdisc evos NEED AN ITEM TO EVOLVE BY THOSE METHODS

how many times must i say it, it will need an item to help it evolve, or a move, or a new location in which it reacts

it can't just randomly evolve by happiness/hatred now

which is why i suggested love scale and hate scale which do nothing but help a poke love/hate

teh only difference between the two is that the hate scale will turn all things that make a poke happy into stuff that makes a poke mad (so basically, you're making him hate you no matter what)

 

[Terywj [태리]]

Yeah... It's a sad sight, isn't it? Maybe wii're running out of ideas.

I think Psyghoul should be special oriented. You know, since it's STAB attacks, Psychic and Shadow Ball, are special (of course, it could also have Psycho Cut and Shadow Claw).

Until wii meet again,
Wii4Mii 99

Made some edits...

 

[MysticKenji]

Give Psyghoul another ability besides Levitate, plz.

 

[Terywj [태리]]

Yeah the Next Gen threads have been pretty cold lately huh?

Psyghoul
Psychic/Ghost
Levitate/Unburden?
HP-80
Atk-80
Def-80
Sp Atk-140
Sp Def-100
Spd-80
BST-560

How about that??

...and while I'm at it...
We need moar Firez!

 

[mood4food77]

what new metagame should there be?

i really can't think of anything besides adding another type and/or make it so each poke has 2 abilities, a physical and a special one

and example of this would be giratina (dragon/ghost) ability is pressure, next gen he'll also obtain levitate because he has wings, bringing him off the ground

magneton would also gain levitate for floating

 

[Wii4Mii 99]

Does anyone think there should be a new type called Light?

Also, you know how Steel is a good defensive type but bad offensive type? There should be a type that is just the opposite. Just make sure the Pokemon with this offensive type arn't too overpowering stat-wise.

Until wii meet again,
Wii4Mii 99

 

[mood4food77]

ice is pretty much that type

it hits the most types for SE (including type comboes, it his 34 types for SE, rock comes in 2nd with 33)

light to me seems like the only logical choice

others i've heard of

magic-too close to psychic
smoke-fire and smoke are hand in hand pretty much
wind-sub set of flying..sorta, 2nd best choice

but light does not have any interference with other types we have so far, it's a completely new type

 

[MysticKenji]

New type = New IV formula = No cross gen trading
So no.

 

[mood4food77]

why new IV formula

and haven't you noticed there's only 1 gen per handheld system

also, with GSC, they added 2 types and you were still able to cross gen trade with RBY

 

[Wii4Mii 99]

New type = New IV formula = No cross gen trading
So no.

...Fine...

I'm pretty sure an Electric/Ice type has been made, but would Elecsicle work? (Electric + Icicle) (It's a name)

Until wii meet again,
Wii4Mii 99

 

[Terywj [태리]]

I don't think one has been made...and Elecsicle sounds good.

Should there be a Fire/Water?

Or how about a Fire/Psychic?

Magvolt (Fire/Electric) speaks for itself.

-Terywj...ou <Keyboard not connected. Press F1 to continue.>

 

[MysticKenji]

After doing research, I determined that the light-type is now acceptable.

My bad.

So, I guess Pureon is a Light-type now...?

 

[Terywj [태리]]

I'm believing so.
Wait...
Eevee-Normal
Vaporeon-Water
Jolteon-Electric
Flareon-Fire
Espeon-Psychic
Umbreon-Dark
Leafeon-Grass
Glaceon-Ice
Pureon-Light
Atroceon-???

 

[mood4food77]

drakeon-dragon

then that's all the special things

but then we cna go physical with

gouleon-ghost
metaleon-steel
flytroneon-flying
acibeon-poison
eartineon-ground
bouldereon-rock
fisteon-fighting
wizzereon-bug

that covers every type

i made an electric/ice poke, a fire/psychic poke, and a fire/water poke...long time ago

 

[Terywj [태리]]

and how do you EXPECT to EVOLVE each and every one of the 9 new evolutions??

 

[mood4food77]

ummm

trade evo two of them

eevee-trade with bird wing-flytroneon
eevee-trade with metal wheel-metaleon

then we could do move evo's

eevee-level up with shadow sneak-gouleon
eevee-level up with hammer arm-fisteon

then, level up with held item

eevee-level up with bug eye-wizzereon
eevee-level up with poison pen-acibeon

then, hatred evos

eevee-max hate w/dirt ball-eartineon
eevee-max hate w/little boulder-bouldereon

all done

 

[MysticKenji]

No physical Eeveelutions.
Oh, and it's DRAKEON not drackoneon

 

[mood4food77]

just saying that eevee could evolve into every type if it wanted to

but anyways, what metagame change could there be

GSC added holding items and breeding, also split special into attack and defense
RSE added natures
DP gave physical/special moves, not depending on type
so..what about next gen?

 

[Wii4Mii 99]

I've thought about this for a while, but it'd probably be too sophisticated. I'll just throw it out there, though.

How about the stuff in the PokeDex actually does something? For example, according to Pearl's PokeDex entry on Garchomp, "It never allows it's prey to escape". So, to make this become a reality, Garchomp technically gets the Shadow Tag ability (I know. Broken).

Another example is Infernape. "It is beaten by none in terms of speed". So, when battling, Infernape ALWAYS goes first.

Now, I know many of these... things... would be broken, especially on more powerful Pokemon like the aforementioned two. BUT. When battling someone else, you can CHOOSE to turn them off on each Pokemon in your team.

Yay or nay? I can give you more examples if you are puzzled.

Happy Thanksgiving!
Wii4Mii 99

Edit: While I'm at it, I may as well post the type dis/advantages of the new type, Light.

Offensively
Light is SE against Normal. Just because.
Light is NVE against Fire. Does this make sense?
Light is SE against Grass. Too much Light can cause a fire. But then again, plants need light...
Light is NVE against Electric. Does this make sense, too?
Light is SE against Ice. Light / warmth can make ice melt.
Light does not effect Ground. Duh.
Light is SE against Ghost Ghosts don't like to be seen.
Light does not effect Dark. Light and Dark are nemesises.

SE against 4.
NVE against 2.
Doesn't effect 2.

Defensively
Fire, Electric, and Water are NVE against Light.
Rock and Ground are SE against Light. And possibly Psychic.
Dark does not effect Light. Like I said. Nemesises.

SE by 2.
NVE by 3.
No effected by 1.

So, what do you guys think?

 

[Terywj [태리]]

I'm =_o about that idea.....
Imagine that in effect for Glaceon...as a defensive technique it can make its fur freeze like needles...so that would mean physical attacks on Glaceon would be like Rough Skin.

 

[MysticKenji]

Edit: While I'm at it, I may as well post the type dis/advantages of the new type, Light.

Offensively
Light is SE against Normal. Just because.
Light is NVE against Fire. Does this make sense?
Light is NVE against Grass. Too much Light can cause a fire. But then again, plants need light...
Light is NVE against Electric. Does this make sense, too?
Light is SE against Ice. Light / warmth can make ice melt.
Light does not effect Ground or Rock. Duh.
Light is SE against Ghost Ghosts don't like to be seen.
Light is SE against Dark. Light and Dark are nemesises.

SE against 3.
NVE against 2.
Doesn't effect 2.

Defensively
Fire, Electric, and Water are NVE against Light.
Rock and Ground are SE against Light. And possibly Psychic.
Dark is SE against Light. Like I said. Nemesises.

SE by 1.
NVE by 2.
No effected by 0.

So, what do you guys think?

/critic

Made my changes.

 

[Wii4Mii 99]

/critic

Made my changes.

Okiedokie.

What about Psychic, though? Something tells mii Light should not/do something to Light.

Until wii meet again,
Wii4Mii 99

 

[mood4food77]

i was thinking light and dark be SE against each other

normal could resist light cause people are not effected by light

electric, fire, and light should all resist each other

we could make poison SE against light just cause

and psychic be SE against light but light have no effect on psychic

 

[MysticKenji]

@Wii4Mii

I agree with M4F as far as Light and Psychic go.

Also, there's going to be new Pokedex entries, so your idea is slightly flawed.

 

[mood4food77]

what idea is slightly flawed?

 

[Cereal Rabbit]

I've always wanted Skarmory to evolve.

Possibly it could become a slower and fatter bird. It needs Limber or something. Can't be poisoned or Paralyzed.

The base stats may be a little high for evolution, but hey? Rhydon evolved.

 

[mood4food77]

but skarmory is still OU, rhydon never was

 

[Wii4Mii 99]

I've always wanted Skarmory to evolve.

Possibly it could become a slower and fatter bird. It needs Limber or something. Can't be poisoned or Paralyzed.

The base stats may be a little high for evolution, but hey? Rhydon evolved.

Because it's Steel, it already can't be poisoned. >_>

...Or is that what you meant?

I thought the Skarmory evo would have +10 in Special Defense but -10 in Speed.

Until wii meet again,
Wii4Mii 99

 

[Cereal Rabbit]

Because it's Steel, it already can't be poisoned. >_>

...Or is that what you meant?

I thought the Skarmory evo would have +10 in Special Defense but -10 in Speed.

Until wii meet again,
Wii4Mii 99

Ofcourse I meant that. It's would be like a Nidoking if it had immunity to electricity.

Though speed is vital, Skarmory won't need it. So many pokemon won't worry about have an extra 20 EV to out run it....

Speed would go down a smidge. Defenses (Especially Sp. Def) Would Raise up higher. Maybe a couple points in HP.

Attack base stats are pointless. We need a good stalling Physical Wall that makes for a good spiker!!!

 

[Wii4Mii 99]

Ofcourse I meant that. It's would be like a Nidoking if it had immunity to electricity.

Though speed is vital, Skarmory won't need it. So many pokemon won't worry about have an extra 20 EV to out run it....

Speed would go down a smidge. Defenses (Especially Sp. Def) Would Raise up higher. Maybe a couple points in HP.

Attack base stats are pointless. We need a good stalling Physical Wall that makes for a good spiker!!!

Good luck. I already suggested a Skarmory evo way back when, but it was (rudely) turned down by MysticKenji.

j/k

I always thought the Base Stats would be:

HP: 100
Atk: 80
Def: 160
SpAtk: 40
SpDef: 80
Spd: 60

Until wii meet again,
Wii4Mii 99

 

[mood4food77]

ok, so now we're going ot make the skarmbliss combo even gheyer

let's hope gamefreak doesn't do that

 

[Wii4Mii 99]

ok, so now we're going ot make the skarmbliss combo even gheyer

let's hope gamefreak doesn't do that

Maybe it was (rudely) turned down by mood4food instead...

Anyways, I'd have to agree with them.

Until wii meet again,
Wii4Mii 99

 

[mood4food77]

fine

let everyone HATE ME

go ahead get it all out


you know what we need

Girily
Flying
Filter
100
20
60
140
60
150

470 BST

 

[Cereal Rabbit]

Good luck. I already suggested a Skarmory evo way back when, but it was (rudely) turned down by MysticKenji.

j/k

I always thought the Base Stats would be:

HP: 100 From 65 HP and defense that high will make it reach uber tier
Atk: 80 Same as last form. Maybe a very small boost or none at all as stated.
Def: 160 Big Boost. Not really but the number ISH BIGGISH!!!
SpAtk: 40 Same as last form. Maybe a very small boost or none at all as stated.
SpDef: 80 A "good boost." Possibly more Sp Def
Spd: 60 Good


Until wii meet again,
Wii4Mii 99

Something I Quickly Did. 3 Possibility depending on how high his Base Stats are....

Base Stat Total is 500.
HP: 80
ATK: 80
DEF: 150
SPD: 60
SPATT: 40
SPDEF: 90

Base Stat Total is 515.
HP: 80
ATK: 90
DEF: 155
SPD: 60
SPATT: 40
SPDEF: 90

Base Stat Total is 530.
HP: 80
ATK: 90
DEF: 160
SPD: 60
SPATT: 45
SPDEF: 95

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EDIT:
Good thing Blissey can't evolve.

 

[MysticKenji]

Skarmory is good enough as is.
He doesn't need an evo.

 

[mood4food77]

blissey evo

Uberiny
255
10
50
100
200
30

talk about uber