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What ARMS character do you want to see for FP#6?


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I think our ARMS character is gonna be like Bowser Jr. Meaning they might do all the same things but have different appearances like all of Bowser Jr's alts.

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Sorry Twintelle, you don't have any extending arms, so you can't be picked. RIP Twintelle fans. /s
 

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I feel this pass is gonna continue going in ways none of us expect.

Lesson of the day: Fan rules are silly and shouldn't be the end all be all of discussion. Have fun talking about who you want or who you think will get in (respectively, of course) and go in knowing that Nintendo in the end will do whatever the heck they want. I'm going all in on Waluigi and Octolings. Will I be right? Who knows! But that's who I want and who I think have decent chances so I will wait and see what happens.

Also, ARMS is good go play it.
 
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I'm not sure I'm buying this "business" angle here. ARMS is almost 3 years old, pretty sure they aren't expecting any boost in sales from this. There is no upcoming ARMS content coming that Nintendo can profit from as far as I know. You can say it's just for exposure, sure, but that would apply to almost every first party character.
There is also literally nothing that indicates an ARMS sequel at this point.
 
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There's something I just realized about this ARMS character. You know how Smash reveals tend to line up to where the most exciting newcomers are revealed close to the beginning and at E3? If an ARMS character was who they had planned as the first character of the second pass AND for E3 2020, how do you feel about the rest of the pass? Do you think that's indicative of anything?
I don't think it means too much as this Pass was very likely planned to stretch out over two E3s, and I do find it pretty likely that since the ARMS character releases in June we might get a double reveal at E3, especially since the ARMS character isn't a surprise anymore.

Some time back I actually had a feeling the first character of FP2 was going to be first party. Considering FP2 wasn't originally planned, I thought that in order to minimize the wait in between passes that they could go for a character they own themselves so to not have to go through the more extensive development cycle that they have to with third parties. Back then I predicted Edelgard, which obviously turned out to be wrong in more ways than one, but I wouldn't be surprised if the general idea is what happened here.
 
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I'm not sure I'm buying this "business" angle here. ARMS is almost 3 years old, pretty sure they aren't expecting any boost in sales from this. There is no upcoming ARMS content coming that Nintendo can profit from as far as I know. You can say it's just for exposure, sure, but that would apply to almost every first party character.
Could be that they have plans for it in the future and they want to keep it alive and well through Smash. I feel like that's one of the reasons why Shulk was added in Smash 4, because Xenoblade Chronicles only existed as a single game back then. Not many people even knew who Shulk was before Smash.
 
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I don't think it means too much as this Pass was very likely planned to stretch out over two E3s, and I do find it pretty likely that since the ARMS character releases in June we might get a double reveal at E3, especially since the ARMS character isn't a surprise anymore.

Some time back I actually had a feeling the first character of FP2 was going to be first party. Considering FP2 wasn't originally planned, I thought that in order to minimize the wait in between passes that they could go for a character they own themselves so to not have to go through the more extensive development cycle that they have to with third parties. Back then I predicted Edelgard, which obviously turned out to be wrong in more ways than one, but I wouldn't be surprised if the general idea is what happened here.
I can imagine an ARMS character also being on the shortlist for either Sakurai or Nintendo for a potential second fighters pass back when they were seeing how the first one was going.
 
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They did do something similar last year. Reveal the ARMS character at the start, (with a possible announcement of the Sakurai presentation on them at the same time) and then finish with FP7, likely to be released in August or September.
And tradition dictates that whoever is the E3 character will be the most exciting reveal of the set, as it's been in past E3 smash reveals.
 
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There's something I just realized about this ARMS character. You know how Smash reveals tend to line up to where the most exciting newcomers are revealed close to the beginning and at E3? If an ARMS character was who they had planned as the first character of the second pass AND for E3 2020, how do you feel about the rest of the pass? Do you think that's indicative of anything?
I think it'll be interesting to see how the rest of the pass will be. I myself figured there would be at least one first party character in the pass though I, along with others, weren't expecting FP6 to be a character from ARMS. It's an interesting choice to open the second wave of DLC, that's for sure. There is a possibility of a double reveal this summer, though we'll see.
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:laugh: Someone called an ARMS character a day after Smash Ultimate got revealed in the March 2018 Direct. If Spring Man is the ARMS character and breaks the assist trophy rule, then that post would age like fine wine.
 
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Certain "fan rules" are now hanging by a thread.

Good.:)
I hope so!

I really hope Spring Man gets upgraded from Assist Trophy to playable fighter in the same game.

There is a lot of characters who need hope.

Isaac, Skull Kid, Lyn, and of course Waluigi and for me Meowth.

Wow! It really does look like a Brawl era wish list.
 
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The game didn’t perform nearly as well as they wanted it to (even if it did succeed overall), and, similar to the exposure SE wanted for DQ, adding ARMS has the opportunity to renew interest in it.
I've had an interest in ARMS since I got a Switch, more than a year ago, but it's been very difficult to find. Most stores in my area have been out of stock for months if not more, and because of that the game is really expensive on the second-hand market too.

So I'm surprised to hear that, I was under the impression that their "print run" was smaller than what they expected to sell. And now the second-hand prices are going to soar again if they don't produce more physical copies.
 
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I wonder if Spring Man just being included in the list when teasing people is an indication that they and Sakurai really don't care about characters already being ATs and Spirits if they feel like including them later.
you can say the same for Ribbon Girl, Twintelle, Ninjara and Min Min too - just Spirits for those (Ribbon Girl's also a costume)
 
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Alright, here's my hard call.

It's going to be Spring Man. BUT this will be our first DLC fighter with an Echo.

We'll get another similarly proportioned ARMS fighter as an echo, and what sets them apart from Spring Man is their own gimmick being part of their kit (Ribbon Girl getting a Triple Jump, Min Min being able to kick when she dodges, etc.)
 
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Alright, here's my hard call.

It's going to be Spring Man. BUT this will be our first DLC fighter with an Echo.

We'll get another similarly proportioned ARMS fighter as an echo, and what sets them apart from Spring Man is their own gimmick being part of their kit (Ribbon Girl getting a Triple Jump, Min Min being able to kick when she dodges, etc.)
Two for the price of one. Seems like a great deal.
 

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So, how 'bout that Direct? Honestly, when I heard about it this morning, I thought people were just pullin' my leg. I was like "Yeah right buddy, you gotta wake up pretty early to trick me with that one."

Then I went to my YouTube subscriptions and it was real.

Anyway, I'm hoping for Min Min, personally. She's the dev favorite, and she was my main in ARMS. Though I'd also gladly accept Ribbon Girl.
 

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Alright, here's my hard call.

It's going to be Spring Man. BUT this will be our first DLC fighter with an Echo.

We'll get another similarly proportioned ARMS fighter as an echo, and what sets them apart from Spring Man is their own gimmick being part of their kit (Ribbon Girl getting a Triple Jump, Min Min being able to kick when she dodges, etc.)
finally, someone else sees the merit of bundled echoes being possible with this pass!

My idea is more Min Min with a Ninjara echo, but you do you. I def think they'll bundle 4 echoes with 4 specific fighters to fill all remaining 10 WoL slots in one go
 
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since dr.coyle was the only character i didn't know much about I just watched the trailer. yeah i'd bet its her.

-flight
-teleport
-pulls a third arm out
her moveset potential is interesting a cross of mewtwo and lil mac sounds interesting.
plus she has a theme thats pretty cool as well.
 
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He was banned!? Aw man, I wanted to see his anger.
Actually, the prospect of an Assist Trophy promotion might have shaken him out of his usual doom and gloom antics. Though he may need to see Spring Man gameplay footage to believe it.

EDIT: Though none of that would happen if he doesn't like Spring Man or ARMS.

finally, someone else sees the merit of bundled echoes being possible with this pass!
*slams desk*
Am I a joke to you!?!
 
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you can say the same for Ribbon Girl, Twintelle, Ninjara and Min Min too - just Spirits for those (Ribbon Girl's also a costume)
These next three months will be mostly speculation on if fan rules can be broken or not, with a side of maybe other possible candidates from other games for DLC. The chances of the fan rules being true or false will hinge on the identity of FP6, and to an extent, the second pass.
 
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since dr.coyle was the only character i didn't know much about I just watched the trailer. yeah i'd bet its her.

-flight
-teleport
-pulls a third arm out
her moveset potential is interesting a cross of mewtwo and lil mac sounds interesting.
plus she has a theme thats pretty cool as well.
That's actually not a teleport. It's invisibility on wakeup, and I think after blocking for a bit.
 
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While I'm not too excited about ARMS, I, for once, do want to say that I'm glad Nintendo bothered to at least say the franchise this character comes from. It's not perfect because they refused to say who it was, but the fact that they're at least giving people an idea of who it may be and are sparing themselves another Byleth controversy.

Hopefully, they'll also tell who the other characters will be with as much priority as this one next time.
 
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