@J - Where's your head at?
I'm going to get started with this and going through a few of my thoughts based on my readings. I've decided to hang back a bit and read things that everyone else is posting and everyone has posted in the time I have been waiting so I got to see a few things happen that has changed some reads on some slots.
Saving my big change for the end. Makes me sad.
man you switch to my man right when im contemplating flipping to lynch your scumspect. we have an odd chemistry going lol.
This is odd, why say this when you had been saying that you had a town-read on Ditzy. One of which that has never been substantiated well nor did you express that you were about to change. However, you change back to a town-read on Ditzy real shortly afterwards.
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You are the only person I have actually pushed for a lynch. Trying to set up reason to lynch too hard? No, I am pointing things out on you that are scummy. Have you been reading other people's posts against you? They are repeating the exact same responses I am against you because guess what, they also find that as scummy as well.
I'll take the hit on being tunnely which is why I re-evaluated and decided to push Ori atm.
...that was toDay not in twilight yesterDay. You repeat yourself by saying I am reaching for reasoning yet you don't point out how.
You have just listed a bunch of null-tells and have not explained how those are scummy at all. I use .gifs and so do a majority of DGamers when expressing some posts because they are fun to use. Using a word like *shruggers* is not scummy because its just an expression like *sigh*, etc. How is that scummy? Buddying Orbo, how is scummy if he is doing the exact same thing as well by calling me his "town bro 4 life"? You are holding a double standard PURELY because I am attacking you more aggressively.
I have many many more points than those and Orbo had asked me for Soup's reasoning and Soup himself also found your slot scummy as mentioned by also Orbo/Rake/Ori.
Someone asked me if there was another scenario which could be presented w.r.t. Vitamin, why are you using this as a scum-point? You are saying I am doing that to you toDay which isn't true because I am town and I am pushing a scum-read. You say I am setting you up but in my eyes(and other people's) its pushing a scum-read.
Your suspicion of me is full of garbage because you didn't have a read on me until after the fact that I pushed you and you seem more so trying to force a scum-read on me due to my push on you rather than having a legit scum-read on my slot and going after it. You say all you can do is silently just hide and wait when that isn't true at all. Build a case on me, express your distaste, try and convince people why I am scum instead of sitting there like a child and doing nothing to help your cause. If you were town, why would you need to wait until you could convince a minority of the players instead of toDay. if you truly felt this strongly about my slot being scum, you need to actually up the any and show everyone WHY I am scum.
If we are talking fake-suspicions, Ditzy, yours is a hella lot more fake.
No, it was twilight, the Vitamin lynch had been reached. My comment that people spazzed on was on him self hammering remember?
The reason I feel so strongly about this is that it was an innocent comment I made, and you trying to read that far into it feels like reaching for any point to strengthen an arbitrary choice of targets.
I'm not pressuring you that hard because I realize it's mostly vibe and omgus, I'm interested in getting my feelings out there because I have them and they need to be addressed, but I realize my reasoning is petty for an actual lynch at this point. I'd rather have people be looking at it with a critical eye but there's no need to rush to lynch you right this second without more evidence to work with (If Soup could balk and be town, you could be as well). Now the feelings are on the record for when I get lynched or whacked. You're taking a step in the right direction by both talking about it and admitting that you were tunneling which is good though, keep it up and my opinion could turn around. (but if you have your way I'll be dead by then)
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Within these two posts, I bring up points against Ditzy but he does not rebuttal the points against him but tries to talk his way around it. He says his reasoning against me is petty for an actual lynch but he just keeps alluding that he has a "critical eye" at me when that is just showing that he is having a weak push against me and hiding behind that fact. He ONLY seems to care about me when I push him/call him as scum. His suspicion does not seem true and actually seems fake when this is said:
It doesn't feel as if you care about anything besides your image this game........whyyyyyyyyyyyyy?
This point still holds true to now when he has been calling everyone scum who ever calls him scum and anyone who calls his OMG SCUM reads town, he says they are next in line.
Maybe I should just stop caring: buck up and be honest and say I don't give a rat's *** if anyone but me or Orbo dies right here and right now, because it wouldn't be far from the truth.
This feeling I get of Ditzy-Orbo connection keeps getting stronger by the way the two guys have been treating each other.
On an unrelated note: Someone hammer Ori, I'm confident enough in him being the pick today after the way he flip-flopped on his read of both J AND Orbo. You don't go from literally "I will follow J for he is my god" twilight D2 to "I don't like him" just like that once you're on the chopping block, and certainly not for two people.
Ditzy has been hammer fishing for someone to quickly end the day with an Ori lynch and it reeks of self-perservation of his own slot in this game instead of actually trying to lynch scum. He tries to denote this by saying "On an unrelated note" when in reality, it all he really cares about toDay is lynching Ori because it will inevitably save his own butt toDay. He brings up the fact that Ori voted him as a contradiction, when the fact is Ori has already brought Ditzy up as a scum-read earlier on in the day-phase and in twilight yesterDay so I don't get why he is even shocked by the return of his vote on him.
I really don't like that post, for reasons JD stated.
Ori has done nothing to scumhunt or paint others well and is just spreading FUD and trying to save himself. JD has at least been scumhunting.
He says "for reasons Ditzy stated" which means he is just piggybacking and then says false things about Ori whereas he is explaining what Ditzy is doing. He even calls Ori out on self-preservation iirc where the real person who has been doing this ever since he name fell into the hat of possible lynches, is Ditzy. Yet Orbo is holding a double-standard for his push on Ditzy-Ori and I am honestly baffled by this.
JD bro, talk to me. What's going on through your head? Are you hella angry at everyone in this game? It looks to be like you think EVERYONE IS SCUM. Dafuq?
+Smart points for Bardull. This is exactly what Ditzy is doing.
Like can we just lynch scum(aka ori) so i don't have to worry about this thread while im working all weekend?
Now i know sort of how marshy feels
Orbo backs up Ditzy's hurried attitude of rushing the hammer but he was paranoid earlier....excuse me but what? I don't like this hammer fishing coming from Ditzy-Orbo.
Orbo, I don't know what has happened but you are beginning to act like JD. Most of your recent posts are just a bunch of
because things aren't turning out how you want them to. I know I am town and you are trying to push for my lynch. Because of how you have been acting the past couple pages my scum-null is beginning to lean more scum.
This is
scary true as of late.
@J - What do you think of Orbo non-chalantly being cool with me and Rake when we have scum reads on him?
Bottom line: I dislike it. Orbo is just trying to shrug off the attention that is being focused on his slot and I do not get why. He seems uneasy when people question his alignment which hasn't really been done and his reaction to said pressure looks grimy.
I have noticed a connection that I think is important to bring up at the current time.
I think Ditzy and Orbo are the Ice Mafia in this game. Look at the way the two have been reacting to each other during toDay. Orbo has this weird town-read on Ditzy and this back and forth at the same time that seems to look like very weak scum-distancing techniques and I find it really scummy. Orbo has become to look weirder and weirder with his instance that Ditzy is town but not backing it up with anything. They both continue to piggyback each other with each other's suspicions of Ori_Boat, but at the same time, it doesn't do much besides them just going "Lynch Ori already" and end the day phase. They don't even seem to really care about looking into each others slots at all anymore (More Ditzy than Orbo).
We can even go into the fact that Ditzy also continously followed Zen when he was in the game and piggybacked his reasoning as I have pointed out already. Zen's slot-Ditzy have had a connection this entire game and it is even clearer when shown through who both slots have tried pushing together. Zen's slot has only had these tiny little pushes at Ditzy whereas Ditzy has not even cared to look at that slot while remaining to call every other slot town.
And Ditzy has begun to become a hypocrite lately. Look at the way he calls me out for buddying Orbo, but lately Ditzy has been buddying Orbo out the wazoo, however, Ditzy also forgot to mention that he had been buddying Zen when he was in the game as well so he is falling into his own scum-tell there.
ToDay, Ditzy needs to go, he flips Ice Mafia, Orbo is next.
Vote: Ditzy
FoS: Orboknown
I'm sorry Orbo that is has to be this way, but I will free you from your scummy self. The towny group will miss you.
