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Newbie 13: Organization XIII Mafia ~Town Wins!~

Gova

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1.) Acrostic (1) Gova
2.) SangfroidWarrior ()
4.) Seikend ()
6.) Red Ryu ()
7.) Werekill ()
8.) Zen (1) Kuz
9.) th3kuzinator (1) Werekill
Not voting - Acrostic, SW, Seikend, Red Ryu, Zen,

With 7 playing, it takes 4 to lynch!

Deadline is August 3rd at 11:59 PM EST (GMT-5).
 

th3kuzinator

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Heck, I even said vanilla townie. Wording here isn't important, and I don't like how you're pushing this, Kuz.
you don't like anything I do and it really doesn't bother me.

we all said vt but thats and most of us did it w/o thinking which is why its null. i specifically asked people to go back and look at the phrasing to make sure it was perfect.

chill its only one vote no need to get testy
 

#HBC | Acrostic

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The front page has a sample role PM that Zen could have just used word for word. I'm not sure how this implicates him at all.
 

th3kuzinator

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we're lynching one of Sang or Acro toDay thats not even debatable.

just feel like parking my vote here for now. still reading some stuff
 

Lore

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By the way... Isn't there still a chance that RR was lying? Not much, but still.

I say that Sang is lying due to previously scummy play. If we lynch her, we also don't potentially lose a good pr like doctor.
 

th3kuzinator

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if rr was scum then that means we have a deputy and a doc.

we either have a cop and a doc or a doc backup.

i trust rr on this one i think i'll be damned if im wrong on that
 

#HBC | Acrostic

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I believe that we're forgetting that the mod could have put in a doc/dep combo, knowing this will happen. If it's in the OP as possible, we shouldn't count it out.
Thank you. But I think that most of town is going with the logic that the combinations will have to make sense. Especially since this is a Newbie game and the fact that RR claimed first and wasn't counter claimed. But the fact that you still doubt him, despite him having an inno on you should make it pretty obvious that you are town even if RR ends up being scum.
 

#HBC | Acrostic

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Sangfroid if you're town then you're not helping yourself for tomorrow by tunneling on me. Red Ryu hasn't commented and tomorrow it will be between you|Red with little to no content from Red regarding my flip. I think you should unvote and at least try re-reading before rushing this decision as scum can easily hammer at this point.
 

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Zen, Kooz, Sang, Werekill, Acro, Ryu, Seikend.

Lynch Acro -> Scum
Scum Nightkills:

4 vs 1

Lynch Seikend --> Town
Scum NK's:

2 v 1

Lynch out of Kooz and Zen

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Lynch Acro ---> Town
Scum NKs:

3 v 2

Lynch Sang --> Scum (sure-fire hit)
Scum NKs

2 v 1

Lynch out of Kooz, Zen, and Seikend

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So right now Ryu and Werekill are clear for everyone.

One of Acro and Sang is scum.
One of Kooz, Seikend and Zen is scum.

Right now I am leaning on Acro and Seikend being scum, and the above are the lynch routs I'd like to go. They both display the worse case scenario's (Seikend being town/Acro being town).
 

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Acrostic you said if you were scum you would have claimed VT, but you were the one that came up with the logic that on scum should claim a PR in the first place iirc.
 

#HBC | Acrostic

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I understand if I get voted today, but I would prefer if town at least gets a read off Red Ryu|Seikend. Seikend hasn't commited to any decisions, so at least watching his reaction to the stratification between the PRs will help determine the remaining scum among the VT claims. Btw I'm still inclined to believe Sang over Red Ryu based on posting content. I think that relying on setup speculation [Information Instead of Analysis (IIoA)] is the most critical mistake people are making at the moment. I also seriously want to go to bed, but I'm nervous that I'm going to die without responding to a post. Meh. I don't need sleep. I DON'T NEED IT.
 

th3kuzinator

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sang why were you so opposed to acro from the get go when rr could have been scum lying.

why "dont you believe acro for one second"?
 

#HBC | Acrostic

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Acrostic you said if you were scum you would have claimed VT, but you were the one that came up with the logic that on scum should claim a PR in the first place iirc.
IIRC I was talking about what scum might try to do D1 if they were being lynched. If the mafia goon was going to get lynched on D1 then I think they would try to claim cop in order to get a cop cc and then have the roleblocker block it in order to prevent him from getting a report. If the mafia roleblocker was going to get lynched D1 then they would try to claim doc in order to get a doc cc and then have the mafiagoon kill it. I'm not sure how scum would play on D2 though. It would probably depend on who has what role.
 

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Because Acro's playstyle has decreased a lot from when he first started and there are holes in his newer arguments. Red Ryu is... I'm not sure. I think it was more of the spur of the moment when I said that, but I do trust Ryu more-so than Acro. I don't believe Luxord would be doc, but that's a flavor thing. I also don't like how Acro was pushing people so hard to get reactions out of it when it wasn't at all necessary.
 

th3kuzinator

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BPC investigating Werekill seems really genuine to me.

And I really don't think J would screw around with the roles and put a doc/deputy.
whyzat seem genuine?

i recall that bpc going into the night phase with a read on werekill that he was "sorta townie"

why would he investigate his sorta townie read.

also i dont think j would have done it either but its in the op so we really cant discount that
 
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