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Basically yes, such an example would be Luigi having his Mr. L costume, even if he looks a little different he would still play the same because it's just an alterenate costume, tbh they should have done this with Mario in Melee, thus we probably could have potentially had room for another character despite him being short on time.
Nah, Sakurai said he originally planned like 20 characters for Melee, but added several clones when the development for Melee was nearing it's end. Sakurai even said Ganondorf was lucky he had a similar body-shape to Captain Falcon, otherwise he wouldn't have made it.Basically yes, such an example would be Luigi having his Mr. L costume, even if he looks a little different he would still play the same because it's just an alterenate costume, tbh they should have done this with Mario in Melee, thus we probably could have potentially had room for another character despite him being short on time.
When has Sakurai said Melee was a mistake? I've read several articles where he said that Melee was meant for casual play, not competitive play. He says stuff along the lines of he doesn't root for a team, but the competition, the competitiveness, and the fun of it. He didn't exactly promote competitive play, but he didn't condone it. And yes, that was of Melee. People take stuff written about Melee, and assume it was about Brawl.
Holy goodness!!Here Omega, here is Brood Ryu for you:
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Ryu Sword Fighting
Ryu Dragon Fighting
Ryu Warrior Dragon Fighting[/COLLAPSE]
He is even better than an FE character. Did you watch the vids? Yeah, dragon forms.Holy goodness!!
He looks like an FE characters which is awesome, I would definetly like to see him clash swords with either Marth or Ike, how wonderfully estactic would that be!!
@JohnKnight: Hmm..as far as Link's look goes it will most likely be from Skyward Sword, it looks kinda handrawn but looks cool though, Zelda though looks very different but then again SS is based before Ganon was even around so yea.
I wonder of Ganon would also get his textures redesigned since he isn't in SS.
You never know with Link, or Smash. They could easily do two models of him, like with Wario (I'd be all for it). They could also kind of combine a newer, higher graphical version idea of him with his Skyward Sword appearance, similarly to what they did in Melee with Ganondorf (combining his Ocarina of Time and the 2000 Nintendo Space World Trailer looks). Also, hopefully if the Gale Boomerang returns, it actually does DAMAGE!@JohnKnight: Hmm..as far as Link's look goes it will most likely be from Skyward Sword, it looks kinda handrawn but looks cool though, Zelda though looks very different but then again SS is based before Ganon was even around so yea.
I wonder of Ganon would also get his textures redesigned since he isn't in SS.
)Nah, I imagine SmashChu was just having a bad day. It's fine. I've gone on rants similar to that. Like when everyone thought Ness was de-confirmed in Brawl after Lucas was confirmed. Right after I finally got around to accepting it, he randomly got confirmed in Brawl by accident!
), then why not have Ryu as promotion (along with mah boi Mega Man)=??? That would be epic to the max! Probably because there's not much left to discuss, especially since we've debated the same things over and over again. Honestly, I never though I would say this, but it's starting to get kind of boring. I'd edit my Victini essay, but Livejournal is not letting me do it.OmegaXVII said:
I would have to agree with you on this. We would have gotten five slots with an actually original character if Dr. Mario was merely an alternate costume with Mario.OmegaXVII said:
It's been confirmed that Ganondorf wouldn't make an appearance. I doubt that'll change.Johnknight1 said:
I got a topic I've been wanting to talk about. Should we keep the Level Editor and if so how can we improve it?
), Ganondorf in Zero Suit Samus' outfit (I'd pay to play as that!), etc. Still, they may have made a Ganondorf design, similarly as to what they did with Sheik in Twilight Princess. Although I must admit I'd much rather see a super realistic, evil to the max Ganondorf with an even eviler voice, face, body, and persona. That would be sooooo awesome!
I agree with this, all of it!! Ganondorf in a slim suit?! Oh my...First off, alternate outfits, costumes, whatever beyond 6 per character can also wait until the game is released as DLC (seriously, the Pokermans and Sonic needed new and better colors). Although if the graphic designers have nothing better to do, let 'em have at it and design as many as they can until more important projects come along.
Hopefully if there is DLC alternate outfits/costumes/character designs, Nintendo wouldn't charge you up the butt like Capcom did with Street Fighter IV!
Mr. L, Pichu, Dr. Mario, Roy, Sigurd, *insert other Fire Emblem character alternate outfit for Marth here*, Raichu (YES-h!), Jigglypuff's pre and post-evolutionary forms, different-looking Pokémon Trainers (although that'd be kinda pointless), Mr. L, Waluigi (for Luigi), Raccoon Mario and other forms of Mario and Luigi (for the lulz), Bowser with Link's hat on fitted for his size (hopefully it comes without Navi!
There are literally LIMITLESS possibilities, and most are pretty easy to make. Maybe they could even add a costume designer feature, made very similar to other fighting games.
A super evil Ganondorf would definetly be one of the coolest characters in Smash history asidem from the Black Knight of course, he would be waiting at you in Final Destination all while using dark spells and holding his Epic Sword, that would be awesome.JohnKnight said:Still, they may have made a Ganondorf design, similarly as to what they did with Sheik in Twilight Princess. Although I must admit I'd much rather see a super realistic, evil to the max Ganondorf with an even eviler voice, face, body, and persona. That would be sooooo awesome!
I don't want them to be broken (I want them and everyone else to be as balanced as possible). I just want to play them feeling like I'm controlling a God-like character. When casual players first touched Melee, that is how they felt initially with Mewtwo (mostly because they wanted him to be that way). An indestructible character with psychic abilities second to none.@JohnKnight: it would be so cool if they actually made Ganon and Mewtwo play and look godly, they should definetly be at least A material in the tier list, I mean why not? It would totally make fanboys happy if if they were to be a bit broken?
is Ganon really going to appear in Skyward Sword? I thought he wasn't though. :/
Dude, Ganondorf in that suit would be friggen hilarious. Who wouldn't want that? We'd get to see his fine as heck legs, and perhaps see Wario grab him there like a total friggen creeper!I agree with this, all of it!! Ganondorf in a slim suit?! Oh my...
Mewtwo definetly needs to have his Armor on, Armored Mewtwo!!? I would sooo main him, just make him a bit heavier and all would be fine.
A super evil Ganondorf would definetly be one of the coolest characters in Smash history asidem from the Black Knight of course, he would be waiting at you in Final Destination all while using dark spells and holding his Epic Sword, that would be awesome.
Simple: Everything used as a stage prop or ground should be in the stage editor. Bam. I went there. No reason that those individual parts shouldn't be in, along with such things as the option to go through certain objects or not (and have them look a certain way or look a certain way so you could tell).
Well I have my ideas on my general SSB 4 blog but I'll sum some ideas ups.
I agree but they are probably not going to do that until an actual game is shown.
I don't know "why" they do it but it's what they did when Brawl was coming out. It wasn't until the first trailer shown at E3 did they create a new board.
Looking back I'd swap Luigi for Pit. He would be a great counter for Arthur.
well im sure it doesnt take that much effort considering how many boards there already are
Seriously. Too many topics, too much time!
), create-a-characters/Miis, the possible returning Pokéball Pokémon (all of them... please?), new Pokéball Pokémon, returning Assist Trophies, new Assist Trophies, returning bosses (hopefully Rayquaza!), new bosses (hopefully Gigyas!), new SSE enemies, the SSE's plot, the possibility of SSE having more than 2 players playing, the SSE possibly being playable online, as well as new modes that could be added to classic and regular multiplayer modes, etc.
u should send this to the adminsSeriously. Too many topics, too much time!
We got characters (first and foremost), mechanics, physics, potential move sets for newcomers, potential move sets chances for veterans, online upgrades, possible online modes, leader boards, different online game types, LAN game play (they should totally have it!), online versus, the possibility of online and LAN having more than 4 player games (imagine how awesome 4 vs. 4 would be), the possibility of Nintendo and others hosting online tournaments, online content (like the automatically send stages and pics in Brawl), how Nintendo should upgrade their online, whether Friend's Codes will return (pray, write letters, flame Nintendo; this needs to die!), how the Wii U graphics will work, how the Wii U online will work, the possibility of mics and player/friend chat (rooms), how the Wii U will work, how the 3DS will handle smash, possibly roster, stage, and item difference between the two, possibly 3DS vs Wii U smash battles, how the Adventure mode and/or SSE will work out, the coin launcher, what stages will return, new stages, new franchises, what franchise will get stage/item/character rep, create-a-stage ideas/upgrades, alternate outfits, character DLC, item DLC, online content DLC, alternate outfit/costume DLC, trophies, stickers, new collectables, new items, returning items and their changes, classic modes' future, event matches, All-Star mode, break the targets, the home run contest, how to fix tournament mode, whether or not there will online tournament, the possible return of land on the platform (would be awesome!), the possibility of doing single-player modes with a friend (offline and online), the future of options, the options of items, the options of combining modes (ie: super metal hyper speed heavy bunny hood fights!), new music, the future of music in smash (make the songs at least 3-6 minutes long!), the possibility of adding on music (I want a stage with songs off Diary of a Madman), the possibility of playing any on disc song on any stage (Green Hill Zone on Mushroom Kingdom ftw!
You can go on and on and on forever about stuff to talk about, and I'm pretty sure we've covered at least 90% of it in this thread and the 3DS Smash thread!
Also, I'd do regular Bass over Bass.EXE (he can be an alternate outfit). That and Will (maybe Takamaru since he has yet to be revived, although he could make a future smash bros appearance for sure). Also, who is Will, and why would he be worthy? Plus Zamus would probably happen, since fighting game developers love attractive women (often to the point of perversion), including Capcom.
Bass.EXE was highly requested as a Megaman character and would be great Battle Network representative. Plus he is Mewtwo's counter, they are both extremely similar.
That or we could just quote that from every post/page from here on out!u should send this to the admins
) just happened. On top of that, the two games are still in the very beginning of the developmental process, and we have very little legitimate rumors to talk about.
No use, they won't listen besides, they already told me that as of now that the Smash 4 announcement is "subject to change" meaning it might get cancelled anytime, so its not worth doing any the boards until we official get an e3 trailer of some kind of DOJO update that's officially announced, otherwise all ideas will be cluttered and lost into the black void which is known as the Smash 4 Wii-U thread.u should send this to the admins
I agree with Weruop. All they need is a board for SSBU/3DS and we can make all the threads. Then we can have whole threads dedicated to Ridley size arguments, Toad's importance in Mario series, or Geno's fanbase strong enough to have him in it.Seriously. Too many topics, too much time!
We got characters (first and foremost), mechanics, physics, potential move sets for newcomers, potential move sets chances for veterans, online upgrades, possible online modes, leader boards, different online game types, LAN game play (they should totally have it!), online versus, the possibility of online and LAN having more than 4 player games (imagine how awesome 4 vs. 4 would be), the possibility of Nintendo and others hosting online tournaments, online content (like the automatically send stages and pics in Brawl), how Nintendo should upgrade their online, whether Friend's Codes will return (pray, write letters, flame Nintendo; this needs to die!), how the Wii U graphics will work, how the Wii U online will work, the possibility of mics and player/friend chat (rooms), how the Wii U will work, how the 3DS will handle smash, possibly roster, stage, and item difference between the two, possibly 3DS vs Wii U smash battles, how the Adventure mode and/or SSE will work out, the coin launcher, what stages will return, new stages, new franchises, what franchise will get stage/item/character rep, create-a-stage ideas/upgrades, alternate outfits, character DLC, item DLC, online content DLC, alternate outfit/costume DLC, trophies, stickers, new collectables, new items, returning items and their changes, classic modes' future, event matches, All-Star mode, break the targets, the home run contest, how to fix tournament mode, whether or not there will online tournament, the possible return of land on the platform (would be awesome!), the possibility of doing single-player modes with a friend (offline and online), the future of options, the options of items, the options of combining modes (ie: super metal hyper speed heavy bunny hood fights!), new music, the future of music in smash (make the songs at least 3-6 minutes long!), the possibility of adding on music (I want a stage with songs off Diary of a Madman), the possibility of playing any on disc song on any stage (Green Hill Zone on Mushroom Kingdom ftw!
You can go on and on and on forever about stuff to talk about, and I'm pretty sure we've covered at least 90% of it in this thread and the 3DS Smash thread!
Also, I'd do regular Bass over Bass.EXE (he can be an alternate outfit). That and Will (maybe Takamaru since he has yet to be revived, although he could make a future smash bros appearance for sure). Also, who is Will, and why would he be worthy? Plus Zamus would probably happen, since fighting game developers love attractive women (often to the point of perversion), including Capcom.
Edit: Nintendo would take Luigi over Pit anydays. But Pit definitely would have a shot at such a game. Alas, I think it's a discussion for another thread. I think we might want to take it over to another group.
Also, Epic matchup from Genesis (Taj as Marth vs. MacD as Peach). Pretty epic to the max. Match 2 is especially extremely epic awesomeness status (4:14 to 8:48)
I never get what the difference with Samus and Zamus is Zamus = Zero-Suit?
Zamus = Zero Suit Samus.
They did that after the first Brawl trailer came out. I don't think it's quite time for that yet. I think the mods should just make threads for specific discussion like "what stages will return?" "what 3rd party characters could make the roster?" (in either game) or "how will items change in Smash Wii U/3DS?"
(REFERENCE!) :nessbrawl: :noness: :grimer: 
Just the suit, or lack there of in this case.I never get what the difference with Samus and Zamus is Zamus = Zero-Suit?
Anyway Phoenix Wright vs. Will should definetly happen, when I first saw Will I thought he was from an Ace Attorney game.
I guess that makes sense. That's a good reason, because until it's officially revealed, they could back out of one, the other, or both. A recent Assassin's Creed game was cancelled on the 3DS (a trailer hadn't been shown, but it was announced for several months), and was eventually cancelled and combined with Assassin's Creed: Revelations, which could happen with Smash Bros 3DS and Wii U. At least the Admins and Mods reasoning makes sense.No use, they won't listen besides, they already told me that as of now that the Smash 4 announcement is "subject to change" meaning it might get cancelled anytime, so its not worth doing any the boards until we official get an e3 trailer of some kind of DOJO update that's officially announced, otherwise all ideas will be cluttered and lost into the black void which is known as the Smash 4 Wii-U thread.
