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Mischief_Maker92

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Someone forgot Jimmy T.


What I hate about Wario characters is that they're all pretty much the same. Equally... kind of... bad picks.
I would rank him above 9-Volt, but I like the idea of having a character that would use various nintendo themed moves better.
 

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Oasis just has a thing against Mona because everyone likes her more than Jimmy T.

Oasis_Sore

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So, talking my favorite multi-tasking ginger aren't we?

I think Mona has a shot since she is a fan favorite, the second most important Wario Ware character, can have a creative moveset, loves Wario, and has red hair. You need somebody with red hair other than mostly blondes, brunettes, blue heads, and baldies. :D

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This is consideration for a personal fantasy roster of mine, not for what will actually happen in Smash 4.
This. I know that there is a good chance that some of my personal wanted newcomers might not happen and I accept that. I just like to express my desires out instead of keeping it bottled in. I said it before and I will say it again... I want these newcomers in Smash 4:

1. Toad
2. Dixie Kong / Kiddy Kong (Dixie & Kiddy)
3. King K. Rool
4. Deku Link / Goron Link / Zora Link (Masked Link)
5. Tingle
6. Ridley
7. Palutena
8. Medusa
9. Krom
10. Meowth & Arbok / Meowth & Weezing (Team Rocket)
11. Zoroark
12. Little Mac
13. King Hippo
14. Duck Hunt Dog
15. Takamaru
16. Starfy
17. Mii
18. Shulk
19. Slime
20. Mega Man

They are the brand-new, never-before-playable characters in my fantasy Smash 4 roster. They are the 20 newcomers I really want to play as the most. However I would be happy to embrace these specific not-as-desperately-wanted newcomers (even if they may never happen) as well:

- 3rd gen Pokemon Trainer May with Mudkip, Grovyle, and Blaziken
- Amaterasu (Okami)
- Bad Box Art Mega Man
- Banjo-Kazooie
- Caeda
- Captain Rainbow
- Deoxys
- Donkey Kong Jr.
- Dr. Eggman
- Geno (as long as Toad gets in first)
- Impa
- Isaac (or Matthew)
- Knuckles
- Krystal (as long as she is not a goddamn Fox clone)
- Magnus
- Mallow (because I don't think Geno deserves to be the sole rep of Super Mario RPG)
- Muddy Mole
- Pac-Man
- Prince of Persia
- Saki (or Isa)
- Simon Belmont
- Tails
- Toon Zelda / Tetra (NOT Toon Sheik!!!)
- Waddle Dee
- Yangus (Dragon Quest VIII)

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@R.O.B.- Oh, god yeah, Super Mario Sunshine 2 for the Wii U would be a dream come true. SMS is one of my absolute favorite Mario platformers, mostly because it had Yoshi in it. I love Yoshi :love:

@Arcade- YES!!! Dr. Robotnik, Banjo and Kazooie, DK Jr, Deoxys, Pac-Man, Hoenn PT, Simon Belmont or Knuckles would be soooooooo awesome
 

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Meah, I'd rather have a brand new Super Mario 64 sequel (that plays without outer space physics or stuff like FLUDD, although that'd be cool if it was optional) than Sunshine. Sunshine had that weird camera, the controls felt too loose, and the level design could have been better. Plus I hated how the whole game was based around FLUDD. However, I loved all the cool new non-FLUDD related physics stuff.

Speaking of which, what Super Mario Galaxy stage(s) do you think should be in Smash=??? I like the Galaxy Observation stage ideas, as well as the Battlerock Galaxy idea, amongst others. :cool:

Edit: If we get another Wave Race, it needs to be a progressive evolution, much like what happened with Tony Hawk's Pro Skater. The first 8 games generally evolved more in more. After that, the series featured awkward controls and really move backwards. Blue Storm felt like it went slightly backwards from Wave Race 64.

Speaking of which, a stage from the 1st Wave Race (maybe that stage with the dolphin) would be EPIC in smash! (N64 graphics, too=???) I loved that game to death!
 

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At this point, I don't care what Galaxy stage we might see. I just want Bowser's Castle, Rainbow Road, and New Kingdom (like 64 and Melee Kingdom but based on New Super Mario Bros. Wii).

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@John- TONY HAWK'S PRO SKATER

God, I loved that series

Can't wait for Pro Skater HD

Speaking of Pro Skater...

Ollie the Magic Bum 4 Smash
 

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Personally, I agree Arc. I would be fine with just about any stage from either Mario Galaxy game. I also agree on Bowser's Castle. That stage is just a few feathers short of being "needed." Personally, I would love it if that stage was a combination of several Bowser Castle levels in various Mario games. :cool:

However, I also want the Airship stage from Super Mario Bros. 3, or really anything from Super Mario Bros. How is that every canon Mario console game up to Sunshine has a stage in smash except the best game in the series BY FAR=??? :urg:

Also, this song needs to be in Smash. This isn't an opinion, this is a FACT!!! :)

Edit: LOL at Ollie the Magical Bum. That guy is overpowered. :laugh:
 

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That series had the best guest characters known to man (well, other than Brawl and Soul Calibur II). Darth Maul, Jango Fett, K.I.S.S., Shrek, Spider-Man, Wolverine, Iron Man, Neversoft Eyeball... hell, Pro Skater 3 even had Kelly Slater as a playable skater :laugh:

I'm down for the Airship Fortress in Smash, though
 

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Yeah Pro Skater 3 was my favorite in the series, but I loved all of them up to Project 8. Proving Ground was good, but it fails next to the other games. :lick:

Also, this song would also be a great add-on song to Final Destination, Lylat Cruise, and a Bowser's Castle, Super Mario Galaxy, or Airship stage. :cool:
 

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That is what I want for Bowser's Castle too. In fact, I sent this stage concept to Sakurai's Twitter in hopes that Sakurai may "get" what I am trying to say.

[COLLAPSE="Bowser's Castle"]
[/COLLAPSE]

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That series had the best guest characters known to man (well, other than Brawl and Soul Calibur II). Darth Maul, Jango Fett, K.I.S.S., Shrek, Spider-Man, Wolverine, Iron Man, Neversoft Eyeball... hell, Pro Skater 3 even had Kelly Slater as a playable skater :laugh:

I'm down for the Airship Fortress in Smash, though
I remember the first time I played Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 2. I couldn't believe it when I unlocked Spiderman! Imagine SSB having guest characters as crazy as THPS!
 

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Yeah, Spider-man was a ridiculous unlockable character. He was like Tony Hawk's equivalent of having Snake in Smash back then! :laugh:

@ Arc
Obi-Wan: "Use the collapse tag, LUKE! Otherwise I'm gonna smack yo daddy."

Edit: New Ridley avatar for the win! :cool:
 

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I like the stage concept, Arcadenik! It gives a nice Bowser Castle feel. One question: is the button that usually kills the bridge able to be clicked by fighters,work like Bridge of Eldin, work like Green Hill Zone, or just be in the background? Or something else? Either way I hope he gets the idea :cool:

Nice avatar John. (Kinda funny...you're on my screen with your old and new avatars due to the automatic post updates xD)
 

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@Mischief- Lol, I had the same reaction. Honestly, that's kind of what I'm hoping for when it comes to third party characters. Something cool and unexpected (like Viewtiful Joe) but not completely random and out-of-place (like an anime character)

@John- Nice avi
 

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Meah, I'd rather have a brand new Super Mario 64 sequel (that plays without outer space physics or stuff like FLUDD, although that'd be cool if it was optional) than Sunshine. Sunshine had that weird camera, the controls felt too loose, and the level design could have been better. Plus I hated how the whole game was based around FLUDD. However, I loved all the cool new non-FLUDD related physics stuff.

Speaking of which, what Super Mario Galaxy stage(s) do you think should be in Smash=??? I like the Galaxy Observation stage ideas, as well as the Battlerock Galaxy idea, amongst others. :cool:

Edit: If we get another Wave Race, it needs to be a progressive evolution, much like what happened with Tony Hawk's Pro Skater. The first 8 games generally evolved more in more. After that, the series featured awkward controls and really move backwards. Blue Storm felt like it went slightly backwards from Wave Race 64.

Speaking of which, a stage from the 1st Wave Race (maybe that stage with the dolphin) would be EPIC in smash! (N64 graphics, too=???) I loved that game to death!
Super mario 3D Land is basically that.
 

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Fixed my Bowser's Castle post with the collapse tag. As you can see, the concept features several elements from many games.

- bridge over lava pit with Podoboos based on Super Mario Bros.
- platforms based on chandeliers from Super Mario RPG
- switch that destroys the bridge based on New Super Mario Bros. Wii
- Thwomp from Super Mario Bros. 3
- fire-breathing Bowser statue in background based on Mario Kart Double Dash

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Alternate Costumes. it's not discussed much, so...Veterans:(not my Smash 4, just Brawl chars.)
Mario: Dr. Mario
Luigi: Waluigi
Bowser: Dry Bowser
Peach: Daisy
DK: Chunky Kong
Diddy Kong: Kiddy Kong
Wario: Classic Wario(starts off as WarioWare Wario)
Yoshi: Birdo
Link: Shadow Link
Zelda/Sheik: Young Zelda/Impa
Ganondorf: Classic Ganondorf(the pig one)
Toon Link: Young Link
Samus/ZSS: Sylux/Adam
Pit: Dark Pit
R.O.B: ROB 64(I'm lazy)
Ice Climbers: Kat and Ana(SOOOOOOOO lazy)
Kirby: Yarn Kirby
King Dedede: Masked Dedede
Meta Knight: Galacta Knight
Olimar: Louie
Fox: James McCloud
Falco: Slippy Toad
Wolf: Panther Caroso
Capt. Falcon: Blood Falcon
Pikachu: Raichu
Pokemon Trainer: Female Pokemon Trainer
Lucario: Riolou
Jigglypuff: Wigglytuff
Marth: Roy
Ike: Griel
Ness: Ninten
Lucas: Claus
Mr. Game and Watch: John Solver
Sonic: Shadow
Snake: Raiden
There. Feel free to criticise me, now.:bee:
 

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Raiden? As a Snake alt? LOL, c'mon now, Cobalsh, that's just... no. Snake isn't even a cyborg ninja :laugh:

Characters that are completely different as in the case of Snake and Raiden shouldn't be reduced to mere alts of another character. That's just a horrible idea in general and a slap in the face to the people who actually might have wanted those characters as fully playable. Now making Dr. Mario an alt of Mario (much as I hate it) is acceptable because Dr. Mario is real talk, basically just Mario in a labcoat. Perfect as an alt costume. Just saiyan ;)
 

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Nice avatar John. (Kinda funny...you're on my screen with your old and new avatars due to the automatic post updates xD)
That's weird! :laugh: Also, all thanks should go to whoever made that picture. It was an extremely well-crafted picture. :reverse:
@John- Nice avi
Thanks. :) It's actually been my desktop background for almost a decade. Whoever made it really made an excellent picture. :cool:
Super mario 3D Land is basically that.
Not quite IMO. Super Mario 3D Land IMO a mix of Super Mario Land 1 & 2 and Super Mario World to me with some aspects of Super Mario Bros. 1 & 3 and Super Mario 64. :bee:

Edit: Now I need a new signature. This signature I have is like 4 years old! :grin:
 

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Seeing as someone has the picture of Mirina, it'd neat to see how she'd play (From Mischief Makers)
It was not really a popular game I don't think at least, but it was still really fun and her character design could be something unique.
 

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If Yoshi needs an alternate outfit/costume, it should be Boshi! :shades:

Also, I gotta say about 3/4ths of the roster has no business getting an alternate outfit... unless by that you mean a look based on an older model. Like how Sonic used to be shorter and fatter. However, a Shadow or Metal Sonic outfit of Sonic would be worthwhile IMO.
 

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Seeing as someone has the picture of Mirina, it'd neat to see how she'd play (From Mischief Makers)
It was not really a popular game I don't think at least, but it was still really fun and her character design could be something unique.
I was recently playing Mischief Makers on my old N64, and that's when I thought about how she would be a cool character to play as in Smash, even though her chances of getting in are very low.
 

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OMG... Metal Sonic as Sonic's alternate costume? I would love that! No joke! I always found Metal Sonic aesthetically appealing to me than Shadow.

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Shadow or Metal Sonic alternate with custom voices would be neat, but should be something hard to unlock.

Idk if her chances are even near 99%, I doubt she's even been considered.
She's not popular at all.

Alternate characters should STILL relate to their series imo.

Sonic - Shadow - Metal Sonic are all near same and same series

Mario - Doctor Mario

DK - Funky Kong

Yoshi - Boshi

Toon Link and Young Link are too different
 

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I agree Arc. That's why I suggested it. Metal Sonic is one of my favorite Sonic characters. Plus Metal Sonic is probably going to be a trophy, NPC, or maybe a boss or enemy. Shadow fits too. All 3 of them have the same body type. Plus, Shadow's model will probably be re-used as an Assist Trophy character again, or perhaps an NPC or boss. So, why not have it as a Sonic alternate outfit=??? :confused:

On a side note, I would love to see Zelda's Ocarina of Time and Twilight Princess looks return, along with her new Skyward Sword look. It would also be neat if a Zelda outfit was made where she wore the clothing she had as a child in Ocarina of Time. :)

@ Cobalsh
Lucas already has a Claus color, although it doesn't look 100% exactly like Claus.
 
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