New Smash Bros for WiiU

[Big-Cat]

Ooh, lookie! I made Jennifer Love Hewitt mad. What does Geno have to do with Meowth, Duck Hunt Dog, or Impa? They aren't Mario characters.

One likes to scratch on things like wood which comes from trees. One likes to pee on trees which is where wood comes from. The last one looks like a tree branch which is a part of a tree which is where wood comes from which is what Geno is made of.

 

[Arcadenik]

One likes to scratch on things like wood which comes from trees. One likes to pee on trees which is where wood comes from. The last one looks like a tree branch which is a part of a tree which is where wood comes from.

OMG... That's ****ing hilarious!

 

[Shorts]

Ooh, lookie! I made Jennifer Love Hewitt mad. What does Geno have to do with Meowth, Duck Hunt Dog, or Impa? They aren't Mario characters.

Damn right. Now I'm going to kill you like I did my husband.

Seriously though, you act a douche, and then when I do it back, you whine? Cry me a river kitty cat.

 

[Metal Overlord]

Huh, nice theory Shortie. Maybe Geno in Smash isn't as farfetched as I used to think
after all

 

[Johnknight1]

Sakurai needs to resolve those IP issues, now!

Get that mutha ****in' Geno in my mutha ****in' Smash

LMAO. I wonder if Square Enix would give Geno away so easily to Smash like they did with him in Mario & Luigi: Superstar Saga.

To me, from a gameplay standpoint, single player's a bonus and an after though at worst for this kind of game. Simply put, it doesn't take a genius to realize that balancing a single player game is easier than balancing a multiplayer one. Sometimes I wonder if Brawl roster was designed with that in mind as I wanna say Meta Knight isn't so derp in SSE.

Pretty much this. Smash Bros. SIMPLY SHOULD be built as a multi player game. The single-player experience should be built around that. Also, all the single-player modes should support up to the maximum number of players multi player does. That adds a lot of replay value.

Joking aside, I think we may have another "Snake" situation, as Suda 51 is another of Sakurai's friends, and he's mentioned that he wants to see Travis in Smash.
Oh, and he's in Brawl's credits, so it isn't farfetched.

Shaddup you conspiracy theorist.

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(I'm joking! SHH!!!)

No really, I feel, like Tails (and maybe Dr. Eggman) we overlook him a bit. Regardless, the odds look like they way against Travis Touchdowns, but our simple grasp of a character's (playable) odds have been very wrong before.

 

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Damn right. Now I'm going to kill you like I did my husband.

Wasn't Kuma your husband at one point?

 

[Deleted member]

Dr. Mario as an extremely last minute add on or as a unique character is a good idea. Other than that, no. Maybe a Lucas-esk clone or better would be okay, although honestly (and I hope Golden isn't listening) Waluigi would probably be a better way to go (since all he has ever been is a crappy clone).

Although explain how Waluigi would be a clone.
I don't recall him shooting fireballs, biting people (outside of Brawl in the Family, anyway), or farting.
(I almost said riding a motorcycle, but Mario Kart.)
EDIT: If I remember correctly, aren't clones only logical when the body type is similar?

 

[Johnknight1]

@ Golden

Waluigi is like Ditto; he copies everything. So, it is in the realm of possibility. Plus he has the body type to be a Wario or Luigi clone. Plus we don't know much about him, other than that he is annoying, he is a loaner, and nobody likes him but you Golden.

Oh yeah, and Ganondorf in Smash exists. Ganondorf is a clone of Captain Falcon despite never using a Falcon Punch, Falcon Kick, or Raptor Boost before. Come to think of it, Captain Falcon along with several other characters have moves they have never used before. Smash was the first time they could "show us their moves."

So it is definitely in the realm of possibility Waluigi could be a Wario or Luigi clone.

Updated my roster.
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So, Opinions and Critiques are much appriciated.
If anybody is interested, I'll post a Bowser Jr/ Shadow Mario moveset.

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• Cut Shadow Mario. He's got next to no shot at being playable. He's only been a Bowser Jr. transformation once, and that was a decade ago. Quite frankly, Super Mario Sunshine isn't hard at all to forget about.
• Re-add Toon Link. He's not going anywhere. Sakurai likes two Links too much. Plus, Link will suck, so we need at least one puseful version of Link left in Smash
• Re-add Lucario. Chances are he is staying, although it isn't guaranteed.
• Cut Krystal. 4 Star Fox characters is Star Fox overkill. I also don't think her chances are as good as everyone thinks.
• Andy has next to no hope of being playable or even getting a trophy in Smash. He's been gone a while in Advance Wars. Quite frankly, Andy may be replaced in Advance Wars.
• Magnus is never going to happen. His chances are nil.
• The Duck Hunt Dog will never happen. Again, no shot.

Also, your roster size is 57 characters total. I expect 47-55 characters, so I think you should cut two of "WTF?" random characters.[/COLLAPSE]

 

[Arcadenik]

Damn right. Now I'm going to kill you like I did my husband.

Seriously though, you act a douche, and then when I do it back, you whine? Cry me a river kitty cat.

You are the douche here, not I. It isn't my fault your sarcasm detector malfunctioned tonight. Your post is filled with tears of bitterness. Dry those tears... You don't want to cause water damage to your wooden doll. Maybe Grandma Impa can dry those tears off your cheeks... Hey! No! Stop that! Bad dog!

*Duck Hunt Dog drops the chewed out doll from his sloppy mouth*

 

[Johnknight1]

Ugh, you guys are getting chippy. Not again...

Who needs Rare when we have a healthy Retro?

Well we don't need Rare, we just need their IP's

Quote from the Truth! Joanna Dark, Banjo, Conker, James Bond (and all relate weapons from Golden eye and Perfect Dark) would be PERFECT in Smash!

 

[Shorts]

You are the douche here, not I. It isn't my fault your sarcasm detector malfunctioned tonight. Your post is filled with tears of bitterness. Dry those tears... You don't want to cause water damage to your wooden doll. Maybe Grandma Impa can dry those tears off your cheeks... Hey! No! Stop that! Bad dog!

*Duck Hunt Dog drops the chewed out doll from his sloppy mouth*

I like how it becomes okay to be a douche when you use this smiley

Cry me a riverrrr <3

 

[Johnknight1]

This song should be in Smash. And hopefully it will calm you beeheezes down.

 

[Arcadenik]

Y so srs?

 

[Johnknight1]

Why so not as awesome as Johnknight1=???

K. Rool was always an entertaining final boss.

There could be a terrible Donkey Kong game made, but if it had a Donkey Kong Country 1-3/Donkey Kong 64-grade K. Rool final boss fight that both epic and silly, we would remember that fight as a "classic" and forget how terrible the game was.

After beating the King K. Rool boss fight in Donkey Kong 64, I forgot about the God forsaken stupid mini games.... mostly...

 

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I like how it becomes okay to be a douche when you use this smiley

This is sig worthy.


As much as I would love to see where this Shortie Arcadenik war goes, I have to go to bed. Later.

 

[Johnknight1]

I use smiles all the time, and get away with all kinds of crap.

I once told Triple Dash I got it on with his momma, poppa, grandpoppa, grandmahmah, and all of his other relatives and friends, and he didn't care because I used a smiley.

Also, if K. Rool is playable, there needs to be a DKC-style boss fight, period. Also, Kaptain K. Rool and Dr. K. Rool or whatever from DKC 2 and 3 = awesome alternate outfits!

 

[Arcadenik]

A DKC style boss fight? But most of those boss fights usually consist of jumping on the boss's head or throwing objects at them. How do we translate that into Smash style?

 

[Johnknight1]

@ Arcadenik
That's how you defeat them and what you attack them with, not the style. That method could be used (hint: footstool hopping), and/or we could get all kinds of items and stuff.

Really Arc, I think you, myself, and other fellow Donkey Kong Country fans on here could think of some bosses, boss ideas, and awesome stuff that could make for epic Donkey Kong (Country) boss battles or Donkey Kong (Country) enemies in Smash.

Marry any of your allies?

How progressive, Nintendo.

*waits for a Gay Marriage reference in the game to create a flame war*
*sees it and goes off the grab some popcorn*
*Lots of stupid arguments both ways
*Is entertained*​

 

[Arcadenik]

Footstool hopping wasn't very useful or practical... Sometimes it seems like it happened randomly during matches. I think that mechanism could be more refined in Smash 4.

Speaking of DKC bosses, I would love to see Kleever from DKC2 as an item. Imagine a pirate sword that can shoot fireballs!

The idea isn't so farfetched. Uprising have swords that shoot beams and whatnot. Maybe it would be cool if Sakurai had thought about how Kleever reminded him of the Uprising weapons.

 

[Johnknight1]

THE BURGER KNIGHT HAS RETURNED! all caps

If that a reference to me Triple Dash, lol=???

Krom x Marth, brought to you by... Nintendo ;D

INCEST CONFIRMED, w00t! Time to tap mah long dead but recently revived as a zombie great-great-great-great-great-great grandfather! Bam Chicka Wah Wah!

GARDEVIOR IS POPULAR IN GENERAL, NOT JUST BY FURRY/POKEPORN LOVERS.

I hate furries, and I like Gardevior. Actually, I like most anamorphic psychic Pokémon, especially all the Abra and Drowsy evolutions... and Mew and Mewtwo.

 

[Elyssa Xey Hexen]

There is a few changes that absolutely have to be made regarding Snake and Olimar. First off is that broken range. Those two characters are ridiculous. Olimar's Grab and Fsmash should have more cool down. Snake's tilts should have slower start-up. The ending lag is fine on Snake's tilts. Other than that, I suppose I'd like to see jankier stages.

Perhaps some randome appearance from the Lufia series if anyone has ever played those games. Sinistreal of chaos knocking on the front door of peach's castle. whahaha

dtj hilt abd :stupidfox: infern angelis

 

[Luco]

Umm, maybe I chose the wrong time to drop in... :/

But since i'm here now... Hi guys! School is eating up time and stuff and exams and more stuff and... Oh look, it's gonna be holidays soon!

Also, i'd post music but... Library computers, what can you do?

Wait... Are furries like the dogs and things that pretty much just stand on two legs and do cute things? If so, I like the ones that aren't of a disgusting nature.

And I like most pokemon... *goes on daydream rant about having a cafe where riolus are waiters and all the legendary fairy pokemon play tip in a nearby forest at night*

Teehee! ^^

EDIT: Well I have Lufia II, but really need to get around to playing it. If you liked Lufia, Xeylode, then try out terranigma. I haven't played Lufia yet, but from all I hear, Terranigma is just as good an RPG if not better (and I have played terranigma... It's one of the few games that has ever made me cry in sadness. It's such an amazing SNES game... It's gameplay is solid, even it's stealth missions ((the one where you have to go through dragoon castle and not walk in to the spotlight of the guards) - while primitive - are amazing. Ohhhh, it's just such a good game!!!!!!)) )

 

[Johnknight1]

Footstool hopping wasn't very useful or practical... Sometimes it seems like it happened randomly during matches. I think that mechanism could be more refined in SSB4.

Footstool Hopping could also be super strong against certain bosses, or be the only way to hurt them, on top of items. It isn't that hard to tweak for one boss battle.

Plus it would be cool if Smash could allow us to, in a way, revive/recreate/relive some epic boss battles from the epic franchises with playable characters and content in Smash Bros. That would be pretty much amazing, especially since we could fight these bosses with all these excellent characters.

Speaking of DKC bosses, I would love to see Kleever from DKC2 as an item. Imagine a pirate sword that can shoot fireballs!

Sounds like a better common enemy to me, actually. I would love it if there was a version of the Assist Trophy that summoned common enemies from the single-player mode, possibly to fight for you. That or just have the Assist Trophy able to summon common enemies.

Also, it would be awesome if Assist Trophies, like Pokéballs, occasionally summoned random rare creatures. However, instead of "legendaries," the Assist Trophies would summon bosses. That would be pretty friggen SUPER AWESOME!!!

Edit: We scared away the guests. SWEEEEETTTTT!!!!

 

[Arcadenik]

King Dedede is a boss in Kirby games and he uses generic enemies for Side B and Final Smash. Taking a page for King K. Rool, I think it would be fitting if he used Klaptraps for at least one of his special moves. Oh, and Medusa could use Shemums for one of her special moves. You know, like Snake Man from Mega Man 3?

As for Assist Trophies that summon generic enemies, the only one I can think of is Ado from Kirby's Dream Land 3.

I think it would be interesting if N was an Assist Trophy who summoned Reshiram, Zekrom, or Kyurem.

 

[Luco]

Well I have to go soon, so really just hanging about for the moment

Oooooh! Someone PLEASE tell the star man I said hi?

now THAT WOULD be scary, arcade. I'd love to see them, no doubt, but as an assist trophy? That'd be intense to deal with. :o

Oop, I've gotta go guys! Got no more time left! great seeing you again! Remember to tell star I said hi, and i'll try to be back asap! Byeeeee! *waves*

 

[Johnknight1]

There is a few changes that absolutely have to be made regarding Snake and Olimar. First off is that broken range. Those two characters are ridiculous. Olimar's Grab and Fsmash should have more cool down. Snake's tilts should have slower start-up. The ending lag is fine on Snake's tilts. Other than that, I suppose I'd like to see jankier stages.

I doubt Olimar and Snake's range (at least for Snake) will remain that way. Marth's ridiculous sword range and grab range in Melee was taken away (which is why he has such a smaller sword), and Shiek's grab mechanics and range was also modified from Melee.

Perhaps some randome appearance from the Lufia series if anyone has ever played those games.

Never played it or heard of it, but random references, trophies, stickers, NPCs, enemies, Assist Trophy characters, bosses, etc. are always something we could use more of.

 

[Aurane]

Toon Link is the only reason I haven't sold Brawl back to Game Stop. I haven't sold a game to anything since the 90's. That's my opinion on Brawl, and how much replay value I get out of that game! If these forthcoming smash bros games are as crappy as Brawl competitively and Toon Link is gone, I might not buy them. I'm dead serious.

I wake up to this. God, Brawl is pressured so much... I seriously hope they keep Brawl standards, but they fix some errors.

I can't play Melee anymore. That's what Brawl does to a person.

Also, I hate all of you.

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I'll be gone for the majority of the day. I'm going to a concert.

 

[Metal Overlord]

Don't forget Fulgore from Killer Instinct, John

 

[vicgur]

This song should be in Smash.

It's one of those shoe-in songs. I can't imagine this song not being in Sm4sh. It would be like not putting Link himself in the game.

Now that you mentioned Zelda music, how about something a little less likely to be in the game...?
I love that song so much! I hope Nintendo stop being butthurt with portable spin-offs for a second to put this in the game.

 

[Baskerville]

It really isn't that hard to adapt between both games. But then again I'm talking about a community of a 10 year old game mostly consisting of a bunch of elitist pricks...

 

[Metal Overlord]

64?

 

[Aurane]

Dillon's Rolling Western OST: Main Theme

Oh, and I'll just leave this here.

It really isn't that hard to adapt between both games. But then again I'm talking about a community of a 10 year old game mostly consisting of a bunch of elitist pricks...

Quote of the day. Peace out.

 

[Baskerville]

64?

I wasn't talking about 64. XD

 

[vicgur]

Dillon's Rolling Western OST: Main Theme
Oh, and I'll just leave this here.

I was listening to it, when I saw an interesting comment for the video:

"Dillon needs to get in SSB4. There's no excuse; He's, in my opinion, a better choice than Muddy Mole or Excadrill. Get my badass newcoming favorite character in

Anyway, the music of the game is nice. I love the Spaghetti Western Movies style of it.
Oh, and one cannot die without hearing to this at least once.

It really isn't that hard to adapt between both games. But then again I'm talking about a community of a 10 year old game mostly consisting of a bunch of elitist pricks...

Thank you very much. You deserve some kind of prize for that comment.

 

[Metal Overlord]

Lol, I know you weren't Falchion, I was just jokingly referencing how it's always about Melee vs Brawl and how 64 never gets any love from anybody

 

[Mario & Sonic Guy]

I'd wait for Dillon to get a second game before considering him as a playable. Until then, he's just an Assist Trophy input.

 

[Baskerville]

Lol, I know you weren't Falchion, I was just jokingly referencing how it's always about Melee vs Brawl and how 64 never gets any love from anybody

*pats shoulder*
64 will be in everyone's hearts.

 

[vicgur]

I think the main problem with Dillon is that his franchise is still brand new. The series has to plant it's roots before growing to a "playable character" level. I think the series has to grow a little for that.

 

[Mypantisgone]

Well,did the ice climbers get a second game?(srsly,i have no idea)

If there are many alt costumes,maybe for sonic,but i doubt it,and he as many of his own moves,CL4WS FTW!

 

[vicgur]

Well,did the ice climbers get a second game?(srsly,i have no idea)

No, but the game was already old enough to "plant its roots", as I said before.
Also, their inclusion was just Sakurai being a massive troll.

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Not complaining. I actually like those guys.

NOTE: All this "plant roots" talk is just a speculation of mine. It may be total bull****. I was just wondering why games like Golden Sun and Sin & Punishment didn't have more content in Brawl, and that's kinda the reason I thought of. It's all about people recognising those series...

Having said that, I say Kyle Hyde for Sm4sh.

EDIT: Just imagined how it would be to have Mr. Hyde in a Sm4sh and about Cing having gone bankrupt, leaving their series in gaming limbo. I'm now a Kyle Hyde supporter.
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DON'T LET THE LEGACY DIE!