New Smash Bros for WiiU

[Oasis_S]

Yeah, don't forget Tri can read Japanese.

So basically he said that having a trailer for E3 was set. So to get work done quickly as posssible they outsourced the work load to make it be done quicker. The product for Melee as we saw it took about 2 months.

THANK YOU OASIS *saves link* That's going in the essay

So basically, he wanted to have a trailer for E3, and he did what needed to be done to make it happen.

So, IF HE WANTS TO, he can have a trailer for us this time.

 

[---]

Yeah, you should just look around through the old Melee site. You'll find some gems.

I found that Sakurai had considered Luigi's Poltergust, and that Yoshi's Egg Roll was inspired by Kirby's Wheel ability.

I have before (although not that extensively).

afk "Playing Final Fantasy. My White Mage is down! Repeat my White Mage is down!"

 

[Conviction]

Yep, exactly. His team is larger this time around right? So it's all up to Sakurai's determination drive. If it's anything like Melee's things will be done with the quickness and Sakurai will hate work hours all over again LOL

EDIT: Times like these make me miss FanMan, I decided to check his profile. He was active yesterday. V___V

 

[Metal Overlord]

Yeah, SSBF was awesome, but I'm sure he and Omega'll be back by E3/summertime

HE CAN'T AVOID US FOREVER

 

[---]

EDIT: Times like these make me miss FanMan, I decided to check his profile. He was active yesterday. V___V

He was active yesterday!?

**** Not only is he ignoring us about the BR, he's refused the friend request I sent him.


Out of curiousity, does anyone else think that if Sakurai had received the proper time he wanted to have with Melee, that Melee would have turned out closer to Brawl?

 

[Oasis_S]

All Sakurai really has to do is decide what characters he wants, lol. After that, all he has to say is "You do it."

*Couldn't find a picture of Gekko Moriah in time.*

 

[~ Valkyrie ~]

Played Paper Mario 64 almost to the end. Seriously, Jr Troopa should've that damning Gary Oak-status around him!!!!

Spoiler

Right when you meet Koopa Bros. again in Bowser's Castle, you are thinking you're going to kick their ***** in an epic battle.

Then someone comes in and just shoos them off with his badassery. Yes: Who else than, Jr., MOTHERF***kin, Troopa.

 

[Wizzrobe]

He was active yesterday!?

**** Not only is he ignoring us about the BR, he's refused the friend request I sent him.


Out of curiousity, does anyone else think that if Sakurai had received the proper time he wanted to have with Melee, that Melee would have turned out closer to Brawl?

Yea it probably would have been closer to Brawl but I am glad it isnt.

I like melee the way it is.

 

[Big-Cat]

Spoiler

Source 1 ORIGIN

As seen here, Sakurai and Iwata both acknowledge the fact that all previous Smash installments had their balancing issues Obviously . Moving right along, let's look a little deeper here and get what we are here for, speculating. "...how they don't want characters to "feel the same," adding that specific traits/strengths/weaknesses are intentionally built to differentiate..." Now, looking at it, one could the feel they are changing characters from previous installments (that stay of course) so they won't feel the same. In other words that don't play the same. Now it's connection time, aiyyo N, you might not be around to read this but, this very quote can be the exact reason why you don't like the Brawl compared to the Melee . They are striving to give each game a new feel and with that the characters must change.

This pretty much says that anything can happen to a character inbetween games, acknowledging that changes are bound to happen.

Stuff on clones

On the shoto clones, that's in reference to a specific playstyle, and should not be used to repalce the word clone. By your definition, Guile, Charlie, and Remy are all shotoclones, but they play nothing like Ryu, Ken, Akuma, Sakura or Dan who are shotos. IIRC, Morrigan in Darkstalkers is considered this along with Ky Kiske in Guilty Gear and Jin Kisaragi in BlazBlue.

And while you do present a very positive aspect on clones, I feel that there are times when it's avoidable. Every "clone" at the time of their debut save for Falco, Roy, and Dr. Mario had stuff to draw from to differentiate themselves from their counterparts. If you are going to use the same specials on another character, make it a way where they seem more personalized. Falco in Brawl is actually a pretty good example as his reflector was changed completely, but giving him a Flash Kick Up B and maybe change his Falco Illusion would set him apart for good. Another example would be Gouken in SF4. He has the fireballs (three possible directions AND chargeable), tatsu (goes upward when on the ground), and DP(only in his super and ultra) of the shotos, but he uses them completely different and has some other moves in his arsenal such as a high/low parry and juggle making back throw. If we want to explore potential characters, there's Kumatora who can use the pre-existing PSI moves in completely different ways, especially like C. Viper's specials as I've discussed in the past.

I'm just ticked whenever their potential is skipped out to make them a remix of another character, especially Ganondorf, a playstyle barely anyone likes in Brawl.

 

[Johnknight1]

@John: I agree wholeheartedly, I think the delay of Sonic's apperance/or lack of apperance could be bad. Hopefully it'll be the former instead of the latter.

Sonic not being in the game would be bad for business for both Nintendo and SEGA.

 

[~ Valkyrie ~]

Lulz Oas.

So who you think will be revealed in the trailer if it will be made?

My bets are:

-Toad(Fan Favorite)
-Ridley(Anticipated Newcomer)
-Little Mac(Retro Modern Kickass)
-Isaac(Obscure-Famous Fanbase Favorite
-Megaman(3rd Party Hypemaker)

 

[Conviction]

@Metal&Tri: We'll get him eventually.

@Tri: I don't think so, I think movesets would have been fleshed out more, clones less cloney.

@John: It'd be bad business for this forum

@Kuma: I see, I've used the term incorrectly then XD I'll use you quote for future use in the next update in the essay.

 

[Metal Overlord]

Only Gary Mother****ing Oak can have Gary Mother****ing Oak status, Horsetail

But yeah, I'd say:

Saki
Mega Man/3rd Party
King K. Rool
Palutena or Medusa, whichever gets in
Little Mac

Or some **** like that haha

 

[Conviction]

@Tri: Oh yeah, and more characters.

 

[~ Valkyrie ~]

Metal: Jr. Mother****in Troopa should challenge Gary Mother****in Oak's status.
He's just that persistent, annoying, and so damning unexpected!
(-ìΔí-)

Even Goombario is aware of Jr Mother****in Troopa's dedication to annoy and bully Mario throughout the adventure.

 

[Conviction]

If I may make a case for those that nay for a trailer. Sakurai could always pull a Sonic Adventure 2 and make a misleading trailer.

 

[Metal Overlord]

Reveal Sakurai himself as a newcomer in Smash before anybody trololololo

 

[~ Valkyrie ~]

Sakurai looking so girly, if he's the newcomer girls would draw some Marth-esque fanart of Sakurai. XDD

 

[Oasis_S]

Since the Brawl trailer spotlighted Final Smashes, I figure the Sm4sh trailer will showcase the connectivity between the Wii U and 3DS. SOMETHING new.

Maybe that mysterious "building up" of characters thing.

 

[Conviction]

I really, REALLY, really hope Sm4sh won't have some type of RPG level thing.

 

[Big-Cat]

@Kuma: I see, I've used the term incorrectly then XD I'll use you quote for future use in the next update in the essay.

Can't wait! Is there anything else I can do to help?

 

[Metal Overlord]

Whatchu mean by that, Iblis

 

[~ Valkyrie ~]

Oas: Indeed. But has Sakurai been thinking about that much? Also, WiiU's not even released!

 

[Conviction]

@Kuma: If I need any more fighting terms or want to make any relations to other fighters I will need your help.

@Metal

EDIT: DERP, I forgot about the Wii U. Is there any new news on it?? LOL

 

[Metal Overlord]

OHHHHHHHHHHH that. I know what you mean now. DO NOT WANT

And no, nothing yet if you've already heard about the NFC thing haha

 

[Conviction]

NFC?

What's that?

 

[Big-Cat]

@Kuma: If I need any more fighting terms or want to make any relations to other fighters I will need your help.

One thing that I think might help is you get the message across that it doesn't matter what you got but how you use it.

 

[Conviction]

Like body weight? LOL

 

[Metal Overlord]

Near Field Communication

http://www.engadget.com/2012/01/27/wii-u-controller-to-pack-nfc-says-iwata-create-new-gameplay-op/

 

[~ Valkyrie ~]

Goin' off now- byebees

And don't expect me to tail horses. (-'?'-)

/Actually the whole "Young Horsetail"-name comes from my other forum name "Tsukushi-kun", which I lifted from PKMN's Bugsy's japanese name.

 

[Conviction]

Wooow, that's definitely interesting Metal. Hmm virtual wallets XD also it sounds like DLC is going to be big on the Wii U. This wouldn't be the first Nintendo has brought it up would it?

Also, I think you'd be interested in that Sonic Adventure 2 Link I posted Metal. We almost didn't get Shadow!

 

[Metal Overlord]

Gewdbye Horsetail

They brought it up before, Iblis, and I'll check out the link right now

 

[Conviction]

Some unfinished games just come out go

 

[Big-Cat]

Like body weight? LOL

Yeah, sure, let's go with that.

And Shortie will love this. Someone managed to get Elena out of SFxTK's disc, but her animations are somewhat choppy so she's probably not finished by any means.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2w97xsUbJHY&feature=player_embedded

 

[Shorts]

my **** hurts kuma

 

[Conviction]

Your what?

 

[Metal Overlord]

Prolly his peener

Nice find Iblis! I never knew Tails was added in late, I guess that explains why his missions barely had anything to do with the story

And Shadow's name was Terios? Da fuq? LOL

 

[Conviction]

I like Terios but I grown to the name Shadow.

EDIT: Kuma, this looks realllllllllllllllly fun.

 

[Metal Overlord]

It's not a bad name, certainly better than NAILS the Bat, but still, that surprised me

 

[Conviction]

Nails was a fail name that I'm glad that left. LOL