New Smash Bros for WiiU

[KingRidley]

This is your dream roster? Lol, that's a pretty awesome roster, in fact, that roster actually isn't completely out of the realm of the possibility...

Except for Mewtwo. Just for that, you get no cookie :fuuu:

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lol jk

Thanks. I really want Mewtwo back too, if I could pick a seventh Pokemon character, without a doubt it would be him.

@King Ridley: Only one I think is pushing it is Tom Nook. Agree with the rest.

May I ask why Tom Nook?

 

[TheFirstPoppyBro]

Thanks. I really want Mewtwo back too, if I could pick a seventh Pokemon character, without a doubt it would be him.


May I ask why Tom Nook?

IIRC, in an Iwata Asks interview, characters such as the Animal Crosser and Nintendogs were deconfirmed Pre-Brawl.

Could someone bring up the picture again?

 

[Deleted member]

May I ask why Tom Nook?

Because Sakurai already said no to Animal Crossing characters.

 

[TheFirstPoppyBro]

Because Sakurai already said no to Animal Crossing characters.

That's exactly the picture I was talking about.

 

[Deleted member]

It might not. They may progress forward and the third party characters don't come. The only way I see it being deconfirmed is Sakurai says they aren't coming.

But if he is not able to get third-parties/is not willing to get more, then wouldn't he deconfirmed third-parties if they aren't feasible to him to get this time around?

There's no reason to get people hyped over the concept of third-parties in Smash 4 during development, then the full roster is revealed and they are completely gone. Deconfirming early on would at least possibly bottle up the whining that would ensue from it.

 

[TheFirstPoppyBro]

But if he is not able to get third-parties/is not willing to get more, then wouldn't he deconfirmed third-parties if they aren't feasible to him to get this time around?

There's no reason to get people hyped over the concept of third-parties in Smash 4 during development, then the full roster is revealed and they are completely gone. Deconfirming early on would at least possibly bottle up the whining that would ensue from it.

Doesn't Capcom want to stick a character in Smash?
Snake's creator also wanted Snake in Smash.
Sonic is popular.
What more do you need?

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

They answered it for me, King Ridley. However, MY reasons is that I think the slot could be used for more unique and notable characters. Or even a 5th Third Party. Or a Nintendo series NOT shown. Mach Rider, for example.

Keep in mind that I would be fine with this roster regardless, although I would prefer Vaati over Ghirahim since he's not "flavor of the month". However... it's a very solid roster as is. Excellent job.

 

[SmashChu]

But if he is not able to get third-parties/is not willing to get more, then wouldn't he deconfirmed third-parties if they aren't feasible to him to get this time around?

There's no reason to get people hyped over the concept of third-parties in Smash 4 during development, then the full roster is revealed and they are completely gone. Deconfirming early on would at least possibly bottle up the whining that would ensue from it.

Perhaps, and he might for the reason Oasis said.

On Paper Mario, I would like to see a stage from that game that is the stage you battle on with crazy effects.

 

[Deleted member]

On Paper Mario, I would like to see a stage from that game that is the stage you battle on with crazy effects.

Many people have suggested that the audience can damage you like they do in the RPG battles in the first two Paper Mario games (and I believe the 3DS game as well).

 

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Didn't Star already do that stage concept?

 

[Mario & Sonic Guy]

Hey guys. New here. I'm going to put up my dream roster for SSB4. Feel free to ignore me or give a rating, or yell at me for randomly popping this in here (I don't know if there's a separate thread for making rosters...?). But this thing is going down, right now!

[COLLAPSE="My roster"]* = unlock


Mario-

- Mario
- Peach
- Bowser
- Bowser Jr/Shadow Mario (Transformation character. Probably not a popular idea, but I've kind of always seen this happening, and I think it makes Bowser Jr more of a unique character, separating him from his Pa. I'm not good at thinking up movesets, but I think Shadow Mario would use his paintbrush to attack. Bowser Jr. by himself is perfectly fine though)
- Luigi*
- Toad*

Donkey Kong-

- Donkey Kong
- Diddy Kong
- King K.Rool
- Dixie Kong* (rounding out the DK franchise.)

Yoshi-

- Yoshi
- Kamek (Not a popular choice. I personally have always wanted him. Since Yoshi is a separate franchise from Mario, it should have at least another character under its logo; if not now, then eventually. Other choices for another Yoshi character would be Birdo, or a Baby Mario/Luigi tagteam. )

Wario-

- Wario
(Wario is a separate franchise from Mario, so another character should join him. However, since Wario himself is new, another character joining him isn't a huge necessity IMO. Yoshi has been here for all the games, so I'd give him more attention. If a Wario character is needed, I'd say Ashley, I believe her name is. I haven't played a WarioWare game for awhile, so I'm a bit fuzzy on the characters. She's the only one I can kind of recall.)

Zelda-

- Link
- Zelda
- Tingle
- Ganondorf*
- Ghirahim*

Kirby-

- Kirby
- Meta Knight
- King Dedede

Pokemon-

- Pikachu
- Pokemon Trainer Gold (three starters from Gold/Silver.)
- Plusle/Minun
- Jigglypuff*
- Lucario*
- Zoroark*

(You'll notice all five generations of Pokemon have reps, plus Jigglypuff, who is essential. Why did I pick Gold/Silver trainer? Next step from Red/Blue, duh)

Metroid-

- Samus/Zero Suit
- Ridley (This must happen.)

F-Zero-

- Captain Falcon
- Black Shadow* (F-Zero seriously needs a second character. I know its not really popular, and not really Nintendo's favorite franchise, but c'mon. If not Black Shadow, Samurai Goron time!)

- Mother

- Lucas
- Ness
- Claus* (really pushing it, may not be possible, but still would love to see him)

- Fire Emblem

- Ike
- Marth
- Roy/someone else* (I'm new to Fire Emblem. I'm currently playing Sacred Stones. I would say Erika/brother with strange name tagteam, or one of the two, but I don't know how well that would received).

Star Fox-

- Fox
- Krystal
- Falco*
- Wolf*

The Others-

- Pit (Kid Icarus)
- Mr.Game and Watch*
- R.O.B.*
- Ice Climbers
- Captain Olimar (Pikmin)
- Little Mac (Punch-Out!)
- Saki (Sin & Punishment)
- Isaac (Golden Sun)
- Starfy (The Legendary Starfy)
- Tom Nook* (Animal Crossings)
- Prince Sable* (For the Frogs the Bell Toll. I just heard of him from that "leak". Actually saw a awesome moveset on here for him, and now I really want him.)

Third-Party

- Sonic* (Sonic the Hedgehog)
- Solid Snake* (Metal Gear)
- Megaman*
- Slime* (Dragon Quest)

And we are done. 56 characters?!? Eh, I get carried away. Hopefully there is DLC...?[/COLLAPSE]

Welcome aboard. Now, for your roster, some of your inputs are questionable.

Kamek looks more like Assist Trophy material in my eyes.

For LoZ, Sheik and Toon Link are missing, and I heavily look down on Ghirahim. Tingle is somewhat questionable.

For the miscellaneous inputs, Tom Nook, like Kamek, looks more like he'd serve the Assist Trophy role.

3rd party choices appear to be manageable, although I'd probably ditch Solid Snake for someone else. But that's just me.

Apart from those things, not too bad for a first go.

Who likes the idea of replacing trophies with bobble heads? Lol

*sarcasm*

Oh sure, make everyone a bobble head so that we can be as jolly as ever.

*end sarcasm*

Personally, I think the trophies are the best option for the Smash Bros. series.

 

[ChronoBound]

There's no reason to get people hyped over the concept of third-parties in Smash 4 during development, then the full roster is revealed and they are completely gone. Deconfirming early on would at least possibly bottle up the whining that would ensue from it.

Yep. I have a strong feeling that one of the first roster questions Sakurai will be asked will pertain to the status of third-party characters.

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

@King Ridley: ...Also, put Sheik back. Yeah. Don't know why you cut her... You didn't even put Impa in.

 

[gsninja]

I wouldn't mind third-party characters being removed entirely. If we still keep them--Which we almost definitely will--There won't be more than three total. That's how I see it, anyways. Snake, Sonic, and Zero just to troll Mega Man fans.

 

[Oasis_S]

Rush would be better than Zero.

 

[Shorts]

I still think third-party characters is one of the first tidbits of information we'll learn. He'll HAVE to make his decision from the start, and everybody is going to be asking him about it anyway.

Of course, he could just pull a "I'm sorry, but I can't answer that question at this time."

I think IF he doesn't flat out decide not to add them, this is the kind of answer we will get. Just remember HOW DIFFICULT it is to add third parties. Sakurai said it's EXTREMELY HARD to do. He makes it sound like a pain.

And, I don't really like any of the three most likely choices, so I could care less if Sonic, Snake, or Megs shows up.

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

I wouldn't mind third-party characters being removed entirely. If we still keep them--Which we almost definitely will--There won't be more than three total. That's how I see it, anyways. Snake, Sonic, and Zero just to troll Mega Man fans.

According to one of the producers of Capcom, his choices were MegaMan and M.Bison.

Likewise, I would rather they stay. And a minimum two added. I have no doubts that securing the rights to Sonic and Snake will be fairly easy. It's the rest that is hard.

 

[TheFirstPoppyBro]

WAIT A SECOND.
Megaman not in MvC3=Leway for Sm4sh?
Maybe Capcom didn't want him to be in too many fighting games in a row, so they denied him in MvC3 because he's been secretly confirmed for Sm4sh.

YES. THERE IS NO DENYING IT. MY THEORY IS THE STRONGEST!

 

[gsninja]

According to one of the producers of Capcom, his choices were MegaMan and M.Bison.

Likewise, I would rather they stay. And a minimum two added. I have no doubts that securing the rights to Sonic and Snake will be fairly easy. It's the rest that is hard.

Fo' real? M. Bison would be fun, especially if one of his taunts was just him going YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES

WAIT A SECOND.
Megaman not in MvC3=Leway for Sm4sh?
Maybe Capcom didn't want him to be in too many fighting games in a row, so they denied him in MvC3 because he's been secretly confirmed for Sm4sh.

YES. THERE IS NO DENYING IT. MY THEORY IS THE STRONGEST!

AW **** GURL NO U DI'IN'T

Best part about that is that it's entirely plausible.

 

[Mario & Sonic Guy]

There are still other 3rd parties that are pretty much at good terms with Nintendo though. While there's Sega, Konami, and Capcom, Namco and Square Enix still need to be taken into consideration.

From what I dug up, all five of those 3rd party franchises have been involved with the Mario series in some way or form.

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

Fo' real? M. Bison would be fun, especially if one of his taunts was just him going YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES

Eeyup. I forgot the link, but it's pretty neat. Was an UK interview. Anyway, I agree. If we only chose Capcom, and allowed up to two characters... I'd say one Joke character/Key character and one Major Character.

Sega: Sonic, Rouge/Max(Shining Force)
Konami: Solid Snake, Simon Belmont
Capcom: MegaMan, M. Bison(USA name)

 

[Propeller Toad]

It would be great to see Megaman in Smash. I feel that he is one of the third party characters that would be great to see alongside the Nintendo characters (as he did in the past).

I also have a strong feeling that we will be seeing a Square Enix rep in this game. One such indication of it will be that Sakurai would probably know more of the DQ characters if anything as a result of Fortune Street (since he did upload a picture of his copy of the game on his twitter). This is just the start!

 

[Oasis_S]

Some have said the support for Mega Man is no where near where Sonic's was pre-Brawl, and that's surely true, but after the first trailer, isn't it just going to skyrocket?

Which is ANNOYING since NINTENDO CHARACTERS aren't the ones being REQUESTED THE MOST. C'MON NOW. RIDLEY? K. ROOL? THE MAC MAN?

 

[Yomi's Biggest Fan]

One thing that need to return is Language Options. In other words, being able to switch to Japanese voices.

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

One thing that need to return is Language Options. In other words, being able to switch to Japanese voices.

Definitely. Likewise, all the same Masterpieces, Trophies, Stickers, etc. No differences among the versions are needed. Except maybe removing a non-appropriate song at most.

 

[Metal Overlord]

Please take away Masterpieces, that **** is sooooo unnecessary

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

Please take away Masterpieces, that **** is sooooo unnecessary

My only problem was lack of Earthbound/Fire Emblem 3.

However, I do admit it was pointless too. Waste of space(albeit, it didn't take up THAT much, but a lot of that could be used somewhere cooler. Like a better Stage Builder?)

 

[Oasis_S]

How exactly do Masterpieces work? Those games aren't actually on the disc, are they...?

 

[Metal Overlord]

My only problem was lack of Earthbound/Fire Emblem 3.

However, I do admit it was pointless too. Waste of space(albeit, it didn't take up THAT much, but a lot of that could be used somewhere cooler. Like a better Stage Builder?)

Masterpieces are the kinda stuff you would expect, from say the Virtual Console, not from an actual game

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

Masterpieces are the kinda stuff you would expect, from say, the Virtual Console, not from an actual game

It's advertisement for the VC, actually. Except for Earthbound and Fire Emblem 3.

Both should've been in all 3 versions, though.

 

[Mario & Sonic Guy]

One thing that need to return is Language Options. In other words, being able to switch to Japanese voices.

While not entirely necessary, having language settings could still be implemented, but certain regions would only get certain languages.

NTSC-U: English, French, Spanish
NTSC-J: Japanese
PAL: Dutch, English, French, German, Italian, Spanish

How exactly do Masterpieces work? Those games aren't actually on the disc, are they...?

The Masterpieces have their own separate partitions, which are included in the Brawl ISO. If those partitions are not in the Brawl ISO, you can't play the demos.

Anyway, Masterpieces are a huge waste, if you asked me. There are other things that can be utilized for Smash 4, which can be better.

 

[TheFirstPoppyBro]

How exactly do Masterpieces work? Those games aren't actually on the disc, are they...?

It gives you at MOST(and this is just Ocarina of Time, Starfox 64, and I believe Super Metroid) 5 MINUTES to play each game. Some are shorter. Kirby's Adventure and Super Mario Bros. 2 are 2 minutes. Donkey Kong(arcade), Ice Climber, and F-Zero were about 40 seconds. Completely pointless.

Starfox 64 gives enough time to get to the boss of the first level, Super Metroid gives enough time to kill Ridley the first time, and OoT... You MIGHT get to Gohma if you're insanely fast.

 

[Propeller Toad]

I definitely agree with the rest of you that the masterpieces were useless. More like extra advertisements to redirect players to the VC.

I also would like to see the return of character specific Target Smash stages. I really loved the unique stages made for each character in Melee as they all proved to have a different twist at times. Brawl's target smash mode lacked that individuality, and in my opinion it was a lot more dull than in Melee with the same stages per level for all characters.

 

[Mario & Sonic Guy]

I definitely agree with the rest of you that the masterpieces were useless. More like extra advertisements to redirect players to the VC.

I also would like to see the return of character specific Target Smash stages. I really loved the unique stages made for each character in Melee as they all proved to have a different twist at times. Brawl's target smash mode lacked this individuality, and in my opinion it was a lot more dull than in Melee with the generic stages.

I did make an input, regarding Target Smash, in which each character would get his/her own music theme for his/her Target Smash stage. This would also be applied to Platform Jump (Board the Platforms) if that ever makes a comeback.

 

[Propeller Toad]

I did make an input, regarding Target Smash, in which each character would get his/her own music theme for his/her Target Smash stage. This would also be applied to Platform Jump (Board the Platforms) if that ever makes a comeback.

Character themes would be awesome to see in a mode such as Target Smash. Now I really would like to see its return.

Also I do miss the Board the Platforms stage as well as the Race to the Finish from Melee. Both were great fun and should make returning appearances in the new Smash Bros..

 

[Oasis_S]

The Masterpieces have their own separate partitions, which are included in the Brawl ISO. If those partitions are not in the Brawl ISO, you can't play the demos.

Anyway, Masterpieces are a huge waste, if you asked me. There are other things that can be utilized for Smash 4, which can be better.

Not totally sure what that means, but I guess that means they are on the disc after all. Seems strange though. Is there a code to remove the limits placed on each game? With Ocarina of Time and Star Fox 64 on there, I hope that didn't take up PRECIOUS MEMORY.

 

[Mario & Sonic Guy]

Character themes would be awesome to see in a mode such as Target Smash. Now I really would like to see its return.

Also I do miss the Board the Platforms stage as well as the Race to the Finish from Melee. Both were great fun and should make returning appearances in the new Smash Bros..

All of them have been stated on my changes to Classic Mode, so I'm at an agreement with you.

 

[Disfunkshunal]

Wow you guys really underrate SPM =[.

Yes oasis they're on the disk but not in the same place as the main multiplayer mode. Like how sse isnt in the same place.

Masterpieces can go die IMO.

 

[Shorts]

Sakurai added them to make up for the fact that Brawl wasn't as finished as he would like it to be.

"SORRY TAKE THIS IS PAYMENT!"

 

[yani]

Masterpiece's were a waste IMO. Give me more trophies.