New Smash Bros for WiiU

[Deleted member]

I should say I also wated to say A Rhythm Heaven stage might be a sure thing too, but I do not know just yet.

I really want to see a stage from that franchise. So much potential coming from it and having the stage influenced by music could mean epic win.

 

[TheFirstPoppyBro]

I really want to see a stage from that franchise. So much potential coming from it and having the stage influenced by music could mean epic win.

Or, you know, it could be an epic fail. Like Hanenbow.

I personally don't think that would happen, but hey, you never know.

 

[Pachinkosam]

Why the sudden interest in Holder of the Heel?

because wes got a awesome avi.
and smart and such.

 

[~ Valkyrie ~]

Or, you know, it could be an epic fail. Like Hanenbow.

I personally don't think that would happen, but hey, you never know.

I myself am very looking forward to a stage based on Rhytm Heaven- just wish that when it's announced, Sakurai won't do the whole crazy 'Dojo Hyping' again, promising so much about its good part, but still leaving us with a crappy stage!

 

[Deleted member]

Or, you know, it could be an epic fail. Like Hanenbow.

I personally don't think that would happen, but hey, you never know.

I actually liked Hanenbow a lot, although the lack of music was inexcusable.

because wes got a awesome avi.
and smart and such.

I can't take you seriously.

 

[Diddy Kong]

Hanenbow was weird. What game did it come from anyways??

 

[Deleted member]

Hanenbow was weird. What game did it come from anyways??

Electroplankton.

 

[Diddy Kong]

And what is that..?

 

[Deleted member]

And what is that..?

It's a game on the DS.

 

[BirthNote]

They pretty much spoiled the fact that Slippy was gonna be in the next game in Snake's codec convo with him.

U mad, Krystal fans?

Slippy>Krystal

And wasn't Slippy the tritagonist anyways?

Yo...I would ROTFLMAO if this happens, and if they did a good job with his moveset, I'd pick him over Wolf. XD

BTW, Peppy's the tritagonist--Slippy's the damsel in distress.

 

[yani_]

I enjoyed Hanenbow

 

[Gallowglass]

I just looked at the codex conversation with Slippy and I really don't see how this can prove that slippy will be the next in Smash. They don't even talk about fighting but talk more about building a weapon for Snake. If anything it gives hints that Snake will return *shudders*. With this theory then Slippy should have been in Brawl because he talks about him making the cloaking device.

 

[BirthNote]

Slippy also said that he'd be great for Brawl in a Lylat Cruise convo. IDC if Slippy makes it in but I would laugh if he did--especially if they reference that codec.

 

[Gallowglass]

Krystal also says, "I'm the only one who can come through a fight like this." And Peppy also states that he wants to fight.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SryfiYVOWE

Since Starfox 64 3DS didn't pan out as great as I hoped I don't have much hope for any Starfox characters now.

 

[Deleted member]

Since Starfox 64 3DS didn't pan out as great as I hoped I don't have much hope for any Starfox characters now.

This makes me REALLY want to bring out it's current sales from VGchartz to assure that the franchise will likely sell better then Command did and as such, has a good chance of continuing.

Given the sales for the game so far, I would not be surprised if it eventually broke a million, enough to convince Nintendo that Star Fox still sells.

 

[Gallowglass]

This makes me REALLY want to bring out it's current sales from VGchartz to assure that the franchise will likely sell better then Command did and as such, has a good chance of continuing.

Given the sales for the game so far, I would not be surprised if it eventually broke a million, enough to convince Nintendo that Star Fox still sells.

Oh wow I didn't know that. When it came out I didn't hear much about it. Then again I don't own a 3DS and so I'm out of the loop. This makes me excited.

 

[Zzuxon]

I really hope they don't give starfox a 4th rep. It shouldn't even have gotten Wolf. Why put in Krystal or Slippy when you could put in a new misc character, or someone who would actually be, you know, worth putting in.

 

[Conviction]

I can't take you seriously.

Does anybody?

 

[Gallowglass]

I really hope they don't give starfox a 4th rep. It shouldn't even have gotten Wolf. Why put in Krystal or Slippy when you could put in a new misc character, or someone who would actually be, you know, worth putting in.

Who do you think is more deserving? Also by the growth rate of the Smash roster you need about 10 characters to consider.

 

[Big-Cat]

People need to stop using words like deserving and representation when discussing characters. It's purely subjective. Had this been Dragon King with an original cast, we'd be more concerned about the different kind of characters could be added that would be fun and unique to play as.

I don't care if 4 Starfox characters are in the game. If they can all provide something different that no other characters can, that's fine by me. Fox, Falco, and Krystal can provide this easily. Wolf's a bit questionable, but it can be done. On the other hand, if the F-Zero characters can't bring something new to the table, they have no business being playable. This is a game, first and foremost. Fanservice comes second in priority.

 

[Diddy Kong]

Wolf is already pretty unique I think. Far more unique than Falco at least. I don't get why he should be removed or replaced as he's still quite relevant. Easily said, he's deserving of the spot.

 

[Big-Cat]

That's another word I'm tired of hearing. "Relevant".

Falco can easily be reworked where he "plays like an Arwing". So can Wolf. I liked the idea of giving him a feral stance in Brawl, but I'd like to see it be it integrated more into his moveset. I want all three to be in. What I don't want is for the Starfox characters to be "clones" of each other, effectively somehow making them Smash's shotos in the worst way possible.

EDIT: Looking at his attacks again, I'm fine with his normals, but I think something needs to be done about his specials and Final Smash (obviously). One thing that has been in the back of my mind is for him to have something like Jill's teleport. For those of you that don't know, Jill gets in a "Feral Stance" and she dash teleports in the direction of your choice. Give this to Wolf, and he can easily have an eight-way Illusion, something Fox and Falco don't have. It can make him very unpredictable, but there's the question of whether or not should it be an attack or a teleport. Maybe I'll have more later.

 

[Gallowglass]

People need to stop using words like deserving and representation when discussing characters. It's purely subjective. Had this been Dragon King with an original cast, we'd be more concerned about the different kind of characters could be added that would be fun and unique to play as.

I don't care if 4 Starfox characters are in the game. If they can all provide something different that no other characters can, that's fine by me. Fox, Falco, and Krystal can provide this easily. Wolf's a bit questionable, but it can be done. On the other hand, if the F-Zero characters can't bring something new to the table, they have no business being playable. This is a game, first and foremost. Fanservice comes second in priority.

I don't agree with this. Smash is an allstar game and people play it based on who the character is. If it was based on fighting style then they would have their own original roster. You play Smash because you can fight with Mario, Link, Pikachu, etc... not because you have a plumber, an elf, and an electric rodent.

You are correct to an extent that nobody wants clones or uninteresting fighting styles. With enough imagination every character can be unique if the effort is put into it.

 

[Big-Cat]

I don't agree with this. Smash is an allstar game and people play it based on who the character is. If it was based on fighting style then they would have their own original roster. You play Smash because you can fight with Mario, Link, Pikachu, etc... not because you have a plumber, an elf, and an electric rodent.

That's not what I'm getting at. Yes, the star power Smash has cannot be denied, but with this star power comes a lot of responsibility for the developers. They have to make sure the game is good in its own right. They can't just toss in fanservice and call it a day. And besides, how many people knew about Marth and Roy in Melee, or even Game and Watch and Ice Climbers? You probably have more people who play these characters than those that have played the games they're from.

What I'm getting at, ultimately, is this: Come for the characters, stay for the gameplay. Brawl only did the first half for me.

 

[TheFirstPoppyBro]

That's not what I'm getting at. Yes, the star power Smash has cannot be denied, but with this star power comes a lot of responsibility for the developers. They have to make sure the game is good in its own right. They can't just toss in fanservice and call it a day. And besides, how many people knew about Marth and Roy in Melee, or even Game and Watch and Ice Climbers? You probably have more people who play these characters than those that have played the games they're from.

I agree with what you're saying here, but relevant is still a usable term in character speculation for Smash. I mean, sure, G&W and the IC's weren't relevant when Melee came out, but because they appeared in Melee to begin with, they then BECAME relevant. The only characters this doesn't apply to are retros, which only make up a fraction of the fighters anyway.

I dunno, that's just my thoughts on "relevant".

 

[Gallowglass]

That's not what I'm getting at. Yes, the star power Smash has cannot be denied, but with this star power comes a lot of responsibility for the developers. They have to make sure the game is good in its own right. They can't just toss in fanservice and call it a day. And besides, how many people knew about Marth and Roy in Melee, or even Game and Watch and Ice Climbers? You probably have more people who play these characters than those that have played the games they're from.

That's kind of what I said when I mention with enough effort any character can be original. Nearly everything the ICs do is original in Smash. But the reason ICs and G&W because they represent the old retro Nintendo games. Granted the ICs got in because he saw a unique fighting system but if you look at it all the top NES characters were already represented (Mario, Link, and Samus). Sakurai himself is a Fire Emblem fan and wanted to represent it in his own game. You could say Sakurai served his personal fan service and that has promoted FE to be more popular around the world.

 

[Big-Cat]

I agree with what you're saying here, but relevant is still a usable term in character speculation for Smash. I mean, sure, G&W and the IC's weren't relevant when Melee came out, but because they appeared in Melee to begin with, they then BECAME relevant. The only characters this doesn't apply to are retros, which only make up a fraction of the fighters anyway.

I dunno, that's just my thoughts on "relevant".

But aren't you just limiting yourself if you go by what's "relevant"? That's like saying the potentially very unique Jill and Drill Dozer shouldn't be considered since she was in a one-time game from 2006 that didn't sell a whole lot.

 

[Deleted member]

Oh wow I didn't know that. When it came out I didn't hear much about it. Then again I don't own a 3DS and so I'm out of the loop. This makes me excited.

I would take this with a grain if salt, but if you go on VGchartz, it has the game at .41 million, almost at half a million in sales.

 

[Shorts]

Krystal is, and always will be a definite contender for Smash. She is the FINAL piece to thet StarFox puzzle. In terms of importance, she should have been in Brawl. At this point, she is more important than everyone but Fox and Andross. On top of that. she has a major fanbase as well (coming in at #7 on my poll). Slippy and Peppy aren't even options at this point.

It's basically, Krystal or no new StarFox character. Which you could argue about till the cows come home, and bring up stupid "representation" arguements of invalid remake points. But she is a definite contender.

Terms of importance to the SF storyline, it goes Fox, Andross, Krystal, Wolf, Falco, everyone else.

I don't think most of you realize the reason she wasn't picked for Brawl was because Sakurai simply didn't know anything about the new StarFox games and how important she was. She never had a chance as a character, and there was NO REAL Wolf vs. Krystal war, it was simply Sakurai not keeping up with the series.

Smash 4 is THE best time for Krystal, not Brawl.

 

[Big-Cat]

Not only that, but Krystal comments in one of the secret taunts that she's the only person suitable for joining the fights. If that's not acknowledging that she definitely stands a chance, nothing will. My guess is that the line was made because it was too late to add her in so they threw a bone to the fans.

 

[TheFirstPoppyBro]

But aren't you just limiting yourself if you go by what's "relevant"? That's like saying the potentially very unique Jill and Drill Dozer shouldn't be considered since she was in a one-time game from 2006 that didn't sell a whole lot.

Well, like I said, retros aren't really limited. And yes, I do consider Jill and the Drill Dozer as retro.
Honestly, I don't care about relevance, so long as they're fun to play as.

 

[Big-Cat]

Well, like I said, retros aren't really limited. And yes, I do consider Jill and the Drill Dozer as retro.
Honestly, I don't care about relevance, so long as they're fun to play as.

How is five years old retro?

 

[Oasis_S]

Any big news?

 

[Shorts]

Not only that, but Krystal comments in one of the secret taunts that she's the only person suitable for joining the fights. If that's not acknowledging that she definitely stands a chance, nothing will. My guess is that the line was made because it was too late to add her in so they threw a boner to the fans.

Let me tell you, we got one.

 

[Big-Cat]

Any big news?

Starting Christmas, I'll be having a loving relationship with King of Fighters XIII. Shortie, I strongly recommend getting this, even if the execution is tough. It's just a flat out amazing game.

Let me tell you, we got one.

******

 

[TheFirstPoppyBro]

How is five years old retro?

COUNTER-ARGUMENT:Why isn't Ness considered retro? Or Marth?

But still, I don't care. So long as they're fun to play.

 

[Shorts]

Starting Christmas, I'll be having a loving relationship with King of Fighters XIII. Shortie, I strongly recommend getting this, even if the execution is tough. It's just a flat out amazing game.

******

*Begins Voguing*

AND, is it for the wii? Because if it's not.... >:

 

[Big-Cat]

*Begins Voguing*

AND, is it for the wii? Because if it's not.... >:

It's on 360 and PS3, and I know a PS3 is in the near future for you.

 

[Opelucid]

Does anybody?

He's a nuisance... he's like a fly that doesn't go away. Anyway about Fortune Street when does that come out or did it already come out?

 

[Pachinkosam]

Any big news?

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