[NEW!]Ganon's Castle - Ganon Boards Index (New poster? Read or DIE!)

[Bahamut777]

Welcome to the SSBB Ganondorf Character Boards! You now have stepped on our lair and will not make it back alive can start your career as a fellow Ganondorf mainer! Ganondorf is, without a doubt, one of the worst characters in the game, but he's so fun and it's so good to play him it's worthy the risks! You want to learn more about him? Well, you've come to the right place! Here you can find almost every important thread ever posted on these boards! Feel free to take a tour and stick around.​

The Courtyards - Basic Knowledge

• How to Murder Stuff: A Guide to the 'Dorf by Swoops - Basic guide to get used to gratuitous amounts of murdering and carnage. Be sure to read it!
  
  
• The Ganon Board's Question and Answer Thread by Ray Kalm - Got a question? Having trouble with some tech or combo? Couldn't find anything? Ask here! NOWHERE ELSE!

The Main Hall - General, Match Up and Stage Discussions

• The Slaughterhouse by Bahamut - 2010 Match Up summaries thread. Currently working on it.
  
  
• The Triforce of Knowledge by Ray Kalm - 2008/2009 Match Up summaries and discussion thread.
  
  
• Trail of Destruction by Bahamut - Ganon's stage discussion thread. Where Ganon performs better and what characters can he bury on there?
  
  
• Stage Match-Up Chart by Vermanubis - It has been done some time ago, but it's info's still certain... somewhat.
  
  
• Lust or Hatred by Bahamut - Ganondorf's doubles partners thread. Discuss about who are Ganon's best friends while pairing up and what can they do together.
  
  
• The Arbiter Grounds by Bahamut - Ganondorf's metagame improvement thread. Corrently dead. Should be working soon.
  
  
• Something stuck on your beard? Share a tip! by Z1gma - Ganondorf useful tips! Share yours. :D
  
  
• Racking up damage quickly with Ganon by Ray Kalm - Ganon's efficient ways to rack up % so he can get his load of murder.
  
  
• Ganon on the ledge by Clai - Ganon's ledge game discussion thread. Clai has done some good work on researching Ganon's options off the ledge.
  
  
• Official Chain Choking Discussion by Twilight Prince - TP discovered one of the pilars of out metagame. This thread is for discussions regarding it.
  
  
• How to 'Dorf that Move by Z1gma - Old "How to deal" thread. It's currently dead, but we've covered up some stuff already.
  
  
• Ganon and the Tilt-stick by Tero - Why and how should you take advantage from the tilt stick while using Ganon.
  
  
• BADAZZ is way too small a word by Z1gma - MOVE RENAMING THREAD! \o/

The War Chamber - Guides, Techniques and In-Deph Knowledge

• Ganondorf Techs, Skills, Frame Data and Hitboxes by PK-Ow! and Gleam - Almost EVERYTHING Ganon can do. Mandatory read and first resource option. Always.
  
  
• The Official Gerudo FollowUp Chart by F3Niix - Our bible.
  
  
• Ganon is my MYTHBUSTA by DAD - Ganon improvement thread. This thread covers how to deal with our classic, every day's problems.
  
  
• Sliq is AMAZING! by Sliq - Very good and detailed info about some Ganon techs that are very precious in our metagame and how to use them properly.
  
  
• Grab Release Information by Face - Probably all working and confirmed grab release options Ganon can do.
  
  
• Reverse Pivot Grabing by Gleam - Pivot Grabing's uses and why it's so important.
  
  
• Ganondorf Knockback Grow Rate Chart by Twilight Prince - This is a more technical stuff, but it's good to keep it on sight.
  
  
• The Tauntdorf by PK-Ow! - This is one of the most useful and important reading I've ever made regarding general off game stuff that can actually help you win. Recommended read.
  
  
• The New Reign by Thinkaman - If you're playing BBrawl, be sure to check this out!

The Trophy Room - Videos and Pics

• GanonTUBE by Bahamut - A very complete compilation on tech videos, combo videos, compilation videos and every other kind of Ganondorfish footage you can imagine. Also contains 2010 matches.
  
  
• Ganondorf Video Thread by Ray Kalm - Old video thread.
  
  
• Japanese Ganondorfs' Videos by rihuganon - Old video thread. Japanese Ganons are legit, but we haven't seen activity from them lately... =\
  
  
• The Official Manliest Ganon Thread by Vermanubis - WARNING! Several manly images. May cause testosterone overflow!
  
  
• The Ganon Board Camwhore Thread by Kosk - Old player picture thread. It's so good to remember our dear old pals. <3

The King's Den - Socials

• Ganon XAT! - Tag along!
  
  
• The Official Retreating Thunderstorm into Stutterstep Fsmash Thread by the boards itself - Read. By all means, read it.
  
  
• Ganonic Grimore by Vermanubis - Ganon's Social thread. Includes tier list, awards and ranking Discuss about everything or simply chat with fellow murderers. :D
  
  
• Ganon's Beard by Ray Kalm - Old social, tier list and ranking thread.
  
  
• ATTN First Generation Ganons by Red8 - we miss you guys! Come here and pay a visit sometime. ;-;
  
  
• Thy List Da Ganondorf Mains by Vysor - Ganondorf Friend Finder. Looking for matches or nearby Ganons? Look here.
  
  
• Ganon Friend Finder by DAD - Old finder thread.
  
  
• Ganondorf's Tournament Results Thread by Ray Kalm - Old Tournament info thread.
  
  
• Mind of a Murderer by Vermanubis - New interview thread!
  
  
• The Dark Lord's Interview Thread by DonKon - Old interview thread. Contains Kalm, Clai and DLA's interviews.

 

[Exalted]

Is there a KO-percentage thread anywhere on this board?

 

[Ganonsburg]

Is there a KO-percentage thread anywhere on this board?

Initial thought: "We're GANON!!!! All percents are KO-percents!"

Second thought: "....Okay, that would be a good idea"


Good stuff, Baha. I like the theme in this thread, and how neatly and consistently you set everything up.

 

[Divilenta]

This thread is Divilenta approved.

10chars

 

[Z1GMA]

Nicely put together, Baha.

Also... I want a castle surrounded by hot lava :|

 

[Divilenta]

For some reason the volcano reminds me of Mt. Doom. Which would make that eerie green light Minas Morgul.

Ganon knows how to pick a place I'll give him that.

 

[Bahamut777]

Is there a KO-percentage thread anywhere on this board?

The guide (How to murder stuff) covers that up. :]

Thank you guys! Should I ask to pin this up?

 

[Divilenta]

Well it's a guide to the forums....so yes.

 

[Exalted]

The guide (How to murder stuff) covers that up. :]

It's only tested on Mario.

I'm thinking on making a thread which covers when Ganon's moves kill every character in the game on tournament-legal stages.
Also figured I'd include when Gerudo follow-ups can guarantee your opponent's death.

Unless you guys disagree.

 

[PK-ow!]

Yay, people care about my guide!

Maybe I'll do the followup. With actually choosing one of the three taunts.



@Exalted: There are 4 variables to the question of KO percent::

The opponent character.
The distance to the stage boundary.
The move used.
The staling of the move.


That's a hell of a lot of **** to check. And no one remembers that much data anyway, but goes by landmarks and estimation.

Test for all characters if you want, and then do something uncommon which would be to deliberately stale the move.

Also, review the staling formula:

Each move enters a queue 9 slots in length. They are pushed into the 'back', and pop "fall" out the 'front'.
The "value" of the slots are some fractions around one tenth, and they decrease to the front of the queue. When calculating the staling factor, you add the values of the slots which are occupied by an instance of the move being used.
I don't recall the values, or what you do with the staling factor.

This means that there are literally a billion different ways a move could be staled.


BUT I subscribed to the thread:
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=210557

EDIT: Some of it simplifies, since staling by 0.1 + 0.02 is the same as 0.08 + 0.04; but, I mean, I think this only cuts the number by some linear factor. It'll be some portion of a billion, which is too ****ing many.

No, I lost concentration for a moment. But it's a power of 2. 2^9. It's still **** big. 512, I think?

 

[Exalted]

Well, I'll initially test when the moves kill when they are fresh from the center of the stage, and once all of that's done, I might get into stale moves.

Also, this will most likely be tested in Training Mode, where moves don't stale at all, if I remember correctly.

 

[Z1GMA]

Found this old thread for ya, Baha:
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=231959

 

[Bahamut777]

Will update it in some time. Yhanks for the addition, Z1g! :D

 

[DahremRuhar]

Oops. Meant to post here, not the old thread. Soooooo....., Hi, I'm a new Ganon main. I also enjoy hacking Brawl and playing Okami. Thats about it. Oh and I love your choice of picture for the top of the OP. Saw it on DA ages ago and thought it was pretty cool.

 

[Dumbfire]

Okami <3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IRx9gnY0Mp0&playnext=1&videos=TnK3HDM4Qpo
Screw the Ganon mains are tough thing I have a soft side too. xD

 

[Bahamut777]

One of my favourite games ever!

Welcome to the boards. :D

 

[Ray_Kalm]

Get this replaced with the other.