New AT?

[lucassassin]

I'm sorry if this is in the wrong place or had already been descovered. I was playing on castle seige earlier and when my opponent was on the ledge (and had ran out of invincibility frames) I pressed d-tilt. zss hit the opponent with her foot (owing to the distance from the ledge) and he flew downwards as if meteor smashed or spiked. Note that he wasn't stage spiked but seemed to fly straight downwards. unfortunatly i couldn't get a video but if somebody could try to do this then post one i would be most gratefull. remember to hit the the actual foot not the leg when your oponent is on the ledge.

 

[ThreeSided]

Why are you so sure it wasn't a stage spike?

 

[lucassassin]

because the opponent went strait down not diagonally downwards. if somebody could do this then post a video i would be very grateful as i can't

 

[Dumbfire]

Bad DI? Also, that would be more like Dtilt having a meteor mash property not an AT.

 

[lucassassin]

sorry, i just thought as i takes some precision with the spacing to hit with the foot it could be considered a technique

 

[Zero]

Castle Siege ledge is flat, so your opponent would go straight down after being stage spiked.

Sorry, but dtilt doesn't cause downwards knockback. :\

EDIT: It could have been the opponent God DIing, that is, doing some input that sends them straight down.

 

[Chronodiver Lokii]

Maybe its the stage?
Ive had Dsmash spike on PS1.
Ledges + attacks sometimes create some crazy shizz

 

[Deathfox30]

Actually, I think I saw either her D tilt or Zelda's spike in some combo video on Delfino. Maybe it does spike but we just don't hit people with the tip of her foot while in the air much.

 

[Chronodiver Lokii]

Actually, I think I saw either her D tilt or Zelda's spike in some combo video on Delfino. Maybe it does spike but we just don't hit people with the tip of her foot while in the air much.

If it does spike, it's VERY situational.

 

[Deathfox30]

Yeah, but it could probably still be a little useful. It's probably easier to land than a Luigi D tilt spike. It'll probably be kind of like Peach's/Pit's. I've actually spiked once with U tilt, I think it was just the first hit, though. It would be interesting if you could do it out of a D smash, since whenever they're in that position you should be able to D smash. I can't really test this myself, but if it's somewhat reasonable to land, like Peach's, I may try to do it when I get a D smash on the edge and I can't land a Flip kick, stage spike, or footstool (because they have good recovery).

 

[lucassassin]

ok i've managed to get video proof, sorry about the quality as the camera isn't working. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=98IAaJauf0s
what do you think?

 

[solecalibur]

This is at very low % also , interesting I thought this would be at high (was the Computer your friend? possibly DIing in a direction that made it work?)
How long did it take for you to "reenact it" and it was perfect spacing of your foot i assume?

 

[lucassassin]

no the computor is a computor in vs mode lv 9. i didn't reenact it, that is the origonal replay and yes it hits exactly with the foot it seems

 

[Chronodiver Lokii]

I'm taking this as just luck mixed in with some silly glitches.
Stuff like this happens every once in a while in this game.
If someone can reenact this with the same outcome MULTIPLE times, then maybe I'll think differently, but until then, just a situational glitch.

 

[Supermodel From Paris]

Here's what likely happened:

Opponent slightly below stage. Hit with the lowest part of the tipper hitbubble. Is sent upwards, but collides with the stage lip and flies downward instead.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_FLq2Kl4jH0 Watch at 3:00.

 

[lucassassin]

if the opponent is sent stright up from where it was after dropping down how can it collide with a lip? and anyway if you look at my video diddy is quite clearly on the ledge

 

[Supermodel From Paris]

Oh, I didn't see your video.

After watching it, I believe this was probably SDI into the lip which caused the spike. It makes sense because CPUs SDI everything.

 

[lucassassin]

pity, would've been nice to prove that noobs can contribute new things oh well lol. i really need to improve

 

[Deathfox30]

I can't see your video, it says it's one second and doesn't play...

 

[NickRiddle]

SDI into the lip, straight-down stage-spike.

 

[solecalibur]

pity, would've been nice to prove that noobs can contribute new things oh well lol. i really need to improve

ppl say they discover things all the time its perfectly normal

 

[lucassassin]

deathfox, yes it is one second it just shows the down tilt in question, it should play it's on youtube if not.
well fair enough no new AT

 

[Blakmane]

if you look carefully, you can see the opponent actually fly upwards, smack into the odd lip of castle siege, and then spike down and off the stage.

So it's a stage spike, sorry. Still, good to know for that particular portion of castle siege. Anyone know if it works on other stages?

*edit*

oops, beaten to it.

 

[Zero]

Didn't you guys see the big blue explosion stage spike bubble?

 

[Thibault]

Yeah... its clearly obvious that it stagespikes by the video dude The blue meteorlikeblowupthingy proves they di'd toward you and then got ***** by the lip... Thanks for informing people though :D as much as i abuse zss's dtilt as a shield poke i got a little excited about this D:

 

[Brawlin]

Yea that looks like its a stage spike.

 

[solecalibur]

Umm can you guys give an example on any other stage or is it just castle siege

 

[Zero]

It can happen on Lylat too. Look up Claw's first ZSS combo video.

 

[Chronodiver Lokii]

Probably on PS1 too.
PS1 ledges are just plain stupid.

 

[lucassassin]

fair enough then, stage spike it is. might come in handy though