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NEW and Updated Followup Chart**Updated 2/4/09**

F3NiiX

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At least at low percents it did. Olimar was sort of off the ground after the side b and seemed to have extra lag. But im not positive. Plus im going out of town til late friday, so I wont be able to test til I get back.
 

Swoops

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Oh my god...I think it actually is guaranteed. I was a bit skeptical, but now I'm pretty sure your findings are correct. I've been playing around with it and it seems that d-smash will connect with both hits on any get up option olimar uses o.O.

My Ganon headdress is off to you F3NiiX for finding this. It's 28% guaranteed damage so I'll definitely take it.
 

F3NiiX

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Oh my god...I think it actually is guaranteed. I was a bit skeptical, but now I'm pretty sure your findings are correct. I've been playing around with it and it seems that d-smash will connect with both hits on any get up option olimar uses o.O.

My Ganon headdress is off to you F3NiiX for finding this. It's 28% guaranteed damage so I'll definitely take it.
Does that make us friends? O.o
 

F3NiiX

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I'm thinkin of making a 3D chart for use with the 3D glasses from the superbowl. Thatd be awesome.
 

Tri4ceofPower

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Thank you!

I really appreciate the time and effort you spent making this. For ganon mains like myself it is invaluable information.

I'm surprised at how complicated gerudo followup's are.
 

Ray_Kalm

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So let me get this straight. We only have one "true" smash follow up, DSmash, and that to on a certain amount of characters teching a certain way? (and) FSmash, which isn't a true follow up, would still work (or be guaranteed) on a few characters by also teching, am I correct?

F3niix, you did a nice job and all, but wouldn't it be better for you to summarize your chart even further? Breaking the chart into, what's guaranteed and what's not 'only' and on whomever rolling/teching whichever way, would be cleaner and more viewable, wouldn't it?

DSmash for example: Guaranteed on Bowser, Donkey Kong, Wolf and Yoshi, if they roll away. Guaranteed on Kirby and Metaknight if they roll in. Then there's Olimar, the only character that our DSmash always works on, and even then, the second hit (of DSmash) could be avoided by air dodging.

Though, it's up to you.
 

F3NiiX

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I could, but honestly I dont feel like putting the time into it. If you like, I could give you the excel file.
 
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