I nnever said I'm losing to these characters I'm saying they require less skill and time to get good with them Ness is not a character who can just be picked up and beat on other high tier characters you get 2 skill-less players and give one Ness and the other Diddy, Rosa, Sheik or any other top 10 character Ness will most certainly lose! That's what makes a high tier char. And of course those things make a good Ness! If someone can't atleast do those things they aren't good and will lose! Unlike the other high tier chars. Where you don't need to understand the aspects of all the moves to be good! I don't usually lose I'd even bet I'd beat you so how about reading what I'm actually saying instead of looking for a reason to talk ****It is a very scrubby mentality to accuse other players of playing characters that you think are easy to play. When you lose, you lost because you're bad, and if you win, you win because you're good. That's the kind of mentality you should have. You shouldn't get salty because you think someone is playing an easy character.
And to be honest, Ness is not difficult to play in this game. What I would consider hard for Ness is getting dthrow fair combos consistently, maneuvering pk thunder very effectively, and landing pk fires on hard reads. Those three aspects do require skill, whether it be technical or mental. Apart from that however, Ness is a pretty straight forward character. I would say that ZSS, Sheik, Pika, and Sonic are all other high tier characters that are harder to play than Ness. I will admit Diddy is incredibly brain dead and the easiest character to play. But Smash as a game does not require a very high amount of tech skill. It's a relatively easy game to pick up, and mechanically it's very easy to learn characters. The skill in smash comes from learning how your options compare to your opponents' options, recognizing the counter to the option your opponent is going to do, and being able to execute it in a very short time frame.
And Ness is most assuredly high tier, for now anyways. It's difficult to say what will happen in three or four years, but in this day and age, Ness is a very very strong character.