Need help with " short hops"

[pumper]

I'm pretty new to smash bros in general. I saw in some videos that a lot of players approach with Fair (I think I'm saying it right). They take such short hops, its hard for the opponent to attack. I have the joystick controlling the jump function,. Is that wrong? If anybody could help me it would be a big improvement from noob to intermediate noob.

 

[Affinity]

Tap X or Y lightly to short hop.

 

[pumper]

I use the wiimote/nunchuck control scheme with tap jump on. So your saying I should put jump as a button?

 

[Affinity]

I use the wiimote/nunchuck control scheme with tap jump on. So your saying I should put jump as a button?

Try barely flicking your control stick up. You should hop if done correctly.

 

[samdaballer]

I use the wiimote/nunchuck control scheme with tap jump on. So your saying I should put jump as a button?

i would recommend the gamecube controller, everything is easier to do, as most people would agree

 

[Quez256]

I use the wiimote/nunchuck control scheme with tap jump on. So your saying I should put jump as a button?

That can really help a lot. Keep tap jump on however.

Personally, if it helps, the control config I use which works alright is: C=jump, Z=shield, D-pad=C-stick, 1=grab, everything else is the same. Picking up a Gamecube controller is the generally best setup, but it's not like you can't be good if you're using the Wiimote/Nunchuk.

 

[pumper]

Thanks for the replies, another thing would it be wise to turn on shake smash? I've tried it for a couple of games, but I cant get over playing a fighting game,and moving the controller like that. Would it help with anything or is it just stupid?

 

[Quez256]

Thanks for the replies, another thing would it be wise to turn on shake smash? I've tried it for a couple of games, but I cant get over playing a fighting game,and moving the controller like that. Would it help with anything or is it just stupid?

Nope, never seen anything shake smashing can do that the c-stick can't do better.

 

[l3lue2ain]

I hit the end of of the X button instead of pressing the whole thing makes short hopping a breeze.

 

[pumper]

What about the classic controller is it better than the gamecube controller?

 

[IDK]

mostly everyone on these boards use gamecube controllers.

 

[Killress]

i would recommend the gamecube controller, everything is easier to do, as most people would agree

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[Affinity]

What about the classic controller is it better than the gamecube controller?

No. Not in any way whatsoever.

 

[Los Bassoon]

What about the classic controller is it better than the gamecube controller?

The Game Cube Controller is MUCH better than the Classic Controller. Short-hopping is made easier on the game cube controller because you can tap the end of that curved X button on the game cube controller. I'd imagine that tapping the "end" of the classic controller's X button would be much harder. I'm not sure if there's a Z button on the classic controller or not; I think there's one in the back...? (I've never used one for anything before, so I'm not sure) Anyways, if the Z button is in the back, then having a shoulder Z button is a LOT more convenient for dash grabbing, IMO.

There's probably other reasons than these, but the Game Cube Controller makes your performace in-game much more efficient than any other controller.

 

[ynnek123]

yup, your best bet is to use a GC controllez. it will automatically make you better. If you still can't short hop then, I don't think smash is the game for you because they made it really easy. But yeah, I played with wiimote sideways once and Short hopping was nearly impossible with some chars o_O Don't know about wiimote/nunchuk though

 

[Tbagz]

before its to late, use the gamecube controller, ive only met ONE PLAYER whos a very good smasher with the wiimote nunchuck..

use the game cube because its easier to do everything, trust me.

start now before its to late. now some of my cousins that are younger wont give it up and.. its to late to get them any better then they are =/

 

[pumper]

I've learned to short hop really well with lightly "flicking" the nunchuk movement stick diagonally forward or backward . But I still feel that it is very cumbersome to do this.

Next purchase... Game Cube controller (Wave Bird)

 

[ckm]

No. Not in any way whatsoever.

there is one thing: R and L are very "deep" buttons on the gc controller. On the classic, they are very shallow... easy to compress and therefore (although its admittedly not a huge difference) arguably faster. Personally, I use the GC controller but I remove the springs from the R and L buttons. Its alot nicer.

 

[ShaolinAce]

X and Y buttons are your freinds.

 

[meta master]

Tap X or Y lightly to short hop.

or reallly fast. works for me

 

[MisterMoo]

Gc Controller Ftw!

there is one thing: R and L are very "deep" buttons on the gc controller. On the classic, they are very shallow... easy to compress and therefore (although its admittedly not a huge difference) arguably faster. Personally, I use the GC controller but I remove the springs from the R and L buttons. Its alot nicer.

Nintendo just lost a Joy Stick lawsuit, So all the GC, Wave Bird, and Classic Controllers are supposed to be taken off the shelves at stores pretty soon, and are supposed to stay off shelves until the 21million is payed..

Source: http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3168949

 

[Crizthakidd]

-_- how is short hopping hard they made it too easy in this game. hopping normally is hard for me cuz i played marth in melee for so long lol oh well. uve been helped

 

[Affinity]

Nintendo just lost a Joy Stick lawsuit, So all the GC, Wave Bird, and Classic Controllers are supposed to be taken off the shelves at stores pretty soon, and are supposed to stay off shelves until the 21million is payed..

Source: http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3168949

Everyone buy white GC controllers ASAP!!! - http://www.play-asia.com/paOS-13-71-23-49-en-70-2ola.html

 

[HolyChef]

before its to late, use the gamecube controller, ive only met ONE PLAYER whos a very good smasher with the wiimote nunchuck..

use the game cube because its easier to do everything, trust me.

start now before its to late. now some of my cousins that are younger wont give it up and.. its to late to get them any better then they are =/

ur gonna listen to a guy that uses a wavebird in tourney?

 

[pumper]

ur gonna listen to a guy that uses a wavebird in tourney?

Whats wrong with the wave bird?

 

[Terranrox]

i can only say i STRONGLY recommend GCN controller... and use x or y

 

[DemonicTrilogy]

O_O, where did you get that site Affinity... And aren't Game Cube controllers like 15 dollars at Best buy...

 

[samdaballer]

Whats wrong with the wave bird?

very little latency and doesn't feel as good as the official GCN

 

[miCKi]

IMMA TROLL imma troll IMMA TROLL imma troll...>_>...<_<...ok Im in the clear now use a gamecube I dont but ehh...I use classic Its more comfortable to me...

now...>_>...<_<...SONIC RULES! *miCKi runs off*