NECROMAFIA | Game Over! Shortest game in Dgames?

[Ramen King]

J, *** with me if you want to live. Vote Kary

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

Even if Zen didn't have a guilty on Kary I have my own evidence as to why I believe Kary is scum. You're making the guilty too much of an issue and refuse to look at Kary objectively.

 

[Ramen King]

Exactly what Soup said. You're only going against it because you think I'm lying when all of the top players but scum have scum reads on Kary just by his play.

 

[BarDulL]

Raziek has looked at Kary objectively lol, Kary's AtE was bat **** cray but it didn't feel scummy per se.

 

[BarDulL]

Ya'll need to read his posts more carefully.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

Then do me a favor and read my post on him.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

I didn't make that just because I thought it was fun, and I find myself a bit irritated it gets pushed aside because it has completely legitimate points. I want you all to get your head out of your *** and ask yourself, had Kary not have a guilty on him from Zen, how would you read him? You're all taking Kary's AtE as a sufficient tell when it's just pure AtE from either side of alignment.

*******.

 

[BarDulL]

I read your case, but it can be summed up as Kary fitting his own meta. Like, I would not be surprised by a Kary town flip at all and then Zen being like "lol gambit lololol" and you being like "aw fuuuu, welp." Kary is pretty scummy as either alignment because of his survivalist mindset.

 

[ranmaru]

But the reason I came in here was to

Unvote: J

Vote: Macman

Because I can't really read J when he's on the back foot, and I have a feeling that Macman lurks as scum. Readslist incoming pending a re-read.

@Bardull: What's your read on Kantrip?

@Macman: What's your read of Kantrip/Barull, and why?

@Nabe: What's your read on Soup?

Check this out. The reason why I think Kary unvoted J was only JUST to be off of J's wagon. I don't think his vote on Macman was really him trying to scumhunt on him, just to use Macman as a backburner vote for a behind the scenes reason. This doesn't matter, it might be useful to see how J is connected to Kary after his flip though.

Didn't really read this post. Something about trying to backpedal out of wanting Zen dead. Gross. You may as well just claim now, there's no going back at this point.

Underlined, Bardull says that he may as well claim. How does Kary respond?

No, it's fine, I quit.

just so i'm clear; i'm probably not going to post again.
you make me not want to post, that's what you get.

next time i get a private invite i'm going to ask who's on the playerlist

lynch J, or not, I don't care anymore.

I'd self vote but that's going too far.

Have fun without me.

Underlined, he says no, and that instead of claiming that he is quitting.
Bold, this is an empty statement. Bardull makes him not want to post, yet he comes back multiple times, and doesn't claim at all. Why is he delaying the claim? How is this helpful to town? The reason why he AtE'd, was to survive, once he was pushed to claim, he put on this show. Now ask yourselves, why do you think he was AtE'ing, just because the town was being stupid? Why didn't he AtE much before, when the wagon on him wasn't at L-1?

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

Ranmaru literally ninja'd me as to what I was going to say. Look at your last statement Bardull and tell me how he's being survivalist if he just states he's going to give up.

 

[BarDulL]

His breakdown posts are also somewhat semblant of TownKary as opposed to scumKary.

@SoupNinja - That was an attempt at AtE'ing to survive, hence why he continued to post.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

Then tell me this: Why is Kary not here right now producing a case on J like he promised or trying to contribute? He's not lynched yet, the only reason he gave up was because the fact he was about to be.

 

[BarDulL]

IDK, technically it's the weekend and I didn't see much activity from him on Saturday.

Hypothetically, lets say he was avoiding the thread or not looking at it. My theory is that Kary saw a glimmer of hope after his big "I quit" post when me and Kantrip backed off him, so he continued to post, but when people started ****ting on him again (you/zen/ran? I forget), he decided to commit to his AtE and "quit," probably because he felt his back and forths with you guys weren't helping him and that committing to his AtE would better help him survive (otherwise he would just replace out if he really was going to quit).

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

What I don't understand is how his AtE is such a deciding factor.

 

[ranmaru]

Bardull, why do you think Kary said "I quit" for the first time?

 

[Ramen King]

Raz #569 should say it all yo.

 

[BarDulL]

It feels mostly legitimate/genuine as opposed to scum AtE despite the massive contradictions in his play, i.e. Kary's lack of commitment to certain thought processes (ex: his change from wanting Zen lynched to wanting Zen "checked out.") There are probably other contradictions I'm not thinking of right now that have happened already.

Ran, he said that because he was trying to AtE.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

For Kary: Soup, Zen, KevMo, Ranmaru, Nabe, July (?)
Not For Kary: J, Bardull, Kantrip, Raziek, Kary
No Opinion: Ryker

 

[Ramen King]

It feels mostly legitimate/genuine as opposed to scum AtE despite the massive contradictions in his play, i.e. Kary's lack of commitment to certain thought processes (ex: his change from wanting Zen lynched to wanting Zen "checked out.") There are probably other contradictions I'm not thinking of right now that have happened already.

Ran, he said that because he was trying to AtE.

If you ****ing kidding me you ****tard it's so ****ing easy to starstarstarstaring fake AtE.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

Thinks J is scum: Soup, Zen, Bardull, Kantrip, Nabe, Kary, Ryker, July
Doesn't think J is scum: Ranmaru (?)
No Opinion: Raziek, KevMo

 

[Ramen King]

Raz thinks J i scum and Ran.

 

[BarDulL]

If you ****ing kidding me you ****tard it's so ****ing easy to starstarstarstaring fake AtE.

TBH I'm not completely against the Kary flip because it'll give information, however I still want Jbear.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

You're probably thinking, how the hell is that relevant? It's completely relevant. Look at J's and Kary's interactions. Look at how J is treating Kary. You whiny babies can get J afterwards we lynch Kary.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

I find it irony how the protown Zen claims guilty on Kary and everyone jumps on it and a couple of AtE spews and everyone gets scared, then jumps on J. J is literally getting more bandwagoned then a guy that has a guilty on him.

This game...

 

[BarDulL]

J is trying to set himself up to look good on a Kary town flip, we've been over this. I'd rather just see J's flip.

It's a question of whether Zen's guilty is legitimate or not. If I knew without a doubt that it was legit then I would go for it no questions asked.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

I really don't care about the guilty anymore. Kary's play has been complete ***.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

The only way I will suffice on J is if we were at deadline and people were refusing to vote Kary. That's it.

 

[BarDulL]

I really don't care about the guilty anymore. Kary's play has been complete ***.

 

[#HBC | J]

I ****ing hate this game. Like seriously EVERYONE has me as scum and this has never happened and it's a load of bull.

I mean people are trapping me in every way in terms of Kary where I must be his partner and if I am not his partner, I am not wanting to lynch him for town-cred.

No one gets that I"m not stalling, I am freaking busy with life and college and going through some things personally at the moment that puts mafia on the way backburner.

But now that I'm here complaining, I'm gonna make a post after I clean my room since I got nothing better to do.

 

[BarDulL]

I ****ing hate this game. Like seriously EVERYONE has me as scum and this has never happened and it's a load of bull.

I mean people are trapping me in every way in terms of Kary where I must be his partner and if I am not his partner, I am not wanting to lynch him for town-cred.

No one gets that I"m not stalling, I am freaking busy with life and college and going through some things personally at the moment that puts mafia on the way backburner.

But now that I'm here complaining, I'm gonna make a post after I clean my room since I got nothing better to do.

angry angry angry

everyone thinks i'm scum

i'm so busy

ok but fine i'll make a post since i'm not busy

less AtE more solid posting plz.

 

[#HBC | J]

Shove it Bardull, not in the mood for your smart***.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

Hey guys I got a better plan

Let's vote Kantrip

 

[#HBC | J]

I'm STILL waiting on your case on me as well, Bardull.

 

[BarDulL]

J, your attempts at trying to potentially swing the lynch to me when I've been pro-town is amusing.

Everything that my case would encompass regarding you has already been said either by myself or by Nabe/Ryker/Raziek/whoever else wants you dead. :|. Just look up all the points against you and respond to them accordingly, or go through with your BarDulLscum case since you seem to think I'm scum.

 

[ranmaru]

It feels mostly legitimate/genuine as opposed to scum AtE despite the massive contradictions in his play, i.e. Kary's lack of commitment to certain thought processes (ex: his change from wanting Zen lynched to wanting Zen "checked out.") There are probably other contradictions I'm not thinking of right now that have happened already.

Ran, he said that because he was trying to AtE.

Underlined, I don't see any reasoning that shows his AtE is genuine. You are also ignoring his massive contradictions with his play, only due to AtE.

Then in the last line, you say that he was trying to AtE purposely. Why is this?

 

[BarDulL]

Well, the thing is with his contradictions is that they're only seemingly contradictory, really it's just Kary being non-committal and switching things up in order to survive, but Kary did this in PM64 as Town. That's why I'm more or less dismissing those things on the premise of ingenuity seen in Kary's AtE.

It just felt...genuine in the first post. I'll quote it in a sec.

 

[BarDulL]

No, **** it.

I told myself I wasn't going to worry about this game, because, bottom line, if I get lynched D1 by a bunch of ****ing ******* that won't even argue you with you badly let alone actually know how to string together a logical train of thought, then it's not on my head. But **** it.

I really want to just write this game off right now, because it has been a **** experience for me top to bottom. I don't know why ever even bothered trying not to flip out because it has just made it worse. I came into this game really
really hoping
that this would finally be the game where I get along with other players and don't have to constantly bang my head against the wall because they're being ****ing ******* again.
No, this isn't just differences in playstyle, i'm not going to be polite about it. You guys can go and suck a ****, because, bottom line, you can't put an argument together for two ****s. That's fine and all, because despite your utter lack of any sort of skills in this department, everyone will read you as town and so you'll be at worst a distraction.

IF YOU ACTUALLY THINK THERE IS A DAYCOP IN THIS GAME
YOU CAN DIE IN A FIRE

I CAN CONFIRM
YES, CONFIRM
THAT THERE ISN'T

Now, given this, there is one good reason for Zen to insist that he has a daycop. It's because he's super-confident that I'm scum.

WHAT THE **** DO YOU WANT ME TO DO IN THE FACE OF THAT?

I tried ****ing not blowing up for the sake of it, because, seriously, what good does postponing my lynch for a couple days do anyways? It's just another gogdamn game where everyone is constantly suspicious of Kary not least because he can actually string a thought process together and actually reads people's posts.

Zen you're not a ****ing daycop and every time you say you are it makes me want to wring your ****ing neck; I don't give two ****s whether you're scum or not- in reality your play is somewhat better if you are scum, because apparently people are following you down this piss poor path that you have chosen.

In a perfect world i'd be scum right now so I could ****ing turn this on your head and hang you up by the utterly bull**** things you're trying to lynch me on. But no, you probably are town. You probably are just another ****ing ****** town. Remember ERB where you mislynched your way into the ground, and thought myself/J was scum because of our UTTERLY CONSISTENT set of scumpicks?

Because I don't mind that you're flighty and confident and you do your own thing. What does my ****ing head in is that you don't ****ing listen. You don't ****ing pay attention to anything most people have to say, and in particular, anything I have to say, ever. I don't even care that you're incapable of reading me down to a tee, but that you can't ****ing pay attention to what's blindingly obvious makes me want to drive nails into your face with extreme prejudice, then maybe pour in some basic critical thinking and conversation skills.

Dear Bardull

I have come to the conclusion that you're a ****head in mafia games because you're a ****head in real life.

I don't think I ever want to have a conversation with you again

Goodbye


Right, who else is on my waggon? I don't really care. Bottom line, what do you get from my lynch? Not a ****ing lot. With ****ing hyper Ran/Soup/Zen flying around, this game will no doubt descend into even more of a ****storm than it already is, with everyone doing their own ****ing thing and not using their ****ing head. Whoever is scum will just lurk or fencesit as you dig yourselves an early grave.

To the few people in this game who I actually like/respect, i'm sorry i'm sorry i'm playing like **** and throwing all these curse words around. But the lunatics have got out of the asylum and there's not a lot I can ****ing do. My gut says to just shoot them in the head but they're people after all.


Here's the short 1-2

#1 why am I scum? Because I sure as **** haven't been 'backpedalling' or 'imitating Ran' or 'joking things off' as people claim.

#2 what have I been doing this game? Trying to ignore the torrent of utter bull**** being sprayed in my direction, and actually generate some kind of content. Of course, I have more or less failed spectacularly, because every time I come into the thread I have someone else being a ****** in my direction, and I can't bear to look at the thread anymore because it's a ****storm I don't want any part of.

I wish Ryker/July/someone with their head screwed on would come back so I could actually talk things.

AND I AM SICK OF BEING ****ING IGNORED

ZEN; THE FIRST ****ING THING I asked in this game, 'why exactly am i not being nonchalant' you INSTANTLY turned round and asked at me, because you have ZERO interest in actually playing ball with town, and are ONLY interested in doing your own ****ing thing.
That it has come down to this just makes me ****ing sick, and I know you won't ****ing learn from this, but I really hope you ****ing do. You're a ****ing liability, and I looked up your Catherine playstyle. I thought Ryker did a really good job of turning you upside down like mario flipping a koopa. It's what you deserve every game, because i'd always rather have you with your legs waving in the air so that you don't cause any ****ing trouble.

But answer me this, just this.

How many times have you actually been right when you've been this confident?
Or, when are you going to ****ing learn?

I don't mind if you throw this game, I really don't. Beyond this eff off post, I don't think there's anything I can really do. I suppose I could find where you live, travel there, and knock some ****ing sense into you. But at least in making this, perhaps I can communicate some measure of my utter ****ing frustration at how ****ing stupid you're being.

So yeah, this probably is my last post. Why would I come back to a game like this?

Oh, and yeah, obviously replacing out is a good idea. Except for the poor ****ing sap that has to pick up my slot. Uh, no. I'll quite happily prod dodge or otherwise not do anything this game, and not have to burden anyone else with being in this game. Congratulations on misreading me on this, as well.

J > Nabe > ? for a lynch order, but probably NL today.

don't **** this up.

"****storm" and "flip you upside down like mario jumping on a koopa" are the funniest terms/lines ever.

Actually, his last paragraphs are pretty whack. :/.

I'll comment more on this later, brb lunch.

 

[ranmaru]

Well, the thing is with his contradictions is that they're only seemingly contradictory, really it's just Kary being non-committal and switching things up in order to survive, but Kary did this in PM64 as Town. That's why I'm more or less dismissing those things on the premise of ingenuity seen in Kary's AtE.

It just felt...genuine in the first post. I'll quote it in a sec.

Underlined, you say because Kary did this once as town, that you are willing to take it as him being town here as well. What makes you believe he is also town here, and not scum trying to abuse that? I don't see how your recent posts show how you believe his post to be genuine other than 'he did it as town once'.

I also wanted your opinion of this post:

Didn't really read this post. Something about trying to backpedal out of wanting Zen dead. Gross. You may as well just claim now, there's no going back at this point.

No, it's fine, I quit.

just so i'm clear; i'm probably not going to post again.
you make me not want to post, that's what you get.

next time i get a private invite i'm going to ask who's on the playerlist

lynch J, or not, I don't care anymore.

I'd self vote but that's going too far.

Have fun without me.

 

[BarDulL]

It's not just "once." It's Kary's town meta, lol. Although after rereading the big AtE post, the bottom of the post bothers me and I need to think on it more.

I already answered your question regarding the "no, it's fine, I quit" line.

 

[ranmaru]

It's not just "once." It's Kary's town meta, lol. Although after rereading the big AtE post, the bottom of the post bothers me and I need to think on it more.

I already answered your question regarding the "no, it's fine, I quit" line.

Yet you only mentioned PM64. I'm going through it now to see what you mean.
Underlined, deadline is near. Chop chop, what about it bothers you? What is your conclusion.

I also don't see your answer with reference to that. I just see you talking about the quote you brought up. Please be more clear.