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My Marth

Hydde

Hydde

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Sheik:
The sheik needed to go more for the grabss and pressure a little more with the needles.
Spam much less the dash attack, you was getting grabed a lot. The combo dash-Wdback-dash-downsmash is usefull but easily you could have gone for grabs instead, as the marth was shielding in almost all of your attempts!.



Lol i was suggesting the sheik instead

Marth, you pretty much read the sheik´s mindgame. Just take in account what i mentioned earlier.

Good move there Marth(1:39). Ill try to implement it (instead of the Back air, i think a sffled fsmash would have doomed her... but nice move anyways!).
 
ArcNatural

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Hydde said:
Good move there Marth(1:39). Ill try to implement it (instead of the Back air, i think a sffled fsmash would have doomed her... but nice move anyways!).
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He didn't l-cancel the fair to bair, it was edge-canceled so good luck trying to implement that consistenly :p.

My only advice is you probably could have ***** that Sheik worse if you just CC'd. Way too much dash attack from that Sheik imo. Normally against better Sheik's you can't be as aggressive and need to create just pressure. In this case being aggressive was all the pressure you needed. That Sheik crumpled. Nice job!

Edit: Unquit and come to Pound 3
 
Hydde

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yeah but thats because he was going with the momentum.

He could have stayed on the platform instead of tryin to continue combo, sffl and then Fsmashed. I tried it minutes ago. And yeah, consistently would not be ideal, but is a nice add to have.
 
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FrostByte

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I think there were a lot of grab opportunities when you used did something else or because you haven't perfected your movement style. Casper doesn't seem to have a CCish sheik, so you're in luck there.

Less shine, moar Fsmash etc.


Unquit and come to Epita Smash Arena.
 
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mattdude

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wow. wish i were that good :( i have most of those techniques under my fingers, but it's hard to string them together effectively. great job at 1:39! good stuff *thumbsup*
 
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Simply Rice

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It's hard to critique your Marth based on this video alone. As you well know Sheik is Marth's hardest match up and this Sheik simply was not using the text book anti-Marth moves. But based on technical skill your Marth is top notch. I'd like to see more of him on youtube.
 
flaco

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ditto brookman all i could say is try to work in l cancel i seen some l cancel you missed good job overall 9 out of 10 good job
 
worldjem7

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Unfortunately, your actual Marth play did not mave much to do with this win. That sheik was just plain bad and you read him like a 2 word book plain and simple (and yes I mean "word" not "page" lol).

You were fast
You read him well
He was bad (using wrong moves and DI'ing badly into your combo)

These are why you won.

It was pretty much **** on your end against him.

I can't really judge your Marth properly from this.

You DID however: Move well, do a nice dolphin slash kill, and be aggressive at the right times to get the kill.

If any advice I could give it would be to try and FF off the ledge to make a quicker edgehog and more Fair as an approach.

P.S. No hate man. "That" thread is old news to me and I apologize for my actions. btw you're on the GTA up and coming list for our PR lol (inside joke because someone hasn't let it go) http://smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=111413
 
flaco

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it actually did but all you have to do to sheik is to keep it in the air marth has the upper hand agaunst sheik in the air
 
Virgilijus

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Guys, it's pretty bad form to just say "that opponent sucked" when some one asks for advice.

Shiz, one of the things I would say to work on is some of the ledge game: you had one great ledge hop d-air for the kill, but other times you should have taken a stock off but didn't. At (:29), I would have gone for a spaced n-air ledge hop to throw Sheik back off the stage (since she was at moderate/high percentage). That or a quick ledge hop-> waveland to fsmash to get her off (instead of an u-air to try and juggle her at high %'s). Also, at (1:30), you kind of hesitated in getting down on the edge when Sheik was under the stage and then got down too late which resulted in the loss of a stock.

Also, some shffld nairs were a little poorly spaced and could have been shieldgrabbed by a more observant Sheik.

Still, you have a very good Marth :)
 
Tom

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good **** DaShizWiz.

Casper didn't look like he sucked at all. He had a solid tech game, and he avoided getting gimped underneath Battlefield. Shizwiz is still one of the best players in the country, so any of us wouldn't look to hot against him. =/
 
flaco

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lol well what do we have here a trouble maker or a novice anyways if you tell me to do combos in the air at sheik is a bad advice then iam out of you reach brother
 
SpeedAcE

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1:39 = Holy

Anywho, I've no doubt that Marth would destroy my Falco. The only problem I saw with your Marth was spacing. You could have tipped that Sheik so many times but opted for movement instead.
 
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AznLanceLord

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That Marth wavedashed more than anyone I've ever seen. Looked intimidating to me.

You are good enough already.
 
Shai Hulud

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You missed an easy dair at 1:38ish. You don't always have to DJ to ken combo but I'm sure you know that.

I'm not sure moonwalking with Marth is useful at all...but it sure looks neat.

Pivot fsmashes are fun too but hardly anyone does them because it's hard or something.
 
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Ace83

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Solid marth. That was a fun one to watch haha. you can really tell that after mastering falco, marths technical demands are a walk in the park for you.
 
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FrostByte

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flaco said:
lol well what do we have here a trouble maker or a novice anyways if you tell me to do combos in the air at sheik is a bad advice then iam out of you reach brother
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That advice is so basic that it should be second nature to a Marth player. It's like saying "hit your opponent and you will win." As for my skill level, I don't think I need to justify myself.
 
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