My Luigi! 1 new vid 12/04

[Kanzaki]

Hi, Mario main here, I used to mess around with Luigi, but I'm probably going to start using him in tournament play in the near future... Anywho, here's my Luigi in friendlies, how is it..?

Note - These are all Wifi... wifi fails, but gives an idea ^^

10/11
vs. Falco
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PGVATJpqs0Q
vs. Pikachu
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KhUlfy5fPh0

10/18
Matador (Mario) |Final Destination
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_3vAYG-gLhk
Matador (Mario) |Battle Field
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MeRyE7jG96g

12/04 *new
Bigfoot (Snake) |Battlefield
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NKdTCGKqCbg

I have a few more against Mario's.. cause I hate Mario dittos... but that's all I have uploaded for now.

 

[MasterToshima]

Not bad. You have nice combos with tilts finishers. I suposse u have C-stick on tilts? I suggest removing that. Also that was one god awful Falco, just sucs. Well, you missed quite a lot chances of Up-B, but thtz ok for someone who's used on Mario it was hard 2 feel and get used to Luigi's Up Bs myself. On 1.34 u did a huge mystake. FIRST: u shouldnt wait so long untill u recover with Up B. Second u should hold that missile a bit longer and THIRD but most inportant u should have done the rising tornado. IT's really useful, here's how to do it in air: Jump and down b(while repidetly pressing B) before u haven't lsot ur momentum.

Goodl uck with Luigi and welcome to Luigi boards!

 

[Kanzaki]

My control's set on default, so c-stick = smash, I'm just used to tilting a lot, carried over from melee ^^


I keep forgetting to up-b yea, but also due to the delay on wifi, it's just.. ew.. I can do it more consistently offline. At the 1.34 part.. that was my fault, I mistimed it.. again, wifi! :D The delay caused me up up-b late, but after it was over, I knew I should of held the missile a bit longer..

No worries, I know how to do the rising tornado, it was just that I already used my jump, therefore I couldn't use the momentum.. I think I could mash it as fast as I can to raise..? Like how it was in melee, but didn't want to take a risk during the middle of a match :D

 

[elheber]

I can say one thing for sure, and I bet the rest of us will agree: Your Luigi is a lot like Mario. A skilled Mario, but a Mario nonetheless. For example, you aren't very comfortable with the Cyclone and Green Missile. You Fast-Fall nAirs instead of doing multiple Aerials in a single Short Hop. And you play a strong ground game instead of a strong aerial game.

I must say, you're great with timing Spot Dodges and following them up with dSmashes. It's something that's very effective with both brothers. Since both of the opponents played pretty offensively, I didn't get to see your approach. Luigi's not as good a Fireball spammer as Mario, so playing defensively won't always be an option.

But yeah, you're pretty sweet with Luigi. If you want to get better, I suggest using the rest of Luigi's KO moves as much as possible (most of your kills were dSmash). Hyphen Smashes, fSmashes, nAirs, and recovery gimping. Chasing them off stage to gimp their recoveries is also important, and Luigi shines over his brother on this one. Get comfortable with the Rising Cyclone and sweetspotting Green Missiles. Short hop a lot more too.

 

[hippiedude92]

Lol. Mario boards taking luigi to tourneys naos? First Boss, now Kanzaki? :O Oh and decent luigi, just a few tweaks and your golden.

 

[WIGI]

uhm not bad, you didn't cyclone recovery and you died, your very predictable off stage and you should short hop double areiles alot more. down b and ftilt use was good. but the falco wasn't veyr good in general. a good falco would be pissing you off with lazorz.

you getting tehre.

 

[ALiAsVee]

Elheber's right, you play very mario-y. I like the use of ftilts.

 

[hippiedude92]

Yar, I like the many uses of tilts, just a few tweaks, like don't spotdodge and tornado their face, its pretty easy to shield grab. Unlike Mario, Luigi isnt the complete type to be nimble when hes a floaty and etc.

 

[CR4SH]

I gotta say I liked it. Measuredly agressive.

A couple things I can add are 1) learn to exchange your dsmash for usmash when they're behind you. They're perfectly complimentary if you use them that way. 2) mix up your jab game. Luigi has much better options out of a jab than 2 more jabs. Jab-grab, jab-smash, jab-dtilt, jab-shoryuken, hell, even jab-ftilt does more damage than jabjabjab.

 

[Kanzaki]

I normally do jab -> downsmash like I do with Mario, wifi delay messes up my timing ^^


I press a to jab, followed by c.stick down for the downsmash.. but thats where the delay messes me up =/

 

[CR4SH]

I normally do jab -> downsmash like I do with Mario, wifi delay messes up my timing ^^


I press a to jab, followed by c.stick down for the downsmash.. but thats where the delay messes me up =/

makes sense.

My favorite is jab-grab. Best case senario you can jab, grab, pummel, dthrow, uair, then whatever else you can get in. You can get 25+% out of it in a good case, or at least 12 if everything goes against you. At low percents jab dthrow, fair, fair fireball can net you 35% and it's fairly common to pull off the whole thing. As long as they don't airdodge immediately. One time I even was able to replace the fireball to another jab-grab-throw-uair. It was like 0-60 in ten seconds, and they just about cried =D.

 

[MasterToshima]

but the falco wasn't veyr good in general. a good falco would be p
you getting tehre.

That was god awful falco, srsly, he just sucked.

Ofc there wass wifi delay but that doesnt explain it!

 

[Pompi]

you guys realize this is good? this is exactly the kind of ppl that evolve luigis metagame , i mean we all noticed somethign was different , why not try mixing things up? luigi is about practice jsut keep practicing until you get that luigi feeling

 

[Kanzaki]

Here's 2 videos earlier on Wifi against another Mario Main:

Kanzaki (Luigi) vs. Matador (Mario) |Final Destination
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_3vAYG-gLhk

Kanzaki (Luigi) vs. Matador (Mario) |Battle Field
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MeRyE7jG96g

 

[nash123]

Use jab-grab more, don't use smashes as much even though your opponents didn't punish you but still don't.Buffer your arieals as it makes you move a ton faster and in general be in the air alot more.Nice use of f-tilt though.

 

[Veggi]

1:47-1:49 on the Pikachu video.... only Luigi....

 

[Delvro]

When you get sent flying towards the top, you want to hit c-stick down rather than airdodge. It helps you survive longer.

There was a big thread about it in the tactical discussion... if I can find it...

 

[elheber]

When you get sent flying upwards, you're actually better off doing an fAir than a dAir. The faster the Aerial finishes, the more it can save you. fAir is Luigi's fastest Aerial.

Lot's of times I accidently do bAir.

 

[LuigiKing]

Aaaaah you play just like me, except you don't spam random jabs all over the place. Good work, I like the use of Ftilt, its one of my favorite moves actually. If you get some non wifi vids recorded get them into the grime hall.

 

[Kanzaki]

I played using Brawl+ today! All my matches I used Mario, but I wanted to try out Luigi, here's my only one ><

It was like my 3rd match, so I was still getting used to it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=li86CVtekr8

 

[chic]

you do realize that youre supposed to hit each other right? :D:D

 

[WIGI]

if lugi can pretty much wavedash across all of fd.. why are you rolling. why arent you fthrowing-wavegrab-ffthrow-wavegrab ect.

 

[jbandrew]

from what I see ur Luigi plays alot like Mario... that's a habit ur gna have to get unused to wen u play as Luigi... don't play like mario bcuz their strengths are different.

But, my suggestion is to find UR way of Luigi and get comfortable with it, that way u can develop ur own style and such ^_^ besides odd styles throw people off

 

[WIGI]

its true.

if people know who i am, all i have to do is taunt NEAR the edge and they run away. ive even had people recovering, im standing on the edge, and i dtaunt. they di away from the edge and then die. i had a meta knight gliding towards the edge once, and i dtaunt, and he dove down under the stage, the tried to come up the otehr side. *FAIL*

 

[Kanzaki]

I added 1 new video.. I have a few more that I'll probably upload later, all mostly against Snakes cause my Mario fails against Snakes :[