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My Falco Vidz Need Advice!!! Come In Here! *update!!!!*

brawlpro

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you are kinda predictable By the 1st stock taken I would have just sheild grabbed everything you did......you grabbed
BTW thats good....but....WHERE ARE THE SHINE COMBOS??? GO train now *slap*
 
Battousai780

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brawlpro said:
I did some shine combos on fox, but i don't think that match got recorded >_>

I need to shl more like mathos so i don't get shield grabbed!

EDIT: zelda is a good character...and check back later for more vidz!
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You need to pillar. And uh yeah, work on those shl. Shot the wrong way a few times.
 
Miharu

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brawlpro said:
I did some shine combos on fox, but i don't think that match got recorded >_>

I need to shl more like mathos so i don't get shield grabbed!

EDIT: zelda is a good character...and check back later for more vidz!
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SHL in no way, shape, or form prevents shield grabbing. Proper fastfalling and l-cancelling does, though. Falco has moves other than shine, dair, and laser. Use them. You just need to work on basics (fastfalling, waveshining, etc.) at the moment, don't worry about the more advanced stuff until later.
 
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I already watched ur falco yesterday. Your falco is ok you just need more combos you know the basic strategys of shl...
 
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Did some1 just say he needs to pillar? BULL****!!!!!!!!!!! It has been proven that even a frame perfect pillar has enough time to get shield grabbed in. You would have to dobule-shine pillar to prevent shield grabbing. Only dashizwiz and silent wolf can prolly pull that off. Second, not all falco's use shine. I agree with the "somebody likes mathos" comment though XD. Maybe instead of running away then starting to laser, you should laser while going away. It gets more lasers out, and is faster than normal running away. The funny thing is, that even withe verything that every1 has pointed out, he still somehow 2-stocked the sheik. About the shine combos, it is not necessary to shine combo, but against sheik it is very useful. I do with HydroKirby very much though. Then again, thats y u main fox not falco, isnt it? XD Your fox is better than your falco, just maybe not in certain match-ups. Thats all for now.

Peace
 
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thats why you pillar on the side of their shield on their backs so you can't be shield grabbed.

Good vid, I think. You don't need to shl more, I think. f-smash is always good, and you shouldn't dash-dance over them when they are on the ground. But your shines were fine.
 
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Druggedfox said:
Did some1 just say he needs to pillar? BULL****!!!!!!!!!!! It has been proven that even a frame perfect pillar has enough time to get shield grabbed in. You would have to dobule-shine pillar to prevent shield grabbing. Only dashizwiz and silent wolf can prolly pull that off. Second, not all falco's use shine. I agree with the "somebody likes mathos" comment though XD. Maybe instead of running away then starting to laser, you should laser while going away. It gets more lasers out, and is faster than normal running away. The funny thing is, that even withe verything that every1 has pointed out, he still somehow 2-stocked the sheik. About the shine combos, it is not necessary to shine combo, but against sheik it is very useful. I do with HydroKirby very much though. Then again, thats y u main fox not falco, isnt it? XD Your fox is better than your falco, just maybe not in certain match-ups. Thats all for now.

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Pillar is good, I watched PC vs. drephen yesterday and I didn't see his so proclaimed timing to grab out of falco's pillar, pc is too good he mixes his pillars with jabs and waveshines. You shouldn't abuse pillar tho, I can double shine pillar too like 4 times in a row without missing but I still don't use it on real matches or at least I didn't have the chance to use it but still it's possible too grab out of dspillar if you don't do it enough fast. Just work on combos brawl pro, that's all
 
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Druggedfox said:
Did some1 just say he needs to pillar? BULL****!!!!!!!!!!! It has been proven that even a frame perfect pillar has enough time to get shield grabbed in. You would have to dobule-shine pillar to prevent shield grabbing. Only dashizwiz and silent wolf can prolly pull that off. Second, not all falco's use shine. I agree with the "somebody likes mathos" comment though XD. Maybe instead of running away then starting to laser, you should laser while going away. It gets more lasers out, and is faster than normal running away. The funny thing is, that even withe verything that every1 has pointed out, he still somehow 2-stocked the sheik. About the shine combos, it is not necessary to shine combo, but against sheik it is very useful. I do with HydroKirby very much though. Then again, thats y u main fox not falco, isnt it? XD Your fox is better than your falco, just maybe not in certain match-ups. Thats all for now.

Peace
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Plenty of people can double-shine pillar; it's just not that practical. And a Falco that doesn't use shine is just handicapping himself.
 
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you can def grab a pillar but that doesnt mean a pillar is not worth trying, because if you land 1 dair or shine from the pillar you can combo a stock off of it.
 
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Druggedfox said:
Did some1 just say he needs to pillar? BULL****!!!!!!!!!!! It has been proven that even a frame perfect pillar has enough time to get shield grabbed in.
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It has also been proven that in the heat of battle a Pillar can be the best way to go....(except on Drephen and M2K and ICs)

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You would have to dobule-shine pillar to prevent shield grabbing. Only dashizwiz and silent wolf can prolly pull that off.
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I can double Shine Pillar.....except my timing is a lil off I always mess it up in the heat of battle but casually.....Im about 50% in real fights and 80% casually....
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Second, not all falco's use shine.
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And those Falco's have tougher matches
 
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LIES they win matches!!!!!!!!!!! and look cool!!!! and mixed with LAser spamming makes you incredibly cheap like sagat from street fighter
 
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From the looks of it either that Sheik was horrible, having an off day or sandbagging a lot, because its obvious that he missed a bunch of simple, small things like wavelands and that fact that often he wouldn't care about your lasers and would just try to walk through them.

Also, your recovery was really obvious, side-b back on the ledge far too often, the sheik caught on too but never punished, like 3/4 through the match the sheik missed a few attempts to f-air you out of your recovery. A better player would of punished you a lot more.

But, good lasers.
 
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Regardless if he has a bad match-up you can obviously tell that he just wasn't having a good day or didn't care... If it was a serious tourney from the looks of it I think he would of won that match 9 out 10 times at least.

You said it yourself he beat your Fox which is your main and hopefully better character...
 
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brawlpro said:
soma's sheik is just bad vs falco's, i counter picked falco after he beat my fox, so yep!

thnx for the compliment ^_^
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If you're having trouble against sheik think of her as if she was marth, sheik is another character that was made for upthrow>uair so just drillshine her, grab and upthrow>uair...

Drillshine>upsmash works but you have to walk a little for it to connect or make a very long waveshine(harder). Remember to laser a lot (if you need to)and be gay. Be ready to DI the fair...(I hate that thing) Smash DI it UP and on the opposite direction you are going, DI her Upsmash Left or Right (preferably not away from the stage) Well my sheik experience is small and personally I dislike the match up a lot since sheik is harder to combo(marth is way easier and funny) and she can **** you badly...(tech chase sux >_<)

BTW I played a sheik today and I won 3-1 ^^
 
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Yeh, IMO that was a bad Sheik.
You did good actually BPro. Your shines were ok, you were quick, and SPAM THOSE LASERS!
You're kind of at my level, so all I can say is WE need to combo more =P .
 
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BP thinks Shine Combos are 4 scrubs....IDC WHAT Mathos says....I like the dude but cheap is good which is why so many peaches win Cheap=Peach
 
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Practice your SHL, try to shoot lower. Try to incorporate shine more, you didn't use it very much and well.
 
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2nd vid Work on your technical skill so you can speed up that Dair>>Shine
 
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He can he just screws up because his fingers aren't fully adapted to a fast playing style yet
 
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brawlpro said:
ok, i just got back from my friends house (edge)

and practiced shine combos, this one on fox = ****, i did it today

dair > shine > shine > dair > shine > uair then i shl...i'm gettin better at shine combos heh

i train almost everyday...
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Try dair>waveshine>dair>waveshine>uptilt>uair>nair>f-smash on fox or falco
 
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