Salaad
Smash Ace
Waveshine combo's FTW!! 'cept I hate it when you go the wrong way.. >.<
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My Falco Vidz Need Advice!!! Come In Here! *update!!!!*
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mathos
Smash Champion
At your request good sir,
Against Soma:
You need to grab more when he's on the outside of the stage it'll lead to better edgeguarding opportunities. Its not bad if you grab on the inside of the stage but really you're only option against sheik is an uthrow or a dthrow. And if you dthrow I typically try and follow it with a dtilt if I can catch them off guard or a dsmash because it covers both sides of me when they don't tech. If they do tech you can always follow up with a SHL to grab again. Dthrow to dance dashing really doesn't give you an advantage for anything great especially when you get hit
Don't try and shine through the neutral A's its not worth it
And overall just work on more technical things. You have decent technical skill but at times things are quite sloppy especially during your up-down combos.
Against GenoBlast:
Get out from under him. Being under Fox like that at the beginning of the match doesn't help you at all. Falco should always be advancing or retreating, not waiting to get his as handed to him. The only time I see Falco benefiting standing there is if you know that your opponent will fall right into an utilt.
Man you had Geno in a good utilt but you didn't follow it with another one. Most Falco and Fox players always throw out 2 utilts. They're fast and have high priority, and the DI is strange on them. It can lead to bigger things.
That illusion to the middle of the stage was atrocious, just really no need to do it. You had the edge or you could have come down with an aerial. Some of the shortenings were nice but the last one you could have just grabbed the edge.
If you're waiting near the edge from his upb like on his 3rd life you might as well put in a well times forward or down smash, assuming he's close enough. I didn't think you were going to grab the edge in time.
Again keep working on your technique a saw a few reverse SHL's that aren't reverse in the middle of the air, in other words you're stopping your momentum.
And you seem to be in a habit just like me where we always tech straight up from most techable hits. Its real easy to read.
Hope it helps some
-The Mighty Mathos
Against Soma:
You need to grab more when he's on the outside of the stage it'll lead to better edgeguarding opportunities. Its not bad if you grab on the inside of the stage but really you're only option against sheik is an uthrow or a dthrow. And if you dthrow I typically try and follow it with a dtilt if I can catch them off guard or a dsmash because it covers both sides of me when they don't tech. If they do tech you can always follow up with a SHL to grab again. Dthrow to dance dashing really doesn't give you an advantage for anything great especially when you get hit
Don't try and shine through the neutral A's its not worth it
And overall just work on more technical things. You have decent technical skill but at times things are quite sloppy especially during your up-down combos.
Against GenoBlast:
Get out from under him. Being under Fox like that at the beginning of the match doesn't help you at all. Falco should always be advancing or retreating, not waiting to get his as handed to him. The only time I see Falco benefiting standing there is if you know that your opponent will fall right into an utilt.
Man you had Geno in a good utilt but you didn't follow it with another one. Most Falco and Fox players always throw out 2 utilts. They're fast and have high priority, and the DI is strange on them. It can lead to bigger things.
That illusion to the middle of the stage was atrocious, just really no need to do it. You had the edge or you could have come down with an aerial. Some of the shortenings were nice but the last one you could have just grabbed the edge.
If you're waiting near the edge from his upb like on his 3rd life you might as well put in a well times forward or down smash, assuming he's close enough. I didn't think you were going to grab the edge in time.
Again keep working on your technique a saw a few reverse SHL's that aren't reverse in the middle of the air, in other words you're stopping your momentum.
And you seem to be in a habit just like me where we always tech straight up from most techable hits. Its real easy to read.
Hope it helps some
-The Mighty Mathos
brawlpro
Smash Master
WOW, thnx for stopping by mathos!!!!!!!At your request good sir,
Hope it helps some
-The Mighty Mathos
I'm glad i asked you for advice, and yea man, it will help...a lot! you covered my mistakes well!
- The Un-mighty Bpro
peace!
mathos
Smash Champion
Pish you guys keep talking about shine combos, but I believe thats what I call up-down combos. Unless you're talking about linking shines together. . . . which isn't exactly so great to kill people.
Dag yo I'm Mathos, if you want tips on tactics and lasers I'm here for you, but if you have technical perfection and aggression hit up DaShizWiz. :-p
Dag yo I'm Mathos, if you want tips on tactics and lasers I'm here for you, but if you have technical perfection and aggression hit up DaShizWiz. :-p
technomancer
Smash Champion
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Yo Mathos does SHL kill pichu at 999%?
Dude I want both Im tryna mix all of the style of the great Falco's...Sort of a Fusion-Ha
mathos
Smash Champion
Only if he's trying to recover and you make the laser "eat" his jump, but really that can happen at many percents
Well thats a good idea, but you can't expect an electrical engineer to teach you mechanical engineering. . . . . . . . DaShizWiz likes teh combos, Mathos likes the lasers, Forward likes doing crazy things, Dope controls pace, and PC is just good, but this is just the Mighty's perspective. Everyone copies ideas from everyone.
viperboy_74
Smash Master
by the book combo's ftl... tho that works if you know how to use it...
Repryx Like how Mathos Talks in third person....Anyhoo When Repryx said what about shine combos Repryx was just teasin cuz Mathos said "Shine combos are for scrubs" Repryx was hopin to get the same out of Mathos in the blunt matter and get BrawlPro to try to do more....Today Repryx Mixed Mathos & Shine combos to get Miz on a Fox....now Repryx has to Do some Forward type stuff to get Mizward then PC and Dope to make PC Mizwardope...y'know....DC Mizward (Dope PC Mathos Shiz 4ward in that order 4 the name) If any1 can acheive this full mix-up....change your name to this and wear an over 9000 shirt...... Mathos, Repryx thinks your great but Repryx also realizes that Ripping Mathos' style fully would be Ludacris...so why not mix all styles and make it Repryx's own....call it the perfect blend
brawlpro
Smash Master
good luck!
brawlpro
Smash Master
I didn't appreciate that -_-
o and thats not progress compared to mine =P
Yeesh If I had transportation to missouri Id see a Nelly concert then come over and teach you a thing or 2....tell you what....Im gonna visit my mentor and record a couple matches w/ him and show them to you. I started playin 9 months ago...and I learned that the game wa professional 4 months ago....along with all of the WD SHFFL blah blah gimme a dollar Im buckwheat. THATS why I consider it progress....I lose alot (CUZ THEY KEEP PUTTIN ME ON TO PROS IN TOURNEYS) but Ive beaten people who clearly have played longer than me and have more exp...and Ive taken my share of stocks of the semi-pro level people in my area... in my only 3 tourneys...! thats good to me!
(I hope we get a good connection in brawl cuz MO is too far of a drive)
brawlpro
Smash Master
yea man, playin you in brawl will be fun, like lets go my fox(my main) vs ur falco(hopefully ur main)
if our connection don't lag at all, record?
well u can c my wii#
post urs when u get it.
btw i typed like this cause i'm on wii & it takes a while to type here...peace!
if our connection don't lag at all, record?
well u can c my wii#
post urs when u get it.
btw i typed like this cause i'm on wii & it takes a while to type here...peace!
mathos
Smash Champion
brawl will use its own numbers, so you'll need different numbers than your wii #
like mario kart ds
like mario kart ds
mathos
Smash Champion
Well I'll take that as a compliment but I have no idea what you mean. I always thought I would be like Guile spamming sonic**** constantly.
James Sparrow
Smash Master
Mathos taught me how to utilt
brawlpro
Smash Master
new video, btw i can shl a lot better now, i like mathos therefore i practiced it and have it down good now, this is a bit old, so don't tell me i can't or tell me to shl better, ^^ here, it gets better as it ends lol
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HhAHyW4Q5ig
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HhAHyW4Q5ig
Goldkirby
Smash Ace
tiger tiger tiger tiger tiger tiger tiger tiger tiger tiger tiger tiger tiger tiger tiger tiger tiger (other person jumps in) tiger uppercut! tiger tiger tiger tiger tiger...
Of course this is O.Sagat b/c N.Sagat's fireballs have too much recovery time.
RaynEX
Colonel RTSD
off topic: zomg goldkirby you play 3s. Finally a kindred spirit.
wheres the MvC2?!
wheres the MvC2?!
Hey BP you used Shine Combos....you dont like Mathos.... lolz no JK uhm do more things out of the SHL (Grab WD BAck) to put an opponent in a fix.
Try SHFFLed Uairs to make those combos longer.
Of course...Move faster lolz All Falcos....Move Faster now!
What else...dont always Dair Shine...Try Dair uptilt...easy damage... thats about it...I may record w/ my teacher in 2-5 weeks (Homecoming SATs etc are preventing me)
Try SHFFLed Uairs to make those combos longer.
Of course...Move faster lolz All Falcos....Move Faster now!
What else...dont always Dair Shine...Try Dair uptilt...easy damage... thats about it...I may record w/ my teacher in 2-5 weeks (Homecoming SATs etc are preventing me)
RaynEX
Colonel RTSD
w/ your teacher? Your teacher plays smash?
brawlpro
Smash Master
His teacher as in smash teacher...
RaynEX
Colonel RTSD
lmao.
it could happen. One of my school teachers played smash..
it could happen. One of my school teachers played smash..