MUST READ FOR NEW PLAYER: Guide to Competitive Battling

[rhan]

There's a screw up in the OP. Infernape picture where a Salamance is suppose to be. I have no idea if I'm the only one who reconized it.

 

[SpiredMoth]

There's a screw up in the OP. Infernape picture where a Salamance is suppose to be. I have no idea if I'm the only one who reconized it.

Multiple people have already made posts pointing this out.

 

[ranmaru]

Move Relearner is a NPC in one of the towns who reteaches your pokemon a move they learn by level-up but don't currently know in exchange for an item, usually a Heart Scale.

Ah, thank you. I've only played Gold though. Only thing I can remember about that is the NPC who erases HM moves and others for you. I haven't seen any Relearner NPC's in gold as of yet. xD

 

[SpiredMoth]

Ah, thank you. I've only played Gold though. Only thing I can remember about that is the NPC who erases HM moves and others for you. I haven't seen any Relearner NPC's in gold as of yet. xD

I don't know if there was a Move Relearner in GS, but I could be wrong.

Also he won't teach a pokemon a move they are not at a high enough level to learn by level-up.

 

[ranmaru]

Hmmm, that is pretty resourceful though. I sometimes regret having erased one move for the other. I plan to get Platinum in the future, so that I may be able to practice and battle with actual people haha.

 

[SpiredMoth]

Hmmm, that is pretty resourceful though. I sometimes regret having erased one move for the other. I plan to get Platinum in the future, so that I may be able to practice and battle with actual people haha.

You could just wait until early 2010 and get one of the GS remakes, HeartGold or SoulSilver.

 

[ranmaru]

Thanks, I'm really glad they are coming out with that. I am afraid my Gold might die sometime soon. xD That is why I am constantly saving.

 

[jigglyppuff8]

You do realize that doing that will only cause it to die sooner, right? ;^^

 

[Wave⁂]

This post only pertains to the "Shoddy" portion of the guide, specifically starting at "Part 2: Moves".

Part 2: Add Heal Bell, Thunder Wave, xor Taunt
Part 4: Life Orb is two words
Part 5: Confusion and attraction aren't status by definition
Part 6.1: Expand on and define the tiers, including BL, NU, and mentioning Suspect testing

Part 7:
2.2.3: Replace the freaking picture of Infernape
7.2: Replace Steelix with Gliscor or Registeel
2.2.1.1: Replace Milotic's Hypnosis with HP Electric or Grass. Hypnosis is so DP.
2.3.2: NO ONE LIKES MUKING BLISSEY, try Clefable.
2.3.3: No one uses Dusknoir anymore. Hippowdon?
2.4.1: Toxic Spikes and Spikes on the same Pokemon is bad. Cloyster is bad. Replace with...
Skarmory @ Leftovers / Shed Shell
Random EVs and nature
Spikes
Roost
Whirlwind
Brave Bird / Drill Peck
2.4.4: No one actually uses Haze. Gyarados, Latias, or Hippowdon with Roar, or even Perish Song Celebi.
2.4.6: Umbreon.

 

[Terywj [태리]]

Wait so we're revising it now...?

-Terywj

 

[xLeafybug =D]

I'd be down to help revise it.

 

[Terywj [태리]]

I'd like to help out too, but I didn't know we were going to revise / re-edit it. Annoying just came in and bumped it..

-Terywj

 

[UltiMario]

I'm sure I could help in some way or another, I'm sure I could make something or another in respect to sets.

If this thread also pertains to cartrage play, then stuff about Acid Rain, and other cartrage exclusive elements, should be in here too, I actually have a juicy tidbit when it comes to Acid Rain, maybe I'll post it if revising this thing ever happens.

 

[Circa]

I seem to recall reading not long after the Shoddy 2 topic was started that Colin was actually going to implement the Acid Rain glitch into Shoddy 2. As for if it's still true, I don't know. He may have changed his mind since then.

 

[Terywj [태리]]

Wait. Acid Rain? Anyone wanna fill me in?

(I'm assuming it's like some damage-dealing Rain?)

-Terywj

 

[Circa]

http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Acid_rain

That basically explains it all. But to put it simply, all weather conditions at once.

 

[UltiMario]

............
You don't know what Acid Rain is...?
Wha.... how..... nevermind.

Pretty much, if Trick Room, SS, ANY WEATHER/BATTLE EFFECT is happenning except for Rain (Ironically enough), when using Pursuit when something is switching out, and that switching out Pokemon faints, suddenly all weather conditions (including TR and the like) happen simultaniously. Pokemon will take 4 turns of weather damage each turn, even getting damaged from their abilities due to the fun. Things like Rain Dish that heal HP will cause 4 turns of healing, and 4 turns of damage each turn. Only things like the Swinub Family which resist both weathers take no damage. Solarbeam takes no charge, BLizzard and Thunder are 100% accurate, and so on, and so on.

And this only occurs in Pt/HG/SS

 

[Terywj [태리]]

That's pretty imba.

And I don't know about it because it's never happened to me / I've never seen it discussed at Smogon.
Or because I stopped playing cartridge Diamond after I had a "successful" PokeDex of 450 owned out of like 480 seen.

-Terywj

 

[UltiMario]

Acid Rain wasn't on Diamond.
Unless you mean that was the last to you played on a cartrage period.

 

[Terywj [태리]]

Acid Rain wasn't on Diamond.
Unless you mean that was the last to you played on a cartrage period.

Oh, right. Then I should change my statement to "I've never seen it while battling my friends playing Platinum", haha.

-Terywj

 

[Terrador14]

It's Sludge Bomb, not Smudge Bomb on Weezing. *chews on cheek*.

I hope to God that Colin won't put Acid Rain in Shoddy 2. It'll ruin laddering for me, since we ALL know Smogon will shift to Shoddy 2 faster than Severus Snape confronted with shampoo. The line is epic. Yes, I stole it.

 

[Terywj [태리]]

There are a couple typos I noticed.

We can all revise it...if the owner of the OP sees our posts. xD

-Terywj

 

[Charmander]

Thanks for this, the nature list helped 8D

 

[Terywj [태리]]

We were considering revising it, but I guess that idea fell down the drain.

Although I don't think you needed to bump this..

-Terywj

 

[Charmander]

I thought that stickied threads can't BE bumped O.e

 

[Terywj [태리]]

Well yeah but that was still a big time margin inbetween your post.

-Terywj

 

[Wave⁂]

This thread should be locked.

 

[UltiMario]

Someone should Lock this thread and make a new one that fixes all the errors and is up-to-date.

 

[Terywj [태리]]

Someone AKA Spire. Haha.

But someone should start a thread where we can brainstorm ideas, etc. for the revised version.

-Terywj

 

[xLeafybug =D]

*looks at Terywj*

 

[Terywj [태리]]

*looks at Terywj*

What is this.

I may tomorrow, but I'd be more up for making a UU Metagame guide.

-Terywj

 

[supermarth64]

*Groan*

I'll be free to do it eventually. People don't mind if I use the same format, do they?

 

[Wave⁂]

I think we could just take Smogon's guide and change little parts to update it.

 

[Terywj [태리]]

Agreed. So would anyone be up for working with me on making a UU Guide just for fun / to add more projects to the PokeCenter?

-Terywj

 

[Metal~Mario]

I know little about UU, but I'd be willing to help.

 

[Terywj [태리]]

I'm thinking maybe Writer and Silent could help me out too...?

-Terywj

 

[SilentVerse]

I'm thinking maybe Writer and Silent could help me out too...?

-Terywj

I could help you if you want, since I know a fair amount on UU; but I'm kinda busy this week, as I still need to finish my Cresselia essay and possibly my Damp Rock one as well.

 

[Terywj [태리]]

Alrighty. Chances are I'll be taking the main format from the OP of this thread.

Do you want me to make a topic about it and work on it progressively?

-Terywj

 

[SilentVerse]

That would probably be better.

 

[Terywj [태리]]

Alright. I'll start writing up the draft tomorrow and have it posted hopefully by Friday / Saturday?

-Terywj