MultiVersus General Discussion

[Capybara Gaming]

You all talk about your cartoons and whatnot.

I'm just waiting for the likes of Kong (No hope for Godzilla rn unless new developments are known), Bigby Wolf, and Tony Soprano.

See now wouldn't Tony have been a much funnier pick though?

 

[Opossum]

See now wouldn't Tony have been a much funnier pick though?

The issue there is that it would defeat the purpose of what Banana Guard was for. Tony would not be able to reuse assets, and likely wouldn't be billed as a joke character. They'd also need to secure James Gandolfini's likeness.

Tony would need to be a full effort addition, which is not what Banana Guard is.

 

[GoldenYuiitusin]

See now wouldn't Tony have been a much funnier pick though?

No, Tony wouldn't have been because he wouldn't be meant to BE one.
Seriously. The Sopranos is just as valid of a series to get in as Game of Thrones is as a major HBO series.

And what would be the joke? That he's a "normal" mob boss while other fighters have more fantastical or cartoonish elements about them barring ****ing LeBron James the plain ol' basketball player that just happened to star in a movie with Looney Tunes characters?

Just stop.

 

[Michael the Spikester]

Is Friday the 13th even owned by Warner Bros.? How did they get the rights to use him?

 

[Capybara Gaming]

No, Tony wouldn't have been because he wouldn't be meant to BE one.
Seriously. The Sopranos is just as valid of a series to get in as Game of Thrones is as a major HBO series.

And what would be the joke? That he's a "normal" mob boss while other fighters have more fantastical or cartoonish elements about them barring ****ing LeBron James the plain ol' basketball player that just happened to star in a movie with Looney Tunes character?

Just stop.

No the funny part would be that he's fighting Shaggy and Steven Universe and Bugs Bunny, it's the tonal dissonance, just like how Arya Stark is funny in this game because the character from the show with incest and cannibalism is fighting with a bunch of kid friendly characters. A character can be a funny pick without being a joke themselves

 

[Michael the Spikester]

(No hope for Godzilla rn unless new developments are known)

Careful ShinGojira could be reading this right now. Lol.

That guy was a loser.

 

[GoldenYuiitusin]

No the funny part would be that he's fighting Shaggy and Steven Universe and Bugs Bunny, it's the tonal dissonance, just like how Arya Stark is funny in this game because the character from the show with incest and cannibalism is fighting with a bunch of kid friendly characters

So Arya is a joke character now.

 

[Capybara Gaming]

So Arya is a joke character now.

Read the edit

 

[Opossum]

Is Friday the 13th even owned by Warner Bros.? How did they get the rights to use him?

Long story short: mostly but it's complicated. They own the IP but can't use it without securing outside rights.

 

[Louie G.]

No, Tony wouldn't have been because he wouldn't be meant to BE one.

It's kind of difficult to pin down what a "joke character" in Multiversus even means or looks like. Obviously Banana Guard qualifies, just because he's such a left field choice even within his own series, but anyone who is the main character of a WB property is pretty much on par with anyone else. It's really an anything goes kind of game - so yeah, Tony Soprano being there is funny on paper, but no more or less than Arya Stark fighting alongside Bugs Bunny.

It's sort of the same thing with Smash. Piranha Plant reads as a gag character by virtue of its identity within its own series, but someone like ROB or Wii Fit Trainer are generally treated with the same amount of esteem or validity as any other character in the game. These crossover games are goofy at the core and as such it's kind of hard to sell the audience on a "joke character", on convey that they are in fact a joke, unless they are so far detached from anything resembling a main character or a fighter that it wraps around to utter ridiculousness.

 

[darkvortex]

Is Friday the 13th even owned by Warner Bros.? How did they get the rights to use him?

Yes. Kind of. New line owns the film rights but the actual character was split between the two creators iirc. Things finally got worked out

 

[Capybara Gaming]

Long story short: mostly but it's complicated. They own the IP but can't use it without securing outside rights.

It's the creator of the IP that has been causing the trouble, right? That's why the F13th game couldn't get more content iirc

 

[AreJay25]

Man I can't believe they got well renowned voice actor "N/A" to provide their talents for the role of Jason in this game

 

[GoldenYuiitusin]

Read the edit

I did, and the point is still just as ridiculous.

Tony wouldn't be meant to be a "funny pick".
Just the idea would be inherently funny in concept given the tonal dissonance, but he's otherwise meant to be taken seriously since he's ****ing Tony Soprano from The Sopranos.

Notice how we're talking of Jason Vorhees, who is even more of a tonal dissonance given he's a slasher film star, yet I don't see you attempting to claim he's a "funny pick".

 

[Michael the Spikester]

Hey! Hey! Hey! Since its possible for anyone to be in Multiversus that isn't WB owned! When's Mario? When's Mickey Mouse!?

 

[Opossum]

Hey! Hey! Hey! Since its possible for anyone to be in Multiversus that isn't WB owned! When's Mario? When's Mickey Mouse!?

Did you just completely ignore people's replies to you?

 

[DanganZilla5]

This game's relaunch so far has been very...rough, to say the least.

But I'm genuinely excited for Jason (if I'm not dreaming right now). An actual hype character and one of the characters I wrote up an essay for and gave a 100% for want is coming??? He may just be the thing to get me back into the game.

And speaking of Jason, I'm not sure if I ever shared this anywhere on Smashboards but during the Smash 4 days I had a dream where Jason came to Smash. The only thing I remember from the dream was that Jason's intro was his coffin falling from the sky vertically and he walks out of it.

This is the closest thing to having that dream come true and that's absolutely wild.

 

[GoldenYuiitusin]

It's kind of difficult to pin down what a "joke character" in Multiversus even means or looks like. Obviously Banana Guard qualifies, just because he's such a left field choice even within his own series, but anyone who is the main character of a WB property is pretty much on par with anyone else. It's really an anything goes kind of game - so yeah, Tony Soprano being there is funny on paper, but no more or less than Arya Stark fighting alongside Bugs Bunny.

It's sort of the same thing with Smash. Piranha Plant reads as a gag character by virtue of its identity within its own series, but someone like ROB or Wii Fit Trainer are generally treated with the same amount of esteem or validity as any other character in the game. These crossover games are goofy at the core and as such it's kind of hard to sell the audience on a "joke character", on convey that they are in fact a joke, unless they are so far detached from anything resembling a main character or a fighter that it wraps around to utter ridiculousness.

But we're talking Tony Soprano being comparable as a joke to the Banana Guard.

Which is just as valid as comparing Jason to Banana Guard for similar reasons to Tony.

Two are merely tonally different but still taken just as seriously as everyone else while one is clearly meant to be a joke.

 

[Michael the Spikester]

Did you just completely ignore people's replies to you?

MultiVersus General Discussion

The heads being static 2D clip art doesn't help. I don't even like Rick and Morty, but I was expecting more from a stage from it than another Batcave/Treehouse. Why? All the stages in this game are lifeless and boring.

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From a few years ago. The devs said they're down for anyone especially given those rumors regarding Eleven from Stranger Things. Also Chip n' Dale (2022) despite being a Disney film had characters from non-Disney properties.

 

[Master Hero Sock-on-Rye]

So...

About the crouching elephant, hidden banana in the room.

It's not that picking the Banana Guard as a new Adventure Time character in MultiVersus is a bad thing. It's the when, where, and how of it that makes troublesome.

First, there's the internal competition of strictly Adventure Time characters. Marceline, Ice King, Fionna the Human, Lemongrab, Lady Rainicorn, BMO, Princess Bubblegum, just to name a few. Heck, PB could just use the guards in her moveset as someone around here said, like Peach and Toad in Smash. With seven characters making a bigger splash than this, why go with the goofballs?

Second, there's the possibility that this was meant to reuse assets. In that case, Mr. Meeseeks could have done this job and gotten a more positive reception at the same time. And doing that could have coincidentally promoted the Rick and Morty anime, even if Meeseeks isn't confirmed to appear in it.

Third, we pretty much only have three newcomers for the relaunch in 11 days, and one of them is Banana Guard. That. Is. Putrid. I get it that they wanted to use a Cartoon Network character and throw a curveball by skipping over Blossom, Bubbles, Buttercup, and Dexter. Heck, I could even understand choosing another 2010s CN rep, especially considering the renaissance of TAWOG. But this is not a character you want to add when you have room in the budget for three newcomers. Five newcomers, I can understand. I can even tolerate four newcomers. But this is a low blow for darn near everyone.

To add the cherry on top of this banana split, pun intended, the trailer actually ends with Banana Guard asking if we really like him, and not in a joke character kind of way. This makes me feel as bad for him as I do for the fans.

In short, I don't hate the idea of adding the Banana Guard in this game. But how he was added to the roster is something I do not like.

If that slot between Jake and Joker is another divisive pick, I wouldn't know what to do with myself.

 

[Opossum]

MultiVersus General Discussion

The heads being static 2D clip art doesn't help. I don't even like Rick and Morty, but I was expecting more from a stage from it than another Batcave/Treehouse. Why? All the stages in this game are lifeless and boring.

smashboards.com

From a few years ago. The devs said they're down for anyone especially given those rumors regarding Eleven from Stranger Things. Also Chip n' Dale (2022) despite being a Disney film had characters from non-Disney properties.

They're open to them. But as of now there isn't a single character who's been leaked or datamined that doesn't have a WB connection. The closest thing was the prototype Eleven model, but leakers have since confirmed that that was a leftover from when they pitched the game to Netflix and they declined.

In other words, I'll consider characters who are completely divorced from the WB when there's any confirmed playable precedent for it. Until then, it's incredibly unlikely.

 

[Louie G.]

But we're talking Tony Soprano being comparable as a joke to the Banana Guard.

For what it's worth, we're on the same page. I was saying it's hard to classify Tony as a joke or a comedic character off tonal dissonance alone because that extends to a lot of the roster already. There is some comedy in having a character who is literally just an Italian guy from real life New Jersey, which is why it's at least an idea that could make people laugh, but factoring in all the mobster stuff and letting him fill that niche gives him plenty to work with and I think he'd slot in nicely. By some metric and juxtaposition every character is a little bit silly.

Banana Guard is the only kind of character who clearly reads as a joke simply because of how irrelevant or unviable they are in the grand scheme or things. Alternatively one of the characters I want the most - Larry David - is also a character from an HBO series taking place in the real world. But it does end up reading as more of a gag pick when considering Larry doesn't really face any serious drama or stakes. It's a similar thing on paper, but one needs to be taking a lot more creative liberties than the other and would just come out very goofy and not all that serious by nature. So maybe you could call him a joke character, but even then he's at least the main character of a popular show.

 

[CapitaineCrash]

Second, there's the possibility that this was meant to reuse assets. In that case, Mr. Meeseeks could have done this job and gotten a more positive reception at the same time. And doing that could have coincidentally promoted the Rick and Morty anime, even if Meeseeks isn't confirmed to appear in it.

I really don't see why Mr. Meeseek would have got a better reception. The only thing you could argue Meeseek have for them is maybe more moveset potential? But working harder for a more complex moveset kind of remove the point of the joke character taking less development time.

 

[KneeOfJustice99]

They're open to them. But as of now there isn't a single character who's been leaked or datamined that doesn't have a WB connection. The closest thing was the prototype Eleven model, but leakers have since confirmed that that was a leftover from when they pitched the game to Netflix and they declined.

In other words, I'll consider characters who are completely divorced from the WB when there's any confirmed playable precedent for it. Until then, it's incredibly unlikely.

Weird take... but I'd lowkey love to have seen what this game actually would have looked like if Netflix took them up on the offer.

Like, considering Netflix's penchant for supporting exactly two shows (Stranger Things and, uh, Big Mouth?) there might be some roster shenanigans (for instance, I can imagine them including a character from a third-party show they're broadcasting then retroactively removing them when the contract expires or some crap like that) but then there's still tons of potential on that front for this to be "the game that had Spyro, Saul Goodman, Light Yagami and Yasuke" or something.

Hell, with Netflix's gaming division trying to be a thing... would they want you to have a Netflix account to even play the game? Would the game be integrated into Netflix itself?

If this ever did happen btw I'd wholeheartedly support Five (The Umbrella Academy) and Reagan Ridley (Inside Job) though they'd be my big picks

 

[GoldenYuiitusin]

Genos de Papas Fritas confirmed Jason is legit.

MultiversusSusie confirms the PPG are Season 1 but post-relaunch.

Nakat says Banana is "strong; like actually....", implying we have a lethal joke character on our hands.

 

[CapitaineCrash]

Weird take... but I'd lowkey love to have seen what this game actually would have looked like if Netflix took them up on the offer.

Like, considering Netflix's penchant for supporting exactly two shows (Stranger Things and, uh, Big Mouth?) there might be some roster shenanigans (for instance, I can imagine them including a character from a third-party show they're broadcasting then retroactively removing them when the contract expires or some crap like that) but then there's still tons of potential on that front for this to be "the game that had Spyro, Saul Goodman, Light Yagami and Yasuke" or something.

Hell, with Netflix's gaming division trying to be a thing... would they want you to have a Netflix account to even play the game? Would the game be integrated into Netflix itself?

If this ever did happen btw I'd wholeheartedly support Five (The Umbrella Academy) and Reagan Ridley (Inside Job) though they'd be my big picks

Yeah I don't really see how this game with Netflix would have work. Netflix don't even own most of the show that aired on it, so I think every character would have been really hard to work with.

Kind of off topic but I wonder if they pitched the concept to other company, like Disney too.

 

[GoldenYuiitusin]

Kind of off topic but I wonder if they pitched the concept to other company, like Disney too.

If the fact there was something about the S.H.I.E.L.D. Hellicarrier and Hulk as well as a Fix-It Felix Jr. arcade cabinet found in old datamines, probably.

 

[KneeOfJustice99]

Yeah I don't really see how this game with Netflix would have work. Netflix don't even own most of the show that aired on it, so I think every character would have been really hard to work with.

Kind of off topic but I wonder if they pitched the concept to other company, like Disney too.

Yeah, that's a fair point. Hell, come to think of it - a lot of the stuff they actually do make in-house is adaptations (like the aforementioned The Umbrella Academy), so even those probably have some legal... issues.

If the fact there was something about the S.H.I.E.L.D. Hellicarrier and Hulk as well as a Fix-It Felix Jr. arcade cabinet found in old datamines, probably.

Also, yeah, I vaguely remember hearing about the Hulk datamine. I imagine the game's artstyle probably would have gotten a lot of comparisons to Disney Infinity if that were the case, ahaha

 

[RileyXY1]

So...

About the crouching elephant, hidden banana in the room.

It's not that picking the Banana Guard as a new Adventure Time character in MultiVersus is a bad thing. It's the when, where, and how of it that makes troublesome.

First, there's the internal competition of strictly Adventure Time characters. Marceline, Ice King, Fionna the Human, Lemongrab, Lady Rainicorn, BMO, Princess Bubblegum, just to name a few. Heck, PB could just use the guards in her moveset as someone around here said, like Peach and Toad in Smash. With seven characters making a bigger splash than this, why go with the goofballs?

Second, there's the possibility that this was meant to reuse assets. In that case, Mr. Meeseeks could have done this job and gotten a more positive reception at the same time. And doing that could have coincidentally promoted the Rick and Morty anime, even if Meeseeks isn't confirmed to appear in it.

Third, we pretty much only have three newcomers for the relaunch in 11 days, and one of them is Banana Guard. That. Is. Putrid. I get it that they wanted to use a Cartoon Network character and throw a curveball by skipping over Blossom, Bubbles, Buttercup, and Dexter. Heck, I could even understand choosing another 2010s CN rep, especially considering the renaissance of TAWOG. But this is not a character you want to add when you have room in the budget for three newcomers. Five newcomers, I can understand. I can even tolerate four newcomers. But this is a low blow for darn near everyone.

To add the cherry on top of this banana split, pun intended, the trailer actually ends with Banana Guard asking if we really like him, and not in a joke character kind of way. This makes me feel as bad for him as I do for the fans.

In short, I don't hate the idea of adding the Banana Guard in this game. But how he was added to the roster is something I do not like.

If that slot between Jake and Joker is another divisive pick, I wouldn't know what to do with myself.

Everyone's now saying that the last launch character is Jason Voorhees himself from Friday the 13th.

 

[KingofPhantoms]

I really don't see why Mr. Meeseek would have got a better reception. The only thing you could argue Meeseek have for them is maybe more moveset potential? But working harder for a more complex moveset kind of remove the point of the joke character taking less development time.

Mr. Meeseeks generally seem to be better well-known and well-liked than the Banana Guards, at least among older audiences, so I actually wouldn't have been surprised if reception to them had been much more positive.

Still, I'm alright with the Banana Guard since they were a source of a lot of good humor in Adventure Time.

 

[CapitaineCrash]

Tony confirmed on Twitter that we're getting a character reveal on Monday and he said "Monday is going to be insane". Maybe multiple characters? (I'm guessing Jason and maybe a Powerpuff girls teasing for a mid season 1 update).

Honestly Banana aside, they really have a great momentum right now. The pve stuff is promising and if the characters keep coming, I'm starting to be more optimistic now.

 

[GoldenYuiitusin]

Tony confirmed on Twitter that we're getting a character reveal on Monday and he said "Monday is going to be insane". Maybe multiple characters? (I'm guessing Jason and maybe a Powerpuff girls teasing for a mid season 1 update).

Honestly Banana aside, they really have a great momentum right now. The pve stuff is promising and if the characters keep coming, I'm starting to be more optimistic now.

Could probably just be a direct nod to Jason's mental state.

 

[Faso115]

Imma get ahead of myself and say that whoever says Jason is too serious for MVS hasn't seen Jason X

 

[SneakyLink]

Wanted to ask a quick question:

With the potential for multiple reveals, I have seen images on what Season 1’s roster could be.

Joker and Banana Guard

Spoiler

Plus Jason, Powerpuff Girls, and Neo (Matrix)

Now, I understand where Jason and Powerpuff Girls are coming from.
But where is Neo coming from?

 

[MartianSnake]

Imma get ahead of myself and say that whoever says Jason is too serious for MVS hasn't seen Jason X

80s slashers like Jason have always been treated more like Pro Wrestlers than actual murderous killers. It'll be fineeeeeeee.

 

[Opossum]

Wanted to ask a quick question:

With the potential for multiple reveals, I have seen images on what Season 1’s roster could be.

Joker and Banana Guard

Spoiler

Plus Jason, Powerpuff Girls, and Neo (Matrix)

Now, I understand where Jason and Powerpuff Girls are coming from.
But where is Neo coming from?

I mean is this just speculation or is there something to it? You're not posting the images or saying where you saw them.

 

[Capybara Gaming]

If that were the season one lineup I'd say it is a good mix outside of the one stinker, though I still don't think any of them reasonably speaking are main material. It's gonna take like Ben 10 for that

 

[fogbadge]

That. Is. Putrid.

that is overdramatic

 

[darkvortex]

Wanted to ask a quick question:

With the potential for multiple reveals, I have seen images on what Season 1’s roster could be.

Joker and Banana Guard

Spoiler

Plus Jason, Powerpuff Girls, and Neo (Matrix)

Now, I understand where Jason and Powerpuff Girls are coming from.
But where is Neo coming from?

where have you been hearing\seeing this?

 

[SneakyLink]

I mean is this just speculation or is there something to it? You're not posting the images or saying where you saw them.

where have you been hearing\seeing this?

Apologies for the late reply. I wanted to gather research specifically for Neo. To answer, it's speculation.

Basically, PFG posted this tweet (To ensure pics work I'm just posting as a link) showcasing their office. One of the things people noticed in the first pic is a poster with a Matrix looking effect. Hence why people are speculating Neo.

I don't buy it as speculation fuel, more as a cool poster. If it were about poster theory, then the Watchmen (third picture) would also be speculated, yet I see it mostly focusing Neo.