Moveset Differences

[Guybrush20X6]

Anyone notice anything different?

It seemed that his up aerial is faster.

 

[MasterOfKnees]

I don't see any completely new moves, but he seems to have gotten quite the buff.

His down-tilt now sets nicely up for a combo(!), his up-air looks to hit better, u-tilt has a better range (feet gets bigger) and he can now cancel faster into his Up-B. In general it also seems like he has more knockback

 

[War Anvil]

Good points, both of you. If Sonic's moveset doesn't get that big of a buff, though, then at least the gameplay would be a major buff in and of itself, right?

 

[Guybrush20X6]

Good points, both of you. If Sonic's moveset doesn't get that big of a buff, though, then at least the gameplay would be a major buff in and of itself, right?

Only time will tell but from what we've seen his combo power is improved.

 

[Toxicroaker]

can someone send me a link to the video/videos you have seen this in?

 

[MasterOfKnees]

can someone send me a link to the video/videos you have seen this in?

 

[Kapus]

Looks like his moveset is unchanged. Still has Spin Dash, Spin Charge and Homing Attack.

Oh well, it looks like he got a buff anyhow. His attacks link together neatly now and he seems to have better knockback.

 

[Ussi]

It looked like dair sent more sideways than up, however we should take angles with a grain of salt because i'm assuming no real DI is going on or could be the wrong DI -_-;;

 

[SonicMario]

You have to remember this isn't the final product. They could have time to tweak Sonic some more by the time the finished product is out. It's not the same as it was in Brawl. When he came in late, he can be more planned out this time.

 

[Smashoperatingbuddy123]

On the part that he dodged samus charge-shot thats a new move

And you know sidestepping is down and rolling on left and right

Maybe its a new mechanic of an up while shielding compared too the left/right/down while shielding

 

[BSP]

It looked like dair sent more sideways than up, however we should take angles with a grain of salt because i'm assuming no real DI is going on or could be the wrong DI -_-;;

Mario pivot grabbed though...maybe they know what they're doing?

 

[Mr. Johan]

It looked like dair sent more sideways than up, however we should take angles with a grain of salt because i'm assuming no real DI is going on or could be the wrong DI -_-;;

Dair sends opponents horizontally during the first few frames. It's about a quarter second later when the Dair sends them upward.

 

[Katakiri]

A D-Air that always sends foes horizontally sound disgusting good considering how fast Sonic can chase them. That is assuming Sonic can still D-Air off-stage to edge-guard and still Spring in time to survive. It's a nice setup in Brawl but is limited by exactly what Sonic Storm said above.

 

[Nazo]

On the part that he dodged samus charge-shot thats a new move

I'm sure that's not a new move. I looked more like Sonic cancelled his skid stop animation with a jump>airdodge.

 

[Moon Monkey]

I think his spin charge will definitely be replaced with something else.
But the properties of some of his moves like his down air seems to have changed

 

[BSP]

Dair looks the same from what they showed us.

 

[sWiTcHeRoO [疾~斬]]

Not sure if it applies with moveset differences but he looks like he plays slower now. Like, not running speed, but his attacks.
I know he didn't have moves that were that fast in Brawl but it doesn't seem like their speed were buffed or changed much to me.
Then again the people they always show playing in the trailers are most likely not even that good at the game and don't follow up on most things unless they try showing off like a single basic combo, so there's that too.
Here's hoping he has more combo ability and KO moves, and just overall better gameplay from Brawl. That goes for every other character too of course.

 

[Luigi player]

dtilt has always set up for utilt combos.

 

[Cheezey Bites]

On the pilots wing stage when he uses his Spin Dash the trajectory looks odd to me, far flatter and falling quicker, and the start up lag seems to be longer... is that my imagination?

I personally hope it means Spin Charge can be directed (and into a hop for the end) to free up a slot for a boost move, but I think honestly I'm just seeing things because of that.

 

[kid craft 24/sonic master]

we still have yet to see his dash attack forward air neutral air up smash down smash and forward tilt. They have the ending frames of forward smash in the screen shot with mario using jab on the site. But hopefully they give him atleast one new move or alter his animations in some way to make it less like a complete copy/paste. Though the game still is in development and sonic is still missing a lot of facial expressions. Theres a screen shot of him on the site that has the animation when he gets hit but his facial expression still has that same normal smile. We also havent seen any of his throws yet.

 

[BlitznBurst]

Eeven if Sonic wasn't changed, the faster gameplay would probably serve to his advantage anyway.

I'm not very big on analysing this stuff, but it does look like his attacks are faster and chain together easier, which is definitely a good thing. My biggest issue with Sonic was that despite having the fastest running speed his attacks weren't as fast as I felt they should be, and I think he's definitely been improved in that area. It's too hard to tell from just gameplay footage, though.

 

[peeup]

Have all the revealed vets had videos to accompany them? Where did people find the Sonic one? I can't find it on the Smashbros website.

 

[Cheezey Bites]

Have all the revealed vets had videos to accompany them? Where did people find the Sonic one? I can't find it on the Smashbros website.

No, only sonic, and it was shown on Direct.

 

[Sonsa]

Maybe I'm wrong but at the moment where he hits Fox and DK with a spin charge thingie at the end of the animation looks like a sliding kick. Might just be animation, but it looks like it did more knockback and was a hit of its own, kind of like the attack in Project M.
...hmm...nah nevermind I think it was just his animation for stopping the spin dash. He could use a few small changes though...

 

[BlitznBurst]

Have all the revealed vets had videos to accompany them? Where did people find the Sonic one? I can't find it on the Smashbros website.

It was shown on the recent Nintendo Direct. Sonic is the only one to get a video because he's kind of a big deal since so many doubted his return

 

[Lugubrious]

Can anyone identify the turquoise blast-thing in this picture?

 

[Guybrush20X6]

Can anyone identify the turquoise blast-thing in this picture?

I think it's the hit effect after Sonic spun through the green crew.

 

[Silverjay323]

Can anyone identify the turquoise blast-thing in this picture?

I believe that's the animation after his Spin Dash/Dash Attack.

 

[BlitznBurst]

Some Lost World inspiration could definitely go a long way, like making his homing attack lock onto multiple opponents or using the kick to send them flying into other enemies

 

[extremechiton]

i just hope down b and side b arnt the same move again.

as for the turquoise stuff, it looks like the impact wave, like when you hit the ground hard, a flash of color emanates from where you landed.

 

[DakotaBonez]

Please put the Video in the Original Post!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T7w5XUPHFoY

I didn't realize there was footage outside of the nintendo direct vid.
All the smash bros related vids can be found on SmashbrosCh
However, if ya try to visit this channel it just links ya back to Nintendo's youtube channel. How the hell did they even do that?

Anyway

On the part that he dodged samus charge-shot thats a new move

And you know sidestepping is down and rolling on left and right

Maybe its a new mechanic of an up while shielding compared too the left/right/down while shielding

I was wonderin what was up with that move too. He starts skidding on his feet but then jumps mid-skid into a dodge.

 

[Smashoperatingbuddy123]

i just hope down b and side b arnt the same move again.

as for the turquoise stuff, it looks like the impact wave, like when you hit the ground hard, a flash of color emanates from where you landed.

Sorry look at the second megaman and mario part thats the charge up down b and pyrosphere and the wii resort island part side b

 

[Tesh]

Sorry guys, there is absolutely nothing new in that trailer.

The "sliding kick" is just sonic uptilting after his spindash ran out because he turned around and hit multiple objects.

The move that dodged the charge shot is just a short hop airdodge, same exact animations from brawl. He was running around and jumped and airdodged, which anyone can do any time while running.

Still a long time until launch, hopefully some changes come to the vets.

 

[MSmariosonic]

On the part that he dodged samus charge-shot thats a new move

And you know sidestepping is down and rolling on left and right

Maybe its a new mechanic of an up while shielding compared too the left/right/down while shielding

Air dodge

 

[MSmariosonic]

My hopes for Sonic for now are..giving him a dropkick..similiar to the move he does on the box art of Sonic Battle. He's the perfect character to give a meteor smash to.

 

[grizby2]

sonic needs more knockback, and by the look of the video, it looks like that's what hes getting.

 

[Warheart_666]

I wonder if Sonic gets a meteor smash now?

 

[MSmariosonic]

I wonder if Sonic gets a meteor smash now?

That would be just amazing!

 

[Deleted member]

I haven't noticed any as of yet. He looks to be about the same as he was in Brawl so far. Though, I find the physics change will buff Sonic.

You should also keep in mind that Sakurai did say on Peach's Pic of the Day that her moves might get refreshed before the game is released. So, I think the same will apply to Sonic where he will get some new moves eventually. I'm gonna be optimistic towards this since Sakurai and his team have more time to fix up Sonic's moveset now.

 

[Smashoperatingbuddy123]

sonic needs more knockback, and by the look of the video, it looks like that's what hes getting.

I noticed as well