Social Mother of the Cosmos: Rosalina [General/Social] Thread (Closed)

[NintenRob]

I don't mean any offense, but that argument saying that the existence of a baby version of Rosalina in a spin-off game ruins her character is the stupidest thing I've read all day.
It also baffles that people seem to forget that in MKW, Diddy and Bowser Jr. were unlockable characters. So before going on saying that they got the boot for the babies instead, withhold your judgement, think a bit and remember what I wrote.

We do actually know the roster as reviewers have pointed out. Also, I have changed my mind about Baby Rosalina and really like the baby now.

Young Master Luma still has that god damn hat...

LUBBA! And here I thought Nintendo would forget about him.

And thats a really nice picture of Rosalina, I can't wait to see what she does when she gets an eagle, especially when you look at her birdie animation.

 

[Ridley_Prime]

Just because I don't like the concept of Baby Rosalina doesn't mean I think it ruins her character. >.>

 

[Baskerville]

A young, non baby version of her would've been a better choice to be honest. Y'know, the young Rosalina in the damn storybook!

 

[ChikoLad]

So in Mario Kart 8, you can get these alternate title screens with different characters who will say different things.

There's your standard Mario one...
One with an Engineer Toad and Mario...
One with Luigi...
One with Bowser...
...One with Rosalina...and that's it! Not even Peach gets one! And lots of people are really confused or are throwing a fit!:V

Rosalina's reign is upon us...

I think Peach is on the multiplayer menu anyway, so...

 

[M23-X0]

Young Master Luma still has that god damn hat...

Is that from Mario Golf 3DS ? Nice to see Polari and Lubba at the background^^

 

[C3CC]

Great to see Polari and Lubba back! I wonder why Nintendo hasn't made Lubba playable yet. He has so much potential. He could have been in Mario Kart 7 instead of Honey Queen, and in Mario Kart 8 too. Oh well. I guess cameos like in Mario Golf: World Tour and Super Smash Bros. for Wii U is all he'll get.

 

[Claire Diviner]

The more I hear Rosalina talk, the more I miss Mercedes Rose as her voice actress.

 

[ChikoLad]

I wouldn't mind Mercedes being back, but I like Laura. I just watched a video of Rosalina running through the Shell Cup in MK8 (I'll put it down below), and while I get why people may be put off by her, I think she just sounds that way because the voice clips in MK8 need to sound really excited, so naturally, the louder Rosalina is screaming, the higher pitched she will sound. And even so, I disagree that she sounds like Peach, what most people claim. Peach isn't the only woman to sound high pitched. Rosalina still sounds different. And in general, her voice clips are more reserved than Peach, especially when she isn't jumping off of ramps or whatever. I'm really eager to hear how she sounds in Smash though, since she seems really deadpan there (except for that one pose that I'm betting is a taunt).

I have to wonder though - what future plans has Nintendo got for Rosalina?

I mean, I chalked Rosalina in 3D World and Smash as isolated instances (3D World because it's made by the creators of Galaxy and the producer of the game basically created Rosalina, and Smash because if they wanted a new Mario character, she made the most sense, as she was the next most significant character after the main 4), and at first, I didn't think her return in MK8 was anything special. But Rosalina has basically trumped Peach as the poster girl for this game, who is usually featured prominently, alongside Daisy, in promotional material. But in Japan, you can get MK8 playing cards as a pre-order bonus for the game, and you can get a Mario set, or a Rosalina set. Peach is just a joker alongside Luigi in the Mario set, while Mario and Rosalina are the more detailed cards. And now, Rosalina can show up on the title screen, but not Peach. Not to mention Baby Rosalina was featured in the MK8 Direct, getting heavier spotlight and focus than most other newcomers (along with Pink Gold Peach), and now Rosalina is going to be DLC in Mario Golf: World Tour (which makes her stand out compared to characters who are in the game by default).

At this point, I feel like Nintendo is building up to something with her. I want to say a Rosalina game, or at least Galaxy 3, but who knows?
Hopefully we'll see something at E3.

 

[Claire Diviner]

Okay, that video is just awesome, and makes me so hyped for MK8. I'm glad I got a Wii U, and the visuals are just so... and Toad's-freakin' Turnpike!

That aside, I don't mind Laura as her voice actress. I thought she sounded fine in SM3DW. I guess my thing is that I can get a little OCD when it comes to character reprisals. Who the hell would say Rosalina sounded like Peach anyway? Even in MK7, where her voice was the most unRosalina-like, she still sounded okay.

 

[ChikoLad]

Due to some of Rosalina's more excited cries of "WOOHOOO!" and "YEEEAH!" in MK8, some people have gotten the impression that she sounds like Peach now, since Peach would always sound that excited and high pitched in every game she is in.

And yeah, MK8 looks fantastic. It's the first time I've actually been hyped for a Mario Kart game, and I plan to pre-order it over the coming week.

 

[Claire Diviner]

Due to some of Rosalina's more excited cries of "WOOHOOO!" and "YEEEAH!" in MK8, some people have gotten the impression that she sounds like Peach now, since Peach would always sound that excited and high pitched in every game she is in.

Odd, I've always thought it sounded like a more monotone "WOOHOO", even in MK7.

And yeah, MK8 looks fantastic. It's the first time I've actually been hyped for a Mario Kart game, and I plan to pre-order it over the coming week.

Same here. I was debating whether I wanted to DL it or not, but I've decided on the physical copy. It feels more personal to me for some reason.

 

[C3CC]

I hate Rosalina's new voice...

 

[Morbi]

I don't even really notice the difference in her voice to be perfectly honest.

 

[Mario & Sonic Guy]

I think the fact that Rosalina sounds too hyperactive in Mario Kart 8 is why people have been hating her.

 

[C3CC]

I think the fact that Rosalina sounds too hyperactive in Mario Kart 8 is why people have been hating her.

It's not only because of how hyperactive she sounds, it's more because it's way out of character.

 

[ChikoLad]

It's not only because of how hyperactive she sounds, it's more because it's way out of character.

Dunno about you, but I think I'd be excitedly screaming with glee if I was riding an anti-gravity quad bike, even if my family passed away a couple of centuries ago when I was very long.

Characters can have tons of inner turmoil, but that doesn't mean they can't enjoy the moment. It's not out of character at all for her. I honestly don't get why people think her tragic back story should define her and render her unable to smile or laugh. She does both in Galaxy, and even has exclamation marks after some of her lines (such as when she first starts reading the storybook itself).

Also, I believe there was a part within the storybook itself that stated that Rosalina tries her best to keep up a happy face for the Lumas, even if she feels really sad.

Not that any of this matters in Mario Kart. Again, it would not be realistic if Rosalina DIDN'T excitedly scream and shout while driving at high speeds in quirky course.

Also, while you don't need to accept this as the truth - Miyamoto views the Mario characters as a cast of actors, to some degree. Not everything they do is legitimate, and the rivalries are just a show (or at least, the intensities of some are). I must stress that he only says he "views" the cast that way, not that we must do the same. If you really need a further point to justify Rosalina being happy and excited in Mario Kart, this makes perfect sense of it - in that she's an actress, and her role in Galaxy is her playing a part of a character. Outside of that, she could just be some hot model actress in the Mushroom Kingdom who everybody loves to see rock a motoring jumpsuit, and she's living the diva life.

The actual Miyamoto quote is:

"If you're familiar with things like Popeye and some of the old comic characters, you would oftentimes see this cast of characters that takes on different roles depending on the comic or cartoon," Miyamoto said. "They might be businessman in one [cartoon] or a pirate in another. Depending on the story that was being told, they would change roles. So, to a certain degree, I look at our characters in a similar way and feel that they can take on different roles in different games."

I personally don't view Rosalina that way, I feel she is one of the completely legitimate characters who's back story is genuine. I just attribute her excited screams as well...her being excited. There's nothing saying she can't be that. And even when she is excited, she's more reserved than the rest of the characters.

Honestly, seeing Rosalina be happy and excited adds to her character to me. My problem with the main Mario characters in the main series is that they are often one dimensional. I don't mind them being happy, but when their only emotions are "happy" and "excited", then I tend to lose interest in the characterisation in the games. Rosalina displays a wide variety of emotions and has a deep enough personality for her happy moments to be more worthwhile to me. Plus, a happy Rosalina is a heart-meltingly adorable Rosalina, and there is nothing wrong with that. And it helps me discern the things she likes.

Also, Rosalina has a very special reason to be happy today:

Spoiler

 

[Louie G.]

I came up with an awesome idea for a Rosalina spin-off.
You play as young Rosalina when she finds Baby Luma, re-enacting the storybook with gentle paint-like visuals similar to the ones in the book. I imagine it would look beautiful and have a lighthearted charm, although I wonder how the game would play. For example, what genre would it fall under? I want to say platformer but there are no bosses to fight or anything.

 

[Claire Diviner]

Dunno about you, but I think I'd be excitedly screaming with glee if I was riding an anti-gravity quad bike, even if my family passed away a couple of centuries ago when I was very long.

Characters can have tons of inner turmoil, but that doesn't mean they can't enjoy the moment. It's not out of character at all for her. I honestly don't get why people think her tragic back story should define her and render her unable to smile or laugh. She does both in Galaxy, and even has exclamation marks after some of her lines (such as when she first starts reading the storybook itself).

Also, I believe there was a part within the storybook itself that stated that Rosalina tries her best to keep up a happy face for the Lumas, even if she feels really sad.

Not that any of this matters in Mario Kart. Again, it would not be realistic if Rosalina DIDN'T excitedly scream and shout while driving at high speeds in quirky course.

Also, while you don't need to accept this as the truth - Miyamoto views the Mario characters as a cast of actors, to some degree. Not everything they do is legitimate, and the rivalries are just a show (or at least, the intensities of some are). I must stress that he only says he "views" the cast that way, not that we must do the same. If you really need a further point to justify Rosalina being happy and excited in Mario Kart, this makes perfect sense of it - in that she's an actress, and her role in Galaxy is her playing a part of a character. Outside of that, she could just be some hot model actress in the Mushroom Kingdom who everybody loves to see rock a motoring jumpsuit, and she's living the diva life.

The actual Miyamoto quote is:



I personally don't view Rosalina that way, I feel she is one of the completely legitimate characters who's back story is genuine. I just attribute her excited screams as well...her being excited. There's nothing saying she can't be that. And even when she is excited, she's more reserved than the rest of the characters.

Honestly, seeing Rosalina be happy and excited adds to her character to me. My problem with the main Mario characters in the main series is that they are often one dimensional. I don't mind them being happy, but when their only emotions are "happy" and "excited", then I tend to lose interest in the characterisation in the games. Rosalina displays a wide variety of emotions and has a deep enough personality for her happy moments to be more worthwhile to me. Plus, a happy Rosalina is a heart-meltingly adorable Rosalina, and there is nothing wrong with that. And it helps me discern the things she likes.

Also, Rosalina has a very special reason to be happy today:

Spoiler

Wow, I actually read the whole thing. I can agree with that. I personally don't care about her character in other media; I just want Mercedes Rose back. lol

 

[C3CC]

Wow, I actually read the whole thing. I can agree with that. I personally don't care about her character in other media; I just want Mercedes Rose back. lol

Yeah, his reasons are good now that I read them, but all in all I want Mercedes back too, hahahaha

 

[MechaWave]

I didn't like Laura in 3D World; she did a better job in MK8, though. However I still don't know why they removed the echo. I will always miss Mercedes and wish they would bring her back, but I'm not too upset about her new voice.

 

[Baskerville]

Her new VA doesn't really bother me all too much, I think she just needs to be a bit more mono.

 

[NintenRob]

How would you guys feel if the Koopalings were the main antagonist in a Rosalina game?

Also does anyone else love the fact that little Luma got playable while characters like Ridley, Mewtwo and K Rool are still on the chopping block.
Gotta show some respect for the little guy and I wish he was playable in Mario Kart.


I'm also interested to see what games she will do next, I can easily see her get her own team in Mario Baseball.

Maybe a team like: Rosalina, Multiple Lumas, Polari, Lubba, Honey Queen, Chimp, Star Bunny and maybe other Galaxy characters.
At the moment, I don't think I want to see her in a strikers game unless they do it really well.

What do you guys think?

 

[ChikoLad]

I wouldn't want the Koopalings as villains for a Rosalina game. They have absolutely nothing to do with Galaxy (or Rosalina), and they are pretty insignificant in general. Bowser, or an original villain. Or even some other Mario villain. I think Dimentio from Super Paper Mario would make a perfect candidate for a Rosalina enemy (he was a really good villain period, and he warps dimensions, so it ties in with Rosalina's association with space).

I would want to see her in a Mario Strikers game, because Next Level Games do an excellent job with characterisation, in the Strikers games and in Luigi's Mansion 2. I'd love to see how they would handle Rosalina. Heck, maybe they should make Rosalina's game if she gets one.

 

[Mario & Sonic Guy]

Mario Strikers is a no-no for Rosalina. Baseball would work perfectly though, as her team could be composed of some different colored generic Lumas (yellow, red, blue, green, apricot, orange), Polari, and Lubba.

 

[Jason the Yoshi]

Mario Strikers is a no-no for Rosalina. Baseball would work perfectly though, as her team could be composed of some different colored generic Lumas (yellow, red, blue, green, apricot, orange), Polari, and Lubba.

HEY!!! Why can't Rosalina be in Mario Strikers?

 

[Mario & Sonic Guy]

HEY!!! Why can't Rosalina be in Mario Strikers?

It doesn't really work well for her, especially when she isn't the type of person who shows aggressive behavior.

 

[Jason the Yoshi]

I'm just waiting for Rosalina and Rouge to appear as playable in the next Mario and Sonic at the Olympic Games title as playable

 

[ChikoLad]

It doesn't really work well for her, especially when she isn't the type of person who shows aggressive behavior.

"IS MAMA GONNA HAVE TO SMACK A *****!?"

Really though, she wouldn't HAVE to be aggressive in Mario Strikers. She is the strong, silent type after all. She'd work perfectly in Mario Strikers, especially if she can work in Smash.

Also, Rosalina has really long legs, she's the most fitting female character. She'd also fit perfectly in Mario Hoops because of that.

 

[Baskerville]

I've always liked the idea of a Striker Rosa.

And no, I didn't do this. Found it on /v/ a few months ago.

 

[M23-X0]

I wouldn't want the Koopalings as villains for a Rosalina game. They have absolutely nothing to do with Galaxy (or Rosalina), and they are pretty insignificant in general. Bowser, or an original villain. Or even some other Mario villain. I think Dimentio from Super Paper Mario would make a perfect candidate for a Rosalina enemy (he was a really good villain period, and he warps dimensions, so it ties in with Rosalina's association with space).

I would want to see her in a Mario Strikers game, because Next Level Games do an excellent job with characterisation, in the Strikers games and in Luigi's Mansion 2. I'd love to see how they would handle Rosalina. Heck, maybe they should make Rosalina's game if she gets one.

If a Rosalina game we have, the character we need to see is Geno. I remember he was a warrior from the Star Road, and sent to help Mario by "a higher authority". It would be easy to make Rosalina this "higher authority".
And I did so a small number of artworks involving Rosalina and Geno. http://www.mariowiki.com/geno

 

[NintenRob]

No geno thanks, I don't want to see another upsurge of requests for a very insignificant character.

The reason I suggested the Koopalings was Ludwig, I think he would make an excellent antagonist when fully fleshed out.

While I don't want Rosalina in strikers unless done really really well, can you imagine Luma in a strikers outfit? That would be the best thing ever.

 

[ChikoLad]

Geno is never appearing in another Mario game, unless Square Enix decide to team up with Nintendo. Square Enix own Geno.

 

[Claire Diviner]

If they convinced Square Enix to bring Geno into Mario & Luigi: Superstar Saga (though only as a cameo), anything is possible, albeit unlikely.

 

[ChikoLad]

If they convinced Square Enix to bring Geno into Mario & Luigi: Superstar Saga (though only as a cameo), anything is possible, albeit unlikely.

A cameo is different, you technically would not even need the rights for it. It can be passed off as parody, and under the Fair Use Law, copyrighted material doesn't require any actual rights to be used if it's for parody purposes (as well as certain other purposes), and might only require the copyright holders be credited if anything. For example, Nintendo had an image of Sonic's shoes lying in a garbage can in DKC2 - this was while Nintendo and Sega were still at each other's throats. They are blatantly the exact same shoes, but since they're there for parody purposes, Nintendo would not need Sega's permission to include the shoes in the game.

 

[Jason the Yoshi]

Geno is never appearing in another Mario game, unless Square Enix decide to team up with Nintendo. Square Enix own Geno.

This is just my personal opinion, but I think it's better that Square Enix remains third party. They don't really have as much of a good relationship with Nintendo as of late like some other companies I know. However, if it actually is possible for Square Enix to sell Geno to Nintendo, I'd actually like to know, because people talk about Geno in smash a lot these days.

 

[AceZTeller]

It doesn't really work well for her, especially when she isn't the type of person who shows aggressive behavior.

Neither does Peach, but it's not so hard to see that aggressive side now, especially since she's been in 3 Smash games and 2 Striker Games.

 

[Mario & Sonic Guy]

Neither does Peach, but it's not so hard to see that aggressive side now, especially since she's been in 3 Smash games and 2 Striker Games.

Peach did show her angry side in Super Princess Peach, which can often be associated with aggressiveness, but not once has Rosalina shown any signs of anger in her game appearances.

This could possibly mean that Rosalina has way more control over her anger than most other Mario Universe characters; at worst, she may show some disappointment, but in a sad manner, instead of an angry manner.

 

[Jason the Yoshi]

Peach did show her angry side in Super Princess Peach, which can often be associated with aggressiveness, but not once has Rosalina shown any signs of anger in her game appearances.

This could possibly mean that Rosalina has way more control over her anger than most other Mario Universe characters.

What about Daisy? She doesn't have an aggressive side... Does she?

 

[NintenRob]

Daisy is usually portrayed as a tom boy and Peach also showed a bit of an angry side in Sunshine. Look at how annoyed she is when you rescue her from Shadow Mario.

Rosalina could work but they would need to keep the aggressiveness out there. Although I think it would be funny if in one scene in a game, Waluigi tries to hit on her and she uses her magic to give him a wedgie. My headcanon is that Waluigi has a giant crush on Rosalina and is quite stalkerish towards her while Rosalina will often remind him that she is capable of

I wouldn't mind seeing a slightly more aggressive side of Rosalina (only slightly), She can still be mother like and caring to most but she certainly doesn't come across as someone who would take any nonsense from a perv (headcanon) like Waluigi.

So thoughts on Rosalina giving Waluigi a deserved wedgie?

Also I still would love to see Luma in strikers, just imagine them in their little strikers suit with an angry expression on its face. SO ADORABLE.

 

[MechaWave]

It doesn't really work well for her, especially when she isn't the type of person who shows aggressive behavior.

Although Mario Strikers is pretty aggressive in terms of character, Peach is also seen as sweet but she's brutal in that game. As for Rosalina, she doesn't have to be aggressive in a new Strikers game, but she couldn't exactly be as motherly as usual. I wouldn't have a problem with it.

I can also see Rosalina having her own team in baseball or even in Strikers. Luma is perfect for that role.