Hahaha, some of your facts are wrong, as we rarely do our so-called visits often. At the most, we'd be doing one every month or so. I'm sure that a lot of Palutena people here like AeroLink had a fun time, but of course we can't please everyone, such as select individuals here. I personally don't like your use of the word "violence" to describe our actions. We have no intentions of bringing harm to anybody, and just want to have some fun, but considering it violence that fuels the fire is relatively inappropriate to describe this, no anger is really attempted to be made either. Trouble? Sure, there's trouble, but that's when everyone feels the need to interact.
I definitely agree with you on your last sentence that a community should be accepting. I'm sure you don't mean to sound this way, but your opinion does not equate to the community's opinion either. I can say the same thing back at you that some people don't find this humour disgusting but rather enlightening, but to each of their own. I do take back my previous statements on calling out some people here dense, because the intention was to relieve the seriousness and have more openness around here. The effectiveness of this visit is up to the person themselves.
We build our community through fun and social interactions. You build your community your way. We just want to come visit to get to know more people and get some entertainment out of it, not force you to do things our way. Come visit if you want and see if it floats your boat, we are very open to new people.
If you plan a raid, be sure to do it right though. Our place is worse than lunatic mode bullet hell. :^)
And that's the crux of the issue here. Neither of us represents the will of the community, and neither of us is a transcendent moral authority. We're just people speaking out minds, and it's okay to disagree in that respect.
I never cited what I said as facts, merely observations. I have noticed you conducting raids before, and this is not a new opinion on my part. I have always found them trivial and distasteful. I am in no way telling you that your behaviour is morally wrong, though, merely expressing my distaste at your actions. As I say, it's like breaking and entering your friend's house and smearing jam on their walls. If it happened to me, I'd be a bit miffed that there is now jam and flies on my walls, but I wouldn't actively hunt down that friend and nail them to a cross for their actions, either. You can't control what other people will do and I personally wouldn't want to. I'd certainly hope that they meant nothing by it and still consider them a friend irrespective of what they did and why they did it.
Like I said, I'm not telling you to stop or that it's wrong. But this is an open forum and free expression is encouraged. Ergo, my right to express my opinion pertaining to your habitual raids is perfectly justified, as is your right to come in and raid us in the first place. This is not a dictatorship and I will not censor your right to do whatever the hell you please, so long as it doesn't harm others and doesn't break the site's rules.
I should further clarify that my remark pertaining to violence was not directed at you or anybody in particular, but merely at the general sense of tension that existed previously in this thread. Insulting people is never justified and insulting somebody right back is just as abhorrent and morally reprehensible. I can respect that you're at least willing to be open-minded and friendly about it, and I apologise in kind if I seemed to be getting on my high horse about the whole thing. There's only so much piss and vinegar one can take before they have to let it all out, though, and I should like to think that the latter half of my original message - to wit: I will not censor your opinion - is duly considered as the sharpened edge of my bladed tongue.
All I'm saying is, I don't think it's very nice to come in and start making fun of somebody's favourite character like that. I know it was meant in jest and no ill will was intended, but if I have learned anything in this respect, it's that misunderstandings are very easy to occur when tensions are high and nobody wants to be the first one to blink. I've burned many bridges in the past by being too stubborn and thin-skinned with others, so if I offended you with my statement, I'm really and truly sorry and I hope we can still be friends at the end of the day. :3
This paragraph sure explains a lot. For one, I was merely pointing out what any adult with a straight head would see as common sense. Second, who said I was siding with Palutena mains on this? Again, just pointing out what should be be obvious from a neutral position. Now the rest of your little rant is a nice story I'll be sure to share with my friends and have a laugh over as I return to my day.
Fuujin asked me once about it and now I wanted to see what other actual Palu players thoughT.