Mini Mafia

[Circus]

Circus, what is the first word that popped into your head when Sang posted 994?

"Posturing."

Circus, what do you think of J's opening question?

This one?

Both of ya'll, tell me how you plan on approaching this game?

I think it's pretty pointless. It's obviously a really vague question to begin with, and I'm sure J didn't actually expect much more interesting answers than the ones he got from us since he knows you personally and I had already told him before the game started that I hardly even know how these games go down. But you gotta start conversation somehow. Null.

At the moment, there's no definitive answer as to why you should trust him over me. I have not posted all that much (once or twice) and you and him have made an entire conversation. Your conversation was... interesting but, at the moment, it's null and doesn't give me all that much as most of it is all based upon theories and speculations.

So the conversation between J and I doesn't make you wanna lean one way or another on either of us yet? Not even a little?

Sang, is it more important to you to be able to trust, or to be trusted?

J, are you leaning one way or another yet? If yes, you don't have to say which way if you don't want to, but I'd like to know. I think I'm already starting to get some strong vibes, but that's me.

 

[vanderzant]

/out Reincarnation Mafia sorry. Don't have time atm

 

[Ramen King]

/out Reincarnation Mafia sorry. Don't have time atm

http://www.nooooooooooooooo.com/

 

[#HBC | J]

"Posturing."

J, are you leaning one way or another yet? If yes, you don't have to say which way if you don't want to, but I'd like to know. I think I'm already starting to get some strong vibes, but that's me.

I got something along those lines. I got "cautious".

I'm not really leaning a specific way yet and I'm kind of curious as to how you already feel that you may have strong vibes on something with only like 15 posts in the game.

 

[SangfroidWarrior]

So the conversation between J and I doesn't make you wanna lean one way or another on either of us yet? Not even a little?

Now, nobody asked me about that. Yes, it gives me a vague idea but it's not much to go off of and it's not enough to actually make me all that suspicious.

Sang, is it more important to you to be able to trust, or to be trusted?

It all depends on what you're referring to. In this game, right now, it's more about me being able to trust. I need to be able to know who to trust before I can go about making either of you trust me, because trusting me doesn't matter if you're scum and I choose wrong. Then comes making the person I think is town trust me enough to know that I'm not the person that needs lynching, or at least to listen to me if I try to make an argument. Now, if you're referring to a normal game that's a different story.

 

[Circus]

I got something along those lines. I got "cautious".

I'm not really leaning a specific way yet and I'm kind of curious as to how you already feel that you may have strong vibes on something with only like 15 posts in the game.

'Cause that's how I roll, baby. Tunneltunneltunnel and such.

But actually, I think fence sitting for too long is going to be bad this game. With no flips or claims to go off of, it will be very easy to just keep doubting your reads and rethinking things until every avenue looks just as inviting as any other. So instead of humming and hawing in the middle, I suspect I'll go back and forth between which one of you I think is "definitely" scum.

Now, nobody asked me about that. Yes, it gives me a vague idea but it's not much to go off of and it's not enough to actually make me all that suspicious.

Okay. Care to either share what that vague idea is or do something to help make it clearer?

It all depends on what you're referring to. In this game, right now, it's more about me being able to trust. I need to be able to know who to trust before I can go about making either of you trust me, because trusting me doesn't matter if you're scum and I choose wrong. Then comes making the person I think is town trust me enough to know that I'm not the person that needs lynching, or at least to listen to me if I try to make an argument. Now, if you're referring to a normal game that's a different story.

That's the right answer. So what are you doing to figure out who to trust?

 

[#HBC | J]

Definitely going to be using HG gifs much more for this game. Circus, you're so cool haha.

I actually agree to your process of why you would spread your time of tunneling on each slot to try and get a better feel for determining alignment.

Sang, question. Who do you like more atm, Circus or J. Like let's say deadline is going to be RIGHT after your next post, who dies atm? I know you hate these questions that make you have to decide but that's kind of why I am asking this one. =P

Circus, I'm getting mixed vibes. To me it seems like you dislike some of Sang's post but like her logic. Can you clarify what you are feeling towards her at the current time?

 

[SangfroidWarrior]

Sorry for my inactivity. Been studying for finals (had three in a row, two of which are in my hardest classes).

Anyways...

Okay. Care to either share what that vague idea is or do something to help make it clearer?

It gives me a vague idea to ya'll's alignment. I'll get to that when I answer J.

Sang, question. Who do you like more atm, Circus or J. Like let's say deadline is going to be RIGHT after your next post, who dies atm? I know you hate these questions that make you have to decide but that's kind of why I am asking this one. =P

At the moment, I like Circus more. It's a difficult choice, and it's very slight, but some of your posts have given me odd vibes. I'm not really sure exactly what it is but something feels... off. I like how Circus is asking questions and trying get reads on us (even though most of it is just based upon theory discussion).

 

[Circus]

Oh, right, this game.

Circus, I'm getting mixed vibes. To me it seems like you dislike some of Sang's post but like her logic. Can you clarify what you are feeling towards her at the current time?

You may be getting mixed vibes because my opinion of her started to swing with her 1005.

What are your thoughts so far?

/outofit

 

[#HBC | J]

My thoughts on Sang are not fully there, but I am not getting like obv-town vibes on her, I am actually getting more like "...well that's weird" vibes from her. Especially with her most recent post where she says that you get more town points for gauging the both of us when, no offense, I feel I have been doing just as much as yourself in that department if not a bit more. She just uses the teenciest bit of doubt of saying "there is something odd but I don't know what." without substantiating what exactly makes me weird to her.

@Sang: If I were to vote you in my next post based on what I had listed above, what would you do?

 

[#HBC | J]

*side-note*

I read that "/outofit" as /brofist at first and I was like "/brofist back" but then was upset.

On a related note, I just re-read her 1005 that you pointed out. You gauge her to not be vague and to point out things clearer on what she is feeling but in her next post where she is responding to you, she continues to be vague and not really give a concrete stance on things. What does that do for you since I kind of pointed this out in my previous post?

 

[SangfroidWarrior]

Especially with her most recent post where she says that you get more town points for gauging the both of us when, no offense, I feel I have been doing just as much as yourself in that department if not a bit more. She just uses the teenciest bit of doubt of saying "there is something odd but I don't know what." without substantiating what exactly makes me weird to her.

It's because his questions give cause for more discussion than your's do and because his just stick out to me more whereas your's seem just there. And, the thing about the feeling is that I don't exactly know what is giving me the odd vibe. Maybe it's that they seem a bit superficial... no, maybe not superficial. Maybe a little faked/forced.

@Sang: If I were to vote you in my next post based on what I had listed above, what would you do?

I would ask you to explain what has been weird about my posts and ask you to explain why having a shaky read on someone so early in this game is bad, when you got on Circus for having a strong read.

 

[#HBC | J]

Can you highlight the differences between mine and Circus' posts and how his generate more discussion than mine does?

Also I do not get where you getting this superficial/fake/forced vibe so can you explain that one to me? Another question, you seem to think there is a similiarity to discussing a strong read and a shaky read? Which is worse to have in your mind?

Circus no love us. ;_;

 

[SangfroidWarrior]

Can you highlight the differences between mine and Circus' posts and how his generate more discussion than mine does?

His first question, for instance, gave way for a decent amount of discussion, a few posts long. Going back to re-read, I do admit that some of your questions generate good discussion, but not to the extent that Circus's first question did.

Also I do not get where you getting this superficial/fake/forced vibe so can you explain that one to me? Another question, you seem to think there is a similiarity to discussing a strong read and a shaky read? Which is worse to have in your mind?

No, I can't really describe it. It was hard trying to figure out what gave me weird feelings about your posts in the first place. Maybe it's because you don't seem to be reading into things like I expect you to. Regardless, I give up trying to explain the feelings. If I do get more information or insight, I will get back to you. As per your other question, neither is worse as long as you keep an open mind with your strong read. Unless you know, for a fact, that that person is scum, there should always be a bit of doubt so that you don't lynch/trust the wrong person. Of course, this coming from me, a person that rarely ever has strong reads in her life. A shaky read, at least, gives you a place to focus your efforts in order to get a stronger read or to make you rethink your previous read.

In your opinion, which is worse? Explain what you mean by "you seem to think there is a similarity to discussing a strong read and a shaky read". I didn't know there was a difference because, regardless of how strong they are, both are reads and are not to be taken lightly.

Circus, what's your opinion on the back and forth between me and J, if you have any to give?

Is there any sort of deadline to this, or are we just scrounging around until we decide it's the right time?

 

[#HBC | J]

What am I not reading into Sang? I have been asking questions and delving into things based on the questions I asked and trying to move the game forward more than it has been moving at its glacial pace haha.

So Sang, to you, Generate good questions = Towny? But in a game like this, couldn't anyone just do that and get town points in your book?

There are different shades of grey to which is worse tbh. Shooting off a shaky read is not the best way to go about things because it is haphazard and just not good in this scenario. However, gaining a strong read based off of very little isn't very good either because it doesn't hold much weight at all. I don't get why you feel that shaky = strong because that isn't the case and are both different things.

There is also no deadline in this game at all so in the end, yuuuup we just scrounge around until a majority is reached on one of the players.

Sang, talk to me on Circus' not really being here. Does it do anything for you in terms of reading him?

 

[SangfroidWarrior]

What am I not reading into Sang? I have been asking questions and delving into things based on the questions I asked and trying to move the game forward more than it has been moving at its glacial pace haha.

Again, I'm really not sure. The more you ask me to explain it, the fewer answers I have for you.

So Sang, to you, Generate good questions = Towny? But in a game like this, couldn't anyone just do that and get town points in your book?

Not exactly. It's the type of questions, and also the way they ask the question and how the other person responds to them.

There are different shades of grey to which is worse tbh. Shooting off a shaky read is not the best way to go about things because it is haphazard and just not good in this scenario.

Alright, first of all, because I feel like this little tidbit is directed at me, I must clarify something. You were the one to ask me who would die if it were the end of the day. Refer back to your 1007. Also, refer to Circus's 1006. Both of you asked me to clarify my read. Had I not been asked, I would not have explained so that I could have further developed my reads without interference. Also, I would not have simply said "I like Circus better" or "I like J better" because that's not really how I roll and I like having my thought process (or most of it, at least) out for others to read. Moving on, as I do, actually, agree to this.

However, gaining a strong read based off of very little isn't very good either because it doesn't hold much weight at all. I don't get why you feel that shaky = strong because that isn't the case and are both different things.

Agreed. Saying you have a strong read on someone for something weak, like meta or a gut feeling, is not good. But, having a shaky read that is based off of very little is cause for a person to go investigating their read in order to get more information so that they can have a better read with a stronger basis. I never said that shaky = strong. I said that neither should be taken lightly and that a shaky read can lead to a stronger read.

There is also no deadline in this game at all so in the end, yuuuup we just scrounge around until a majority is reached on one of the players.

Greeeaaattt.

Sang, talk to me on Circus' not really being here. Does it do anything for you in terms of reading him?

It doesn't really give me much on him besides that he keeps forgetting about this game, or just doesn't care. It is making this game a bit more difficult because there's only so much I can get from you. Other than that, it's null.

 

[Circus]

Sang, talk to me on Circus' not really being here. Does it do anything for you in terms of reading him?

Objection! Leading the witness!

"Circus not really being here?" What? It's only been two days since my last post (admittedly a long time for a normal mafia game, but this is not one of those). More than three days passed between your 1007 and your 1010. Not only is this hypocritical, but you also seem to be implying that my absence (if you can even call it that) is cause for concern. The fact of the matter is that none of us have been giving this thread the kind of attention we probably would if it were a regular game, but you're tacitly trying to assign a certain amount of suspicion to me for something all of us have done. Dislike, J.

Circus, what's your opinion on the back and forth between me and J, if you have any to give?

My opinion is that J is scum.

Thoughts on that, J?

 

[#HBC | J]

Wow....Sang's town....o_o like her 1016 is like exuding towniness and doesn't really have anything scummy.

Plus Circus' jump on me looks forced/reaching for a reason to call me scum with "leading the witness" which is stretching what actually happened.

My thoughts on it Circus, is that if Sang is town, you are scum. That means what you are saying is just "lalalala" to me. xD

 

[#HBC | J]

This game man....okay are either of you two going to come in here or is it just going to be me by myself trying to figure out which shadow of Circus/Sang is scum. =[

 

[Ramen King]

Rue, town ninja, has been Spear Killed!​

Day continues!

 

[#HBC | J]

;_______;

You did not....just do that.....

you have no soul.

 

[SangfroidWarrior]

Circus, any other thoughts? Could you explain where you obtained that scum read on J from? ...besides the leading the witness thing...

J, I'm really not sure what you're expecting me to do with hardly anything I can respond to/ask questions about. What do you think of Circus's sudden scum read on you?

For Rue:

 

[#HBC | J]

You seem to have suspicion on me but you aren't doing anything to push me ooooor try and determine my alignment really so there are those questions, Sang.

W.r.t. Circus, his reason for calling me auto-scum due to "leading the witness" is weak and is reaching for a reason to call me scum imo. What do you make of it? Do you agree to his logic or do you feel he is reaching?

 

[SangfroidWarrior]

You seem to have suspicion on me but you aren't doing anything to push me ooooor try and determine my alignment really so there are those questions, Sang.

That back and forth gave me enough to think about for now and, now, I want to try to get a read on Circus. I'm just surprised that the only response to my 1016 was "wow, she's town."

W.r.t. Circus, his reason for calling me auto-scum due to "leading the witness" is weak and is reaching for a reason to call me scum imo. What do you make of it? Do you agree to his logic or do you feel he is reaching?

I think that it could possibly be just him pushing you to get your reaction. His 1006 points towards that direction. But, if he's serious about this, I can understand where he is coming from (we all, even you, did have some issues with activity in this game), though I don't think it's enough to call you scum from. So, I agree with his logic to an extent, but, if that's the only reason he thinks you're scum then, yes, that's reaching.

 

[#HBC | J]

I wanna shoot you Sang because you are being so cautious that it is driving me up a wall haha. What more did you want from me w.r.t. 1016? ;P

Sang, if I were to do this:

[v]Shoot: Circus[/b]

What would your reaction be?

 

[Ramen King]

Vote Count:

J (0):
Sang (0):
Circus (0):

 

[Circus]

Sang, I kind of want to lynch J. How do you feel?

I don't know what you need to get a read on me, but I've got a read on you. I don't like how safe you are, but I know you tend to that as town tregardless. J is making me nervous. I don't like him flipping on you in such a drastic way. He basically decided you were town, then decided that he was feeling scared of you because youre cautious (not a scumtell for you as far as meta goes, from what I know) and he basically makes it obvious he wants to shoot me on nothing.

I think he's trying to appeal to you because he thinks you're more likely to fall for it than I am. He comes off as scummier to me than you are and I'm ready to cinch this game.

 

[#HBC | J]

I'm not flip-flopping on my read on Sang at all, I still believe she is town/townier than you. I just wanna shoot her because regardless of whatever is going on, getting concrete things is like pulling teeth sometimes haha.

Talk about appealing to Sang because that's all your really doing for my lynch atm.

 

[#HBC | J]

Omg, Sang is going to be so upset. The fate of the game rests in her hands between me and Circus. She hates things like this in games.

Welp decision is hers it seems. ;P

 

[Circus]

You still want to shoot her?

But you just mock-shot me.

 

[#HBC | J]

Reaction to get out of Sang, but the mod messed it up.

Plus I didn't even use the right command. It's Daykill, not Shoot haha.

*re-read my post*

Woooooow okay really bad wording. I meant like shoot her in the figure of speech way. Change that to "hit her over the head" instead. xD

 

[Circus]

Man, I'm Peeta and you're Cato.

SANG, BE MY KATNISS. PUT AN ARROW THROUGH THIS DUDE'S HAND.

 

[#HBC | J]

Bologna! I've anyone is it, I'm Peeta. I've been using gifs with him. >=[

 

[#HBC | J]

Sang still is Katniss regardless haha.

 

[Circus]

Sang still is Katniss regardless haha.

Then I know you're scum.

Sang, do the right thing. Be the heroine.

J, let's do this.

Vote: J

 

[#HBC | J]

Vote: Circus

By all means, haha. Fun game regardless what happens and glad I did it.

*Also if you really were Peeta, you would have used a gif with him over Katniss. xD*

 

[#HBC | marshy]

dies in crossfire

 

[Ramen King]

Vote Count:

J (1): Circus
Sang (0):
Circus (1): J

 

[ranmaru]

Splashes Marshy with warm water

 

[Circus]

I'm signalling to my district pal, Katniss, is all.

Sang's gonna put an arrow in your heart.