Mini Mafia Game Thread | Newbies are welcome! | Town wins Gheb's game | Zen next to host!

[Shun Goku Satsu Rake]

nah, i'm actually very critical of my on play and constantly take notes both during and after the game on what i should change or fix or whatever that would make myself better. I'm even more critical than most other people are of me.

 

[Shun Goku Satsu Rake]

I'm acutely aware of many of my flaws and that's why I keep playing. even if i never learn how to play perfectly, i can try my best to come close and thats the best i can do. *shrug

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

Gorf, how does his mindset make sense as a town PR. "Imma hold back all my feels and hide because i'm scared scum'll go "wow dat pr". No man. if he was this powerful pr there's no reason he couldn't play the same way he did as a townie the other time, especially if he can self freaking doc. Not buying it one bit man

He. Is. The. Powerful. PR. There's. No. Disputing. That. In. A. GOD. DAMN. OPEN. SETUP.

Maybe, here's a thought, HE MIGHT NOT HAVE WANTED TO WASTE THE SELF DOC ON HIMSELF UNTIL A CLAIM WAS NECESSARY? Wow what a thought!

The bolded is actually a GREAT way to play a PR. He wants to be somebody that scum doesn't even think about pursuing as an NK. And how do you do that? Being passive. Being actively obvtown makes for an obvtown read later in game, which scum doesn't want lying around -.-

 

[Orboknown]

Except he can self doc so he would want to draw the damn NK

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

nah, i'm actually very critical of my on play and constantly take notes both during and after the game on what i should change or fix or whatever that would make myself better. I'm even more critical than most other people are of me.

Here's a note.

Get your head out of your ass. Stop being so confident when you have no reason to be. Don't bait reactions by being a total ******, it makes the whole reaction thing crumble and all reads gained from it inherently null.

 

[Orboknown]

Trg>zord>gheb>rake>>>dietz
Scum->town

 

[Orboknown]

As much as i.love playstyle analysis and criticism and theory., can we get back to.playing mafia and lynching scum?

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

Oh I'm scum now YES!

 

[Shun Goku Satsu Rake]

I dont always bait reactions, in fact, usually i do it to only two types of players: Extremely new ones, or extremely seasoned ones. In both cases, you can have an idea of what to expect largely, how it differ's etc. For example, in GS34, i pushed scary to the breaking point to see what he'd do, and he ended up not only town telling, but enabling me to get a scum read on swords/kuzi and raz/laundry. Unfortunately i chose to kill marhsy but town had my back and we won in two days.

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

Your reaction bait yielded inconclusive results. Congratulations.

So yea let's play the game. After I stop the TRG lynch where are we gonna go?

 

[Orboknown]

We could just hop.off trg and lynch zord.l

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

Oh yea that's right cuz I'm scum I forgot.

 

[The Real Gamer]

I'm acutely aware of many of my flaws and that's why I keep playing. even if i never learn how to play perfectly, i can try my best to come close and thats the best i can do. *shrug

Well if I have any say stop playing like your scum reads are unquestionably right cause that's what threw me off my game in the first place. I work hard to try to stay on the same page as everyone and value cooperation over almost everything but unlike Orbo you were showing absolutely 0 willingness to even entertain the idea that you might be wrong. It was just "TRG IS SCUM AND YOU'RE GONNA DEAL WITH IT." Even going as far as claiming to quit mafia for good if your read on me was false. I might as well have been arguing with a brick wall. How was I not supposed to be angry with that kind of play? Especially when I knew how wrong you were the whole time?

 

[The Real Gamer]

What's the plan? Am I still self hammering or what?

 

[Orboknown]

No you arent cuz im actually leaning towards lynching zird first as they can be mafia and it opens control of the lynch to town in general

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

Rake, your play is discouraging. Regardless if you're right or wrong (which doesn't matter cuz how you got there is what's important to look at) THAT'S a fault in your play. I may play like an ass at times but I am 100% fair from the start up. I call play as I see play, and I don't just take a shiz on players just because. Your play is part of the reason why I left this site over a year ago in the first place, because there was this freakin avalanche of players just coming in playing THIS EXACT SAME WAY. Players like Dietz. Players like Bardull. The Ryker meatriders, if you will. They discourage people from ever wanting to play the game again, and if you take that as "welp it's their fault" then, well, I mean you like classical music so at least you're a cool dude in that respect.

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

What's the plan? Am I still self hammering or what?

Yea go ahead and self hammer, we'll come back and lynch me toMorrow if we think I'm scum.

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

Oh wait no we won't cuz the lyncher would still be alive and that would be stupid.

 

[Orboknown]

Unvote vote Zord

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

Ahh come on that's funny he keeps asking and you keep getting mad every time I tell him to go ahead n do it

 

[Orboknown]

I'm not mad though haha

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

Oh so you're baiting my reaction? Cuz I'm sure you're not actually scum reading me off of any of this.

 

[Orboknown]

The scumread is not based on you telling trg to hammer himself no

 

[Orboknown]

Im going to sleep now. Mafia in the morning

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

Oh okay cool just making sure.

 

[~ Gheb ~]

Unvote Vote Rake

Based on my first skim. More thorough insight coming.

 

[~ Gheb ~]

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In your opinion is Rake acting opportunistic more likely to come from town mindset or scum mindset?

Opportunism and town mindset are contradictory 90% of the time. Definitely reading it as scummy, not sure why you'd even ask though. I think I've made it pretty clear that Rake's high up on my scum list. I just wasn't sure whether he's lyncher or mafia but was leaning towards the latter because tunneling a player isn't what I'd expect the lyncher to do.

Mafia wants lyncher gone before town does. If mafzen scumreads rake then he will push for an indy lynch. If rake flips lyncher i think zen hits up a lot on my scumlist and you dive

1.) I don't agree that mafia wants lyncher gone before town does. The longer the lyncher sticks around the harder it will be for town to decide on a lynch without having to worry about losing the game to the lyncher. Lyncher hunting might not be that effective to do but I don't disagree with the statement behind it and would like you to explain why you think differently.

2.) You're giving Zen's reads way too much credit, dude. But if Rake actually flipped lyncher it wouldn't tell you anything about Zen's alignment because town and mafia both wants the lyncher dead asap.

It's exactly what dietz said, and what gheb is agreeing with [...]

Except I've made it pretty clear that I'm not sure whether I can agree with it or not. I just said that I believe Dietz' read on TRG to be genuine and that I think I understand what he's trying to say. Nothing more, nothing less:

[...]I'm not even sure if I can agree with his case and how he concludes you are scum from it but I'm 100% sure he's genuine. Whether that makes him necessarily town is a different question though - in my opinion, it doesn't.

 

[~ Gheb ~]

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I need to.go through ghebs posts again but the only thing that seems off to me is that last game he read me as scum where im town here without doing much different

It's called "learning from one's mistakes" - a foreign concept to dGames, apparently *smh*

Unfortunately your support is rusty Gheb, [...]

What's up with this slanderous talk about me supporting cases of Rake [and Dietz]? I'm the first to agree with you that Rake needs to die and his opportunistic behavior towards TRG is one of the main reason why I want him dead to begin with. I'm doing the complete opposite of supporting him. Even the fact that we voted the same player at that time doesn't change that fact.

his ultimatum in his last post is grody as well.

No it's not. Not when you're being scummy as ****.

I also don't actually think he was proposing an ultimatum. That's just you trying to throw dirt at him imo.

 

[~ Gheb ~]

Trg>zord>gheb>rake>>>dietz
Scum->town

What are you on, man? How can Dietz be the towniest slot to you when he hasn't done **** yet? Rake town?!?
The TRG wagon is ass. The two strongest supporters of his lynch are either scummy as hell [Rake] or have been complete non-factors to this game so far [Dietz]. Me, I'm not even sure whether I have more issues with TRG than with Dietz right now and your push against him has for all intents and purposes only been there to pressure him some.

Rake > Dietz / TRG > Zen > Orbo from most to least scummy.

 

[Orboknown]

Gheb zen and trg flipping places would have been due to my feels that trg isn't mafia.
Dietz I can read pretty solidly and i feel comfortable that he is town. Rake flew up a lot based on last nights posting. I don't think scumrake caters to me by gearing our thought processes to be so similar especially in live time posting

 

[~ Gheb ~]

You understand though that kind of reasoning literally doesn't mean **** to me - or anybody except yourself for that matter?

 

[Orboknown]

Okay. It's not on me to prove why you shouldn't lynch him no more than it's on zord to.prove why we shouldn't lynch trg.

 

[Orboknown]

Talk to me about Zen though,what's giving you those townie feels

 

[~ Gheb ~]

Don't see the need to answer that question right now.

 

[Orboknown]

I was expecting that tbh. *shrug*

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

Unvote Vote Rake

All aboard the rake train motha ****as

 

[Orboknown]

Thats 3 rake votes iirc.
Rake is at L1

 

[~ Gheb ~]

TRG, Zen and I are voting him? Very much OK with this constellation though it means that either Dietz or Orbo need to be convinced to drop the hammer.

 

[Orboknown]

TRG, Zen and I are voting him?

I believe that is the case.

 

[Xatres]

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Votecount:

[3] Anomandaris_Rake | Voted by: TRG, Gheb, Zord
[1] The Real Gamer | Voted by: Rake
[1] Zord | Voted by: Orbo

[0] Gheb_01
[0] Jdietz43
[0] Orboknown


Not Voting - Jdietz
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With 6 alive, it takes 4 to lynch!

Deadline: The last minute of Thursday, December 26th