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[JeXs]

@ Shun Goku Satsu Rake
Explain why you are scum reading me. Don't tell me you agree with Gorf's case because that was only just posted. I want your OWN reasons. Don't parrot Gorf.

 

[Dabuz]

Unvote

This is just a placeholder until I read Gorf's case (?)

 

[Xatres]

Rake is Rake, this is true. But that doesn't mean you should just give him a pass. That'd be like giving me a pass for always talking about mechanics, because, "Lol, Xatres always gets distracted by mechanics." I'd do that as scum or town, who cares.

The truth is, though, that Rake doesn't rapid fire post nearly that much when he's town, especially when under pressure. Rake DESPISES

 

[JeXs]

Rake is Rake, this is true. But that doesn't mean you should just give him a pass. That'd be like giving me a pass for always talking about mechanics, because, "Lol, Xatres always gets distracted by mechanics." I'd do that as scum or town, who cares.

The truth is, though, that Rake doesn't rapid fire post nearly that much when he's town, especially when under pressure. Rake DESPISES

Please complete your post lol

 

[Xatres]

Aaaand somehow I managed to type something that made my reply post without even a preview....

ANYWAYS

Rake DESPISES pressure as scum. The last mini I played with him we were partners, and he freaking folded under pressure. And like I've said, he also runs into hyper-Rake mode under pressure and posts a ton with lots and lots of "omg I hate you guys and this game" when about to be lynched. But that's only a part of what makes him scummy.

The other half is this: I can almost always pick out some town intent to Rake's craziness in a game. He's actually fairly deliberate in when he pushes a baseless read just for the reactions, and he's usually coy when pressed about it. Town Rake handles pressure much better than scum-Rake. He keeps his cool and eventually you can see what his objective was, even if his read turns out to be wrong. In this case, I don't see either of those. He's not being coy, he's being defensive and accusatory. He's not keeping his cool, he's getting panicked and diverting attention from himself.

All that, combined with what I think are pretty bad reads, leaves Rake firmly at the top of my scumlist.

 

[JeXs]

Aaaand somehow I managed to type something that made my reply post without even a preview....

ANYWAYS

Rake DESPISES pressure as scum. The last mini I played with him we were partners, and he freaking folded under pressure. And like I've said, he also runs into hyper-Rake mode under pressure and posts a ton with lots and lots of "omg I hate you guys and this game" when about to be lynched. But that's only a part of what makes him scummy.

The other half is this: I can almost always pick out some town intent to Rake's craziness in a game. He's actually fairly deliberate in when he pushes a baseless read just for the reactions, and he's usually coy when pressed about it. Town Rake handles pressure much better than scum-Rake. He keeps his cool and eventually you can see what his objective was, even if his read turns out to be wrong. In this case, I don't see either of those. He's not being coy, he's being defensive and accusatory. He's not keeping his cool, he's getting panicked and diverting attention from himself.

All that, combined with what I think are pretty bad reads, leaves Rake firmly at the top of my scumlist.

I hope I can trust you to push Rake toMorrow.

 

[Dabuz]

bunzy please clarify something for me

in #120 you were perfectly fine with rake voting jexs - did you mean you were fine with the jexs wagon (i ASSUME this is what you meant because why would you post it otherwise, anything you dont quote is implied ok)? or did it mean you were fine with rake's vote? i only ask this in reference to the below

are you or are you not fine with a jexs lynch?

Well in 121 I recant that by asking for explanation. Basically I was fine with Rake's jump onto JeXs and the wagon's direction (120) but then after thinking about it I became unsure if Rake's reasoning for a jump is legit. (121)

At that moment I was not sure how I felt about any of the lynch candidates, 207 I became against the JeXs lynch and for the Rake lynch, right now I have to read Gorf's case and see if it changes that.

 

[Dabuz]

@ Dabuz
@asianaussie
@ Xatres
What do you think of Gorf defending Rake but so willing to simply off Lunchables and I?

Are you insinuating a Gorf/ Rake scumteam?

 

[JeXs]

Are you insinuating a Gorf/ Rake scumteam?

At that point of time, yes. I believe Gorf is town now, doubt scum Gorf would make a case like that.

 

[Dabuz]

Well consider this, Gorf looks bad on ScumRake flip, awful in fact, just about any credibility he could have is gone and he's pretty lynchable at that point. I highly doubt a Gorf/ Rake scum team would have Gorf vocally defending his scummate Rake.

 

[JeXs]

Well consider this, Gorf looks bad on ScumRake flip, awful in fact, just about any credibility he could have is gone and he's pretty lynchable at that point. I highly doubt a Gorf/ Rake scum team would have Gorf vocally defending his scummate Rake.

Yes but you have to consider the fact that this is a mini and a scum lynch on Day 1 would be terrible for the scum team. 1v5 on Day 2 is a very bad scenario. At least that what I was thinking back when I made that post.

 

[Uncle Ruckus]

vote rake

 

[Uncle Ruckus]

waddup ******. this is marshy

JEXS VS RAKE IS SVT. RAKE IS PROLLY THE S. I JOINED THIS GAME JUST TO HARDBODY HIS SCUMMYASS. IF HE FLIPS TOWN WE BODY THE **** OUTTA JEXS BEFORE HE CAN EVEN POST

 

[JeXs]

waddup *****s. this is marshy

JEXS VS RAKE IS SVT. RAKE IS PROLLY THE S. I JOINED THIS GAME JUST TO HARDBODY HIS SCUMMYASS. IF HE FLIPS TOWN WE BODY THE **** OUTTA JEXS BEFORE HE CAN EVEN POST

wait wtf?

 

[Uncle Ruckus]

that post was more coherent than anything i've read this game

nfi about his meta and a lot of his early posts seemed confusing to me (since neither town nor scum would really want to post stuff like that, i mean come on)

vote: jexs

i think that's L-1

bunzy please clarify something for me

in #120 you were perfectly fine with rake voting jexs - did you mean you were fine with the jexs wagon (i ASSUME this is what you meant because why would you post it otherwise, anything you dont quote is implied ok)? or did it mean you were fine with rake's vote? i only ask this in reference to the below



are you or are you not fine with a jexs lynch?

@ Xatres i believe you're the one who's hard town reading jexs, what do you think of gorf's post

you are done ****ing disgusting ass ***** ************

WHO THE **** IS SCUM WITHOUT YOU JUST SHEEPING ******* AUSSIE? WHOS TOWN? GET AT ME SON

 

[Uncle Ruckus]

@ Xivii

im replacing gorf

 

[Dabuz]

Yes but you have to consider the fact that this is a mini and a scum lynch on Day 1 would be terrible for the scum team. 1v5 on Day 2 is a very bad scenario. At least that what I was thinking back when I made that post.

I disagree, even with a scum lynch (assuming it wasn't 1v6) scum most likely goes into toMorrow 1v4, still only need 2 MLs. NK a couple obv townies, leave the null pool alive, try to outplay town; it's really not that bad.

 

[Dabuz]

Anyway, BBL getting a car.

 

[JeXs]

I disagree, even with a scum lynch (assuming it wasn't 1v6) scum most likely goes into toMorrow 1v4, still only need 2 MLs. NK a couple obv townies, leave the null pool alive, try to outplay town; it's really not that bad.

Yes but it's still not a good scenario.

 

[JeXs]

It would be essentially a one man scumteam against 4 townies. Not very easy if you ask me. Congrats on your car.

 

[Uncle Ruckus]

@#HBC | Rake

im hardbodying you to the next dimension

@ Dabuz

talk to me about ****

 

[Uncle Ruckus]

Usually when I play stuff like resistance I can tell when people are and aren't town based on their play, (Well, its spies in resistance but you know what I mean)

this is complete and total garbage

mafia is THE SAME **** as resistance. uninformed majority vs informed minority. you need to be asking what the latter would do in their position and make judgement calls off of that

so lunch. how do you think scum would do on d1 when town is lost in the sauce and who fits the profile the best? why? no more excuses

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

^btw i approve

 

[Shun Goku Satsu Rake]

Well in 121 I recant that by asking for explanation. Basically I was fine with Rake's jump onto JeXs and the wagon's direction (120) but then after thinking about it I became unsure if Rake's reasoning for a jump is legit. (121)

At that moment I was not sure how I felt about any of the lynch candidates, 207 I became against the JeXs lynch and for the Rake lynch, right now I have to read Gorf's case and see if it changes that.

You realize my slot was already voting jexs right

 

[Shun Goku Satsu Rake]

Mfw marshy comes to lynch im so honoured and offended cause he's wrong

 

[Uncle Ruckus]

the ONLY doubt i have in you bein scum is that gorf tells me youre town and hes usually right when hes picking out weirdass play by townies in early game. that said im confident enough that jexs is the play on your town flip that i dont give much of a ****. if i could i would kill both of you

rake i still am open to voting jexs first but you need to be more cooperative instead of just goin herp derp youre wrong. lay out your reads and thoughts on the cast if you please

 

[JeXs]

the ONLY doubt i have in you bein scum is that gorf tells me youre town and hes usually right when hes picking out weirdass play by townies in early game. that said im confident enough that jexs is the play on your town flip that i dont give much of a ****. if i could i would kill both of you

rake i still am open to voting jexs first but you need to be more cooperative instead of just goin herp derp youre wrong. lay out your reads and thoughts on the cast if you please

How confident is gorf on the rake read? Do you think me vs rake can be a tvt?

 

[Dabuz]

You realize my slot was already voting jexs right

Your point being? You replaced a slot with 1 post which left more questions than answers.

@ Dabuz

talk to me about ****

Back now.

 

[Dabuz]

@#HBC | Rake Were you in Luigi's mansion mafia?

 

[Shun Goku Satsu Rake]

Kantrips game ? Yes

 

[Shun Goku Satsu Rake]

Was some sort of pr. Painter or something to show hidden flips Played A bit scummiest so i could live longer and avoid looking townie enough to kill

 

[Shun Goku Satsu Rake]

Why ?[/]

 

[Uncle Ruckus]

How confident is gorf on the rake read? Do you think me vs rake can be a tvt?

talkin to him on skype now. he is "not all that confident" regarding rake

we both agree that it most definitely IS svt. i think its rake. he thinks its you

ima reread this **** later today

 

[Dabuz]

Ok, wanted to make sure it was you. Gorf does have a point about you being a blockhead sometimes, Luigi's mansion was a good example of that where the whole game you were kind of just, derp; this game is similar in that regard.

 

[JeXs]

talkin to him on skype now. he is "not all that confident" regarding rake

we both agree that it most definitely IS svt. i think its rake. he thinks its you

ima reread this **** later today

See, the thing is, I'm afraid that Rake could just really be this dumb.

 

[Shun Goku Satsu Rake]

Ok, wanted to make sure it was you. Gorf does have a point about you being a blockhead sometimes, Luigi's mansion was a good example of that where the whole game you were kind of just, derp; this game is similar in that regard.

Yeah but all my reads sans cicus

 

[Shun Goku Satsu Rake]

Were correct

 

[Uncle Ruckus]

shut the **** up rake. you thought soup was town and your reads changed enough that you have no right to ride your own **** in this game

what are your reads here o master?

 

[Dabuz]

JeX and Rake, I want full readlists with explanations.

 

[Uncle Ruckus]

unvote

im far too concerned about my bipolar disorder juggling this game of life and death. id rather not vote than to argue with myself as far as WHO im voting.

Yeah but all my reads sans cicus

Were correct

this is exactly what i meant when i said self entitled prick. he refuses to see the bad in his play no matter how many times he's told. all he sees is what's in his head: his scumreads. this same sentiment is similarly stated in EVERY town game he plays (and no ******* that not me tryna draw a correlation here). therefore, rake's play will likely NEVER change and we need to try and work AROUND it if we want an accurate read.

no, im not confident in my town read on em. yes, a large portion is founded on my confidence in jexscum. yes, i think their interaction is EXTREMELY svt and if one flips town ill be gunning down the other toMorrow.

also, guys, just look at jex's responses to my case. first off, @ JeXs , just cuz you say "when i flip toMorrow" doesn't make it harder to lynch you. it used to when i was 16. also... there's a difference between strawmanning and shortening (also you strawmanned me AGAIN but alas ill drop it).