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JeXs

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Congratulations on your win Xatres. I think you played well.
 

Dabuz

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Xatres played fine but not great, we should of lynched Lunchables D1 because screw that guy, but w/e. Was debating voting Xatres instead of Ryu toDay but a point needs to be made that inactivity needs to be dealt with.
 
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@ JeXs JeXs BTW, in the future a few mistakes to watch out for: Watch out for asking a lot of questions without following up, and while this comes with time, try to read more into actions than just activity and really surface level stuff. That read list you posted at the end really just made me think you weren't thinking through the slots properly, but once again that'll come with more experience. Finally, Gorf had a point with the time of your Rake jump looking suspicious.
 

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Sigh, while I understand the frustration I wish you let me post.
Sorry, no matter what you said, I wasn't going to listen. As a slot, scum or town you'd need to find 1 of me or Xatres to scumread, then with Lunchable's lack of content, I had no reason to town read your slot, at least Xatres had good distancing going for him so meh. No matter what you could say, you'd be null at best :v
 

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BTW Zen, I really liked the summer/ winter powers setup, do you have a list of how each power would affect other characters? I think it would work much better in a regular game because PRs can take risks with a mysterious power.
 

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Overall, we definitely just needed more content being produced, that and from now on if Xatres tries to use meta as a reasoning to not post much, we HBC him out of the window, no questions :p
 

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: V Welp, them I gotta look back at his play and see if I missed any scum tells, the closest thing I saw is him sticking so hard to RakeScum and no one else, but it worked to his advantage so IDK.
 

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GG, guys!

My plan from the start was to bus Badwolf/Rake from D1 and keep them my primary target until one of us was lynched. Me being the traitor meant that we had no communication, and I'm assuming he had no idea that I was traitor. This would make all our interactions as natural as possible.

@ asianaussie asianaussie - Yes, I think JeXs play was just fine. Perhaps my confidence in my read was colored somewhat by my knowledge of who was scum, but for the most part I stand by what I said D1.

@ JeXs JeXs - I think you did pretty well. Still plenty of room for growth, but I think even town-Xatres would have gotten an accurate town-read on you based on your play. You definitely should never self-hammer though, not unless we're minutes to deadline. You guys might have swung the vote to Rake and made my job D2 a lot harder.

Fun fact! I actually planned to get to lylo with the pair of you (aussie and JeXs), as I figured both of you would be most likely to consider me town by the endgame. Not sure why Rake chose to kill aussie over Gorf (who was practically confirmed town by his power), but the results of D1 and N1 definitely changed my plans.

@ Shun Goku Satsu Rake Shun Goku Satsu Rake - Sorry I had to bus you, but hey, it worked! We got that scum win I promised you last time we teamed together.

@ #HBC | Red Ryu #HBC | Red Ryu - Yeah, sucks that you didn't get a chance to play, but you were walking into a tough position. Thanks for being willing to step up, though!

@ Dabuz Dabuz - I was definitely nervous at the thought of having you in lylo with me, as I figured you'd be the most likely to see through my ploy. Fortunately you were focused heavily on lunchables. I think I still had a good shot even if you'd let Red Ryu catch up, but I'll take the quicker end any day. GG!

@ Xivii Xivii - Great setup! I too thought the summer/winter mechanic was pretty neat. Thanks for hosting!
 
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Characters:

1. Elsa (Town - Vote Freezer)
-will freeze a persons vote for the day (uninformed)

2. Anna (Town - Vote Warmer)
-will unfreeze a persons vote for the day (uninformed)

3. Olaf - VT
-becomes hated if heated; increases every 24 hours (uninformed)
-becomes unhated if cooled by elsa or gem stone used by Duke

4.Oaken - VT

5. Marshmallow - Independent Vanilla
-Informed on who elsa is; win condition is to keep Elsa alive
-becomes double voter if cooled (uniformed)
-loses double vote if heated or gem stone used by Duke
-If Elsa is night killed, joins the town (uninformed).

6. Hans - Mafia Town Traitor (Kristoff safe claim)
-Informed who partner is
-Cannot be night killed
-Gains mafia night kill if partner dies

7. Duke of Weselton - Mafia Antagonist (Pabbie safe claim)
-Immune to Sorcery
-Can make a person immune to sorcery. May only be used once a day.
-Informed Hans is in the game and his partner, not informed on who Hans is.
 
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Dabuz

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Meh, I should of pressured your 245 WRT RakeScum more, I pretty much ignored it because I liked the Rake push support but it was definitely not reasoning I agreed with.
 

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So if somehow the game ended with Elsa, Marshmallow, Hans, and Duke. Marshmellow would have achieved victory, while Elsa would have not.
 

asianaussie

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xatres fwiw i was going to push you extremely hard about the jexs day 1 stuff which i STILL dont think is good town play, but if it was me you and jexs, i probably would have ended up pushing jexs lynch so \o/

im also confused as to why rake decided to kill me and not gorf

good play though
 

JeXs

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How was anyone town reading Rake? I mean all he did was literally say "I'm town and if you scum read me you're bad at this game! Also, Lunchables is town because LOL"!
 

Uncle Ruckus

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i ****in knew it -.-

xatres you played it pretty well. your move onto rake yesterDay is what finally got me to be confident on you being rake's partner. but after we knew it was rake, marshy and i were debating it either being aussie or lunch as rakes mate. then, we opened our possibilities. you weren't the ace in the hole though. it was rake. rake didn't hardly mention you. but on top of that smaller point, his intense mentioning of lunch was, contrary to popular belief, the CLEAR indicator of them not being partners. it's that type of ploy that, on paper, serves as a win-win. if the townie who's playing bad and is practically begging for the noose is lynched, the scummy looks right and therefore doesn't have his judgement questioned. if the scummy is lynched, the townie looks hardcore defended and therefore really really bad. but scum's generally a bunch of scared ******* in thread. it's a fact of nature. they're being hunted and they need to LIE. lying is an art form.
 

Uncle Ruckus

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idk what the the **** gorfs talkin about wrt to his analysis above. that post was dumb as hell n i reached the conclusion i did thru different means
 
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Uncle Ruckus

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bunzy why wuld yu say hey guys lets lynch lunch tomo no matter what n then hammer like that? yu pretty much jus said **** yu town ima do me instead of hashing out the partner wit yur town read in me. yur play was good outside of that (yu were a townbro for once!) but that was whack as all ****
 

Shun Goku Satsu Rake

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Rake actually didn't know who his partner was :p
actually as soon as you declined to tell me, i had a pretty good idea it was xtares due to his bw boner, so i played up my feelings on lunchables and purposely made it sound janky and just ridiculous, even to the point of hard defending and chainsawing for the slot because i knew town wouldn't likely lynch xatres. to be fair , he did a better job hididng it as the game went on which was good because i was scared people would realize xtres didnt do much outside of me and in a bubble of me flipping scum, that'd be bad
 

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bunzy why wuld yu say hey guys lets lynch lunch tomo no matter what n then hammer like that? yu pretty much jus said **** yu town ima do me instead of hashing out the partner wit yur town read in me. yur play was good outside of that (yu were a townbro for once!) but that was whack as all ****
2 Reasons: You said earlier on you were seeing town Xat on Rake scum flip (I am referring to your slot and not your individual head), I also refused to let a game go to a slot with maybe 10 posts total. I guess it was really bad tunneling in retrospect but with how ****ty this game ended up being, I just wanted it to be over.
 

Shun Goku Satsu Rake

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GG, guys!

My plan from the start was to bus Badwolf/Rake from D1 and keep them my primary target until one of us was lynched. Me being the traitor meant that we had no communication, and I'm assuming he had no idea that I was traitor. This would make all our interactions as natural as possible.

@ asianaussie asianaussie - Yes, I think JeXs play was just fine. Perhaps my confidence in my read was colored somewhat by my knowledge of who was scum, but for the most part I stand by what I said D1.

@ JeXs JeXs - I think you did pretty well. Still plenty of room for growth, but I think even town-Xatres would have gotten an accurate town-read on you based on your play. You definitely should never self-hammer though, not unless we're minutes to deadline. You guys might have swung the vote to Rake and made my job D2 a lot harder.

Fun fact! I actually planned to get to lylo with the pair of you (aussie and JeXs), as I figured both of you would be most likely to consider me town by the endgame. Not sure why Rake chose to kill aussie over Gorf (who was practically confirmed town by his power), but the results of D1 and N1 definitely changed my plans.

@ Shun Goku Satsu Rake Shun Goku Satsu Rake - Sorry I had to bus you, but hey, it worked! We got that scum win I promised you last time we teamed together.

@ #HBC | Red Ryu #HBC | Red Ryu - Yeah, sucks that you didn't get a chance to play, but you were walking into a tough position. Thanks for being willing to step up, though!

@ Dabuz Dabuz - I was definitely nervous at the thought of having you in lylo with me, as I figured you'd be the most likely to see through my ploy. Fortunately you were focused heavily on lunchables. I think I still had a good shot even if you'd let Red Ryu catch up, but I'll take the quicker end any day. GG!

@ Xivii Xivii - Great setup! I too thought the summer/winter mechanic was pretty neat. Thanks for hosting!



Its coolio Julio. Though i couldn't believe town actually lynched jexs
 

Shun Goku Satsu Rake

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I mean replacing in.i had a pretty good idea badwulf was scum cause in his one post he literally laid out reasons that sounded like he was trying to town read you then just st added "but he's scum" essentially.

Like he voted yoyr being honest and i thought wtf is this
 
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Uncle Ruckus

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2 Reasons: You said earlier on you were seeing town Xat on Rake scum flip (I am referring to your slot and not your individual head), I also refused to let a game go to a slot with maybe 10 posts total. I guess it was really bad tunneling in retrospect but with how ****ty this game ended up being, I just wanted it to be over.
no dude we said lunch was scum if xat v rake was tvs n asked for yur opinion on that. we wuldnvtve asked yur opinion if our mind was settled. its cool tho i understand the burnout it jus takes 1 inactive in a mini to make it ****ty
 
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