Mewtwo: Back or stuck in SSBM?

[Mewrio007]

Would you like it if Mewtwo returned for SSBB? I think he should, since he's unique!!!

 

[Sculelos]

Yes I think mewtwo should return, maby a little bit faster, powerfull and heavier though, in melee he was a bit to weak.

 

[LaniusShrike]

I predict he will be back with a better moveset, making down B more functional and side B actually do something.
I've always thought it would be cool if side B (confusion) would grab the characters, spin them around, and then shoot them off whichever direction the player is indicating. Mew2's supposed to have psychic powers, and I think the very essence of telekinesis in video games is flinging enemies into eachother. Also, instead of deflecting items, doing the same thing- catches items and then sends them off the direction indicated, now actually being able to hurt things -_-.
I think having a move like that would be logical considering the character and would knock him off low tier. Am I the only one that thinks the telepath should have telekinesis?
Note: Maybe he wouldn't be able to toss enemies at a downward angle, seems like that'd be a little cheap around edges.
He needs to be heavier as well. I think his speed would be fine if these adjustments were made. He wouldn't be great at competitive play maybe, but sure would be fun for the casual game.

 

[kaid]

As someone who scared fox players at "compettitive play" (NCB tourny) with mewtwo, I would think that simple stat boosts are all he really needs. (Not that I would MIND having more to play with...)

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

Down B, although it sucks, was fairly accurate anyway. As for Confusion, if it did anything similar to the anime/movie versions, it'd be beyond broken. It either should turn somebody around with slightly more damage, or your opponent take the damage(but not the force of the blow) instead.

Heavier? Doubtful. He's always been light, not because he's a pokemon, but because he floats. Even if he weighed as much as Bowser, it doesn't affect his falling speed because it's a completely different factor. Strength to an extent. Physical moves should be weak, but psychic attacks should be much more powerful.

Confusion was fine as a Deflection, so unless the above mentioned thing(s) happened, there's no point in making the items do damage.

 

[FiErCe_oNi]

mewtwo was the best option to put in ssbm back then, and it is one of the best options to keep in ssbb now

 

[CHUK]

Yea he is an original character so I beleive he should return.

 

[Diddy Kong]

Yup he should deffinatly return in Brawl! Mewtwo is not only a very unique character, but also very fitting for this game. My only fear is that he might replaced with Lucario.

Anyways, if he returns you can be sure they'll buff him in his stats. Mewtwo has poor stats all around in SSBM, but his moves are very good. I hope they'll leave his moveset alone and just focus on making him stronger and heavier. His speed is actually fine with me.

 

[OysterMeister]

Yes, Mewtwo should come back, in a big way. Although he needs to get himself out of the bottom tier.
Mewtwo already has some good moves and some fantastic throws, but he needs some tweaking to help him tie it all together. His weight shouldn't change, and he doesn't need to be too much faster than he is now, really. But his attacks need to carry more knockback, and I'd like to see more of his attacks that don't rely as much on sweetspots to be effective.

Also, I don't know if this is just my copy of smash or not, but Mewtwos reflector is unbelievably bad. Sure, it reflects stuff, but the problem is that the reflected projectile will do no damage to the person it reflects back on. Seriously, what the hell is the point of that?

I think qdMpb was onto something. Mewtwo never touches any item holds, and I think he could really abuse this power. For example, someone fires a fully charged shot at mewtwo, he uses confusion, and instead of being reflected the shot is just pulled out of the air, where it floats around mewtwo like any normal item until he decides to throw it at someone. Don't tell me that wouldn't be fun.

 

[freeman123]

Mewtwo was one of the new characters I was most excited about back when Melee came out. Then I was dissapointed after I saw how bad he was. They should make him better.

Mewtwo was by far the strongest character in the Pokemon games(the ones I played anyway, I haven't played any of the newer ones). Alot of people would refuse to even play against anyone who used Mewtwo, that's how cheap he was. One Mewtwo could easily take out 6 other pokemon.

Now I'm not saying he has to be that good in SSB, but it's a little ridiculous to see him get annialated by Peach. That's like the Hulk getting beat up by Mary-Jane from Spider-Man.

 

[dotdotdot!]

Mewtwo was one of the new characters I was most excited about back when Melee came out. Then I was dissapointed after I saw how bad he was. They should make him better.

Mewtwo was by far the strongest character in the Pokemon games(the ones I played anyway, I haven't played any of the newer ones). Alot of people would refuse to even play against anyone who used Mewtwo, that's how cheap he was. One Mewtwo could easily take out 6 other pokemon.

Now I'm not saying he has to be that good in SSB, but it's a little ridiculous to see him get annialated by Peach. That's like the Hulk getting beat up by Mary-Jane from Spider-Man.

FYI, Mewtwo is still pretty much the most overpowerful pokemon in the whole lot. Arseus or one of the newer uniques may change that when D/P is released, but Mewtwo still stands as an extremely strong, cheap pokemon.

 

[mista_mista]

I hope Mewtwo comes back, and I'm pretty sure he will be buffed a little bit.

 

[Zodiak-Lucien]

Mewtwo should definately come back, he is a lot of fun to play. He should definately have a weight increase and a KO move. His Down B and Side B could be better too.

 

[Ferro De Lupe]

Young Link, Dr. Mario, Pichu, and Roy will all be gone before Mewtwo is even considered...

 

[MewtwoMaster2002]

FYI, Mewtwo is still pretty much the most overpowerful pokemon in the whole lot. Arseus or one of the newer uniques may change that when D/P is released, but Mewtwo still stands as an extremely strong, cheap pokemon.

He hasn't been the most overpowered Pokemon since after the first Generation. Lugia and Ho-oh could stand up to him, and Deoxys's strategy could defeat Mewtwo. So having all the new powerful D/P Pokemon makes Mewtwo seem weaker than he already is. He could still beat most normal Pokemon though.

I agree Mewtwo should come back in Brawl with upgraded stats. I think you should be able to choose how fast he falls so that it uses both his heaviness and floatyness. The effects of his Disable should last longer if it isn't replaced with a new move. Also recovery from his confusion shouldn't be so quick as to be able to hit him while still in the air.

His Shadowball should be at least a little more powerful because of lack of good KO moves. Overall, he's okay and I want him back in Brawl.

 

[T-major]

MewTwo should defenatly come back, and be revamped to represent the embodyment of awsome that he was in the Pokemon games. I was extremly disapointed by MewTwo's performance in Melee. I'm sure a lot of other people were as well. they need to make him faster, stronger! they can rebuild him! they have the technology!

his speed was rather disapointing to me. if he's useing his mind to flote, he could could make him self flote faster. his wieght is a little out of place, but he's floting, so it kind of makes sense that he would be sent flying easily. anyways, all the things that need to be fixed have been said already. so yeah.

 

[Shadow Calibur]

He should come back, but only a bit heavier and faster. There ARE people that know how to use him to his full potential.

 

[HiddenTiger]

I love how everybody always talks down about Mewtwo, and calls him the worst in Melee, but as soon as some asks if he should leave, everyone goes "No, don't do that!" Wierd people make HT laugh...

Anyhow, don't axe M2, just fix him. Thats what I say.

 

[T-major]

I love how everybody always talks down about Mewtwo, and calls him the worst in Melee, but as soon as some asks if he should leave, everyone goes "No, don't do that!" Wierd people make HT laugh...

Anyhow, don't axe M2, just fix him. Thats what I say.

the reason people do that is because he isn't very good in melee compared to others. but since Melee performance dosn't matter when it comes to Brawl, they say he should come back because they know he would be better. nothing weird about that.

 

[_clinton]

Mew2 for SSBB

 

[HiddenTiger]

the reason people do that is because he isn't very good in melee compared to others. but since Melee performance dosn't matter when it comes to Brawl, they say he should come back because they know he would be better. nothing weird about that.

I know, I know. I just find it amusing, is all. I guess I'm wierd like that.

 

[XsolidXsnakeX]

mew two was basicly a stronger clone of samus

 

[F3ST]

mew two was basicly a stronger clone of samus

that was a joke right?

 

[Iggy K]

He needs to return, no need to axe a popular character that has signifigance to their series.

 

[experiment111]

Mewtwo has a much better chance of making it than some chars *cough* Dr mario/ Pichu *cough*

 

[Sculelos]

Mewtwo has a much better chance of making it than some chars *cough* Dr mario/ Pichu *cough*

I think he even has a better chance then Roy, G&W and Ice Climbers, which are possible cannidits to get axed.

 

[marthsword]

Yes, he was unique, but he was also weak. He only really specialized in jumping, and throws which doesn't get him very far. A great B moveset could fix the problem, or some amazing KO move like marth's f smash or jigg's rest.

 

[OysterMeister]

I think he even has a better chance then Roy, G&W and Ice Climbers, which are possible cannidits to get axed.

Roy possibly, being one of the clones and all, but G&W and the Ice Climbers aren't possible candidates for the axe. Just because you're retro doesn't make you expendable. I mean, look at Pit: Brawl will be his first video game appearance in twenty years.

And if the only argument against Mewtwo is his melee performance, then there is no argument at all. How well a character did in Melee has no bearing on their chances of being in Brawl.

 

[Var Parasite]

Update for Shadow Ball : Powerig up with the power of roy's blazer but a lot slower and posible to continiue later , activated like sheik's needles , faster but weaker rapid fire and without shocks.
As for Confusion : Stays in the field until activated or when 4th confusion is activetad , the first three will create a wire between each other , this wire will send everything and everyone who touches it through the triangle frozen even in a damaging frame and usable for even mewtwo himself but doesn't deal damage to mewtwo himself or team mates. Shadow Ball when thrown in will move to the middle of the triangle , absorb the confusions and explode with an electric effect which will deal damage and a shockwave that will deliver a knockback with a power and a range depending on the power of the Shadow Ball thrown in.
And the d-smash : A 720 degree turn with the tail hanging out with the Shadow Ball attached if fully charged. The Shadow Ball won't dissapear but only weaken.
If Shadow Ball is used in any way it will deal half of the damaging power of it to mewtwo.
Not probable but it would be cool.

 

[Sculelos]

Roy possibly, being one of the clones and all, but G&W and the Ice Climbers aren't possible candidates for the axe. Just because you're retro doesn't make you expendable. I mean, look at Pit: Brawl will be his first video game appearance in twenty years.

And if the only argument against Mewtwo is his melee performance, then there is no argument at all. How well a character did in Melee has no bearing on their chances of being in Brawl.

I meant that IF some chars where axed, I think the formentioned ones would go before mewtwo, although the only chars in melee that I hope don't return are doc and pichu, I don't care eather way if G&W, Ice Climbers, or Roy return.

And I actually liked Roy in melee, alot he was my favorite char for along time and I still like to play as him, I just feel their is more deserving Fire Emblem chars.

 

[the_air_up_there7]

I hope he does since he is my secondary character. He problably will or a new pokemon will replace him, or maybe the only pokemon will be pikachu, who knows??

 

[Thrillhouse-vh.]

Mewtwo should return with a speed and power boost, or completely redone to be what he was NOT in Melee

 

[boricuaboy]

I think mewtwo should come back but they should change his confusion move and his smashes because all his smashes do the same thing but in different directions

 

[MewtwoMaster2002]

I think mewtwo should come back but they should change his confusion move and his smashes because all his smashes do the same thing but in different directions

Not all his smashes do the same thing. Up Smash can trap some players for multiple hits before sending them up. Down Smash can be used for edge guarding and it sends your opponent to a different direction than forward smash. I'm pretty sure they do a different amount of damage and one is more powerful than another.

Anyways, Mewtwo should keep his throws; maybe have it so no one can escape the forward throw easily. Some moves need improvement, or they should be replaced completely. The rate at which he falls should be controlled so you could make it either floaty or heavy.

 

[boricuaboy]

i kno they have different effects but i meant that they look the same.. the down smash is the strongest

 

[Bowserlick]

There are several flaws to Mewtwo. I think (although obviously not sure) that the evil pokemon was designed to have excellent evasion skills and tricky specials. The downfall of the psychic pokemon was its weak body. Its strength comes only from the mind.

I would stick with the theme, but include the following changes.

1. Mewtwo should be physically weak, mentally strong at least for Brawl. But he still needs more weight. The cat has body mass. Definitely above average in terms of weight, his large body size still makes this advantage not as remarkable as it can be.
2. Change his Toward B and Down B. If Mewtwo is going to be proficient in mental attacks, this quality can be best represented in Specials and Smash attacks. His Toward and Down B moves are very specialized and very weak. His specials should still be tricky, but also useful. Here are some suggestions:

Toward B Disable: Instead of stunning the opponent, Mewtwo should randomly turn off an A attack from that character for as long as that character is still on that stock. Or until Mewtwo hits them again. Because Mewtwo is not physically strong, he needs some way to make his opponents more predictable. And the animation should be flashier and cooler then it is now.

Down B Barrier: Mewtwo forms a sphere of purple energy over its body. Attacks to the barrier do not cause damage or knock back. Once 35 damage is given to the shield it breaks and cannot be used again until the next stock. Stays on as long as the button is held. Little to no lag during the special.

3. Mewtwo’s Up A is nice and flashy. But his Smash A and now his Down A (since Snake has a cooler looking version) need to be updated if only for graphics. Although it would be nice if his Toward A had some strength.

Mewtwo should be focused on good evasion as well as weakening the enemy. Maybe his Smash A could teleport the opponent in a random direction, the distance influenced by percentage in order to throw his enemy off. Because the distance will be random, the move could come out faster and have less lag. It would not be so much of a finisher as a way to give Mewtwo some breathing room or time to charge up his shadow ball. His throws and shadow ball should be the primary finishers.

 

[Bowser Jr. 28]

I would be pretty mad to see Mewtwo not return and be replaced by some crappy new pokemon that you'll never use.{Jigglypuff} Mewtwo was like, the only pokemon I used when I got him. Anyway, if they add ANOTHER pokemon, it better be useful!

 

[_clinton]

Pichu's useful...he can dance and roll around in his own matter, can you dance and roll around in your own matter?

 

[Meta_Owns_Ur_Dad]

if they don't buff him, to me, he will just be another character to ignore... sorry Mewtwo fans. i guess im just one of the guys that din't find him good.

 

[mood4food77]

he had potential to be good, nintendo just messed around with him too much

he'll most likely return with slightly different moveset (since most of his moves have potential to be good, they'll change the range and where the move sweetspots), he'll be heavier (probably closer to ganon's weight), which will make him survive much, much longer (in both directions), and he should have a better b move set