Mew2king's old website

[Blizzard Flames]

I was on the SmashWiki and I looked at M2K's old website which contained character statistics and whatnot. Is all that really for real? If so, how can I study it so that I can learn how to use the characters I want to their fullest extent?

 

[INSANE CARZY GUY]

really it compares people more than tells you how to use them just wait I get the link in a sec. I have read it all before. you should skip around a lot.


http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=30064 I got this in the sticky from ungle kenny's thing like the 5th link like satic listings or something

 

[KillaLotus]

i copied almost everything down however if you dont enjoy deadly cramps you can just read stuff that concern your characters i guess

 

[INSANE CARZY GUY]

Woah I found some flaws in his data not even kiding

Total Jumping Height - This measures how high characters can jump with all their jumps (and all 6 jumps for Kirby and Jigglypuff, INCLUDING air dodges, but NOT including wall jumps, special "Link's super jumps", and Mario's Mario Tornado and Dr. Mario's Dr. Tornado to gain extra height, because doing that is EXTREMELY hard to do to actually make any difference in a REAL match, becuase very very very few people have fingers THAT fast; not even me and I beat that really hard Star Fox Adventures game called "Test your Strength", which was NOT easy to beat, so that's why I'm not factoring that into this)

1) Ice Climbers (2)
2) Mewtwo
3) Jigglypuff (up-pound after each jump)
4-5) Falco / Pichu <-----(pichu has shorter jumps and up-B from what I know)
6-8) Fox / Kirby / Pikachu <--------
9) Sheik
10) Ness
11-12) Mr. Game & Watch / Zelda
---Jigglypuff (without up-pounds after each jump)
13) Luigi
14-15) Captain Falcon / Marth
16) Yoshi
17) Samus
18) Young Link
19) Ganondorf
20-21) Link / Roy
22) Peach
---Ice Climbers (1)
23) Mario (use Cape to gain extra height)
24-25) Bowser / DK
26) Dr. Mario


If my sig kindof sad?

 

[keeper]

Except you're basically wrong.

 

[INSANE CARZY GUY]

I am? I study pichu dude I have compared about everything from pichu to pikachu his guide even says pichu jumps lower than pikachu . Meaning if pichu does have a better up-B as in how far it would be a lot more.

Pichu's up-B can't reach the top of battlefield's top platform pikachu's can easyly pichu has to jump a little to reach it. I really know a lot of random useless stuff about pichu like he ducks lower when shooting the scope shooter(test by getting 2 scopes pick pichu and pikachu both grab one have pichu duck pikachu can shoot him have pichu shoot pikachu can't shoot him.

But if I,m wrong how do you make pichu's up-B longer?

 

[The Greater Leon]

m2k's frame data isnt really going to help you master your character. experience from playing will.

 

[pockyD]

can't pichu's up-b go twice in the same direction (while pikachu's can't)?

i don't play either of them so this is just hearsay

 

[NES n00b]

You can do it with both, but pichu's is infinitely easier.

 

[INSANE CARZY GUY]

No I,ve heard in rare cases pikachu's can double jump in the same way and maybe pichu's could I,ve never seen it. I don't know why people know so little abou their up-Bs they are both simple for the most part but have some odd parts like how there are 3 parts to each jump that you would care about.

Pichu's has no lag (most lagless move in the game) and can be used to move around if you know how.

Hey how do you go the same way twice?

 

[pockyD]

really

doesn't sound like you know that much about pichu

 

[INSANE CARZY GUY]

What do you know? ha I see your trying to mess with me but what do you know? How do you up-B the same way twice? Dude I know a lot of random crap about himlike he loses his clothes for 2 frames during d-tilt. Ask anyone don't argue about pichu with me unless you really know what your talking about I I know his D-tilt hits lower as the hotbox goes out, not by much but it does

 

[NES n00b]

To up b twice in the same direction, you put your control stick back to neutral after the first up b then press in the same direction again for the next part.

 

[tubes]

lol get wreck'd Insane Crazy Guy

 

[INSANE CARZY GUY]

Not really I learned something if you have ever been to to school get wreck'd. If there's something I don't know about I want to know I,ve never seen that and have tryed it once on 1/4 speed so yeah.

 

[ama(m/t)]

lmao this topic is awesome

 

[Zunari]

10/10 Would read again.

 

[RetroAntonio]

Chuck Norris approves.

 

[Blizzard Flames]

How the hell this become a Pichu debate? Whatever...

 

[keeper]

I am? I study pichu dude I have compared about everything from pichu to pikachu his guide even says pichu jumps lower than pikachu . Meaning if pichu does have a better up-B as in how far it would be a lot more.

Pichu's up-B can't reach the top of battlefield's top platform pikachu's can easyly pichu has to jump a little to reach it. I really know a lot of random useless stuff about pichu like he ducks lower when shooting the scope shooter(test by getting 2 scopes pick pichu and pikachu both grab one have pichu duck pikachu can shoot him have pichu shoot pikachu can't shoot him.

But if I,m wrong how do you make pichu's up-B longer?

Except the data isn't about the up-b, it's about total jump height. Why do you think Falco is so high on the list?

Okay, really? You thought it was only up-b recovery moves when Jigglypuff was near the top? You thought Bowser had a higher displacing up-b than Doc?

How the hell this become a Pichu debate? Whatever...

It happened when Insane Carzy Guy decided to talk about how great Pichu is in every thread and how much unlocked potential there is in ICs desyncs in every thread.

 

[pockyD]

Except the data isn't about the up-b, it's about total jump height. Why do you think Falco is so high on the list?

Okay, really? You thought it was only up-b recovery moves when Jigglypuff was near the top? You thought Bowser had a higher displacing up-b than Doc?

Well, he did (correctly) observe that pikachu's grounded and second jumps > pichu's

4-5) Falco / Pichu <-----(pichu has shorter jumps and up-B from what I know)
6-8) Fox / Kirby / Pikachu <--------

he just failed to understand how the up-b works... you're busting on him for nothing (especially when he says so many other terrible things that you can easily make fun of)

 

[keeper]

Well, he did (correctly) observe that pikachu's grounded and second jumps > pichu's



he just failed to understand how the up-b works... you're busting on him for nothing (especially when he says so many other terrible things that you can easily make fun of)

Pent up annoyance.

 

[INSANE CARZY GUY]

How the hell this become a Pichu debate? Whatever...

I reread the guide and saw something wrong with it and I knew for a fact pichu had a worse recovery in height.

I thought it incuded up-Bs too because the list shows one ice climber and 2 ice climbers on the list and I don't think nana makes you jump higher. But sorry you have NO idea who out of it i,ve been then and like for the last 4 or 5 days.
But if I,m wrong i,m wrong and I can understand that.


yeah m2 has a really good jump.

 

[ArcNatural]

Straying again ISC.