Rosa and Mega unfortunately both get kinda violated by this combo. Rosa gets combo'd very early (~0-20%) while Mega gets combo'd much later (~30-50%). The combo % also varies depending on how stale Uair and setup moves are, and also rage effect. If the MK is good enough it's not escapable, so basically don't get hit by dash attack or Utilt at around those %s, and DI away from any throws.
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Q&A Meta Knight: Questions & Answers Thread (Don't make or reply to new threads just asking questions)
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Schilt
Smash Rookie
If given the opportunity, I will :DProtip: Be sure to taunt after every Death Combo if applicable.
Cheers for the advice, I'll try and not **** up horribly. Just for reference, Ganon starts dying to the string about what, 40% ish?
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Twiranitar
Smash Cadet
I'm afraid to tell you that you are screwed. Best thing you can do is learn the percents where your character dies to the combo and be very careful during those moments. You can also try to DI the DA, but you will sometimes fail. Once you're being Up-air'ed, mix up your DI (left, right) to confuse the MK and make him drop the combo if he isn't good enough. I wish you luck.
ZTD | TECHnology
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Twiranitar gave a good answer to your question but I will further elaborate on it.
Assuming the Meta Knight knows the general range of when he can Death Combo (it is a combo not a string when done correctly fyi) and can account for other factors such as Rage and how stale his Up Airs are, your only shot is to hope you can DI and throw him off. But here's the caveat:
There are two kinds of Meta Knight players who can Death Combo: The ones who understand the inputs and the ones who understand the nuances of the combo as a whole.
The former tend to just start their Death Combos and have it fixed in their head that the opponent is only going to stay in a certain position (probably from playing against lesser experienced opponents/computers). As a result, these Meta Knights often drop combos to players who understand what DI does here because the Meta Knight will realize at the last second, "Oh **** he's too close to me!" and then drop the combo.
The latter is what you need to be concerned about. These Meta Knights react to your DI on the fly and have enough practice and hand dexterity to adjust mid combo and make sure they are in a position to finish you.
Unfortunately, Rosalina just gets bodied by Meta Knight to begin with and the Death Combo is the icing on the cake. Megaman does better but there's a rather large window that combo works on him due to his weight and fall speed.
It really is a matter of trying to mix DI to throw off your opponent assuming the conditions have been met in order for it to kill you.
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Amadeus for Edgelord Supreme.
What i said I'll ignore it less! bring the questions
Kaffei
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Do you think the nintendo lords will bless us with a good f-air
Dream on little dreamer
Twisted_Jokerr
Smash Cadet
If Meta Knights f-air had the ssf2 knockback trajectory, where it shoots them upwards instead of away, it would be his best move. The combo potential would make him top 5 in the game.
And he's not top 5 anyways?
Kaffei
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fkThat's disgusting. Can you imagine fair > uair combo > up B LOL
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tyro8
Smash Apprentice
if u want a good fair ask for diddy fair
Simikins
Nerfed
Hey MKs,
I've recently been trying to learn MK. He's an awesome characters, has cool taunts, the whole package really
The thread I thought would be the most useful was this one: http://smashboards.com/threads/meta...youve-much-yet-to-learn.407351/#post-19888004
While it is a very good directory, after clicking many of the links, it all seems a bit broken. Many of the threads linked have data removed (the ones by @Ulevo ) , and some of the links send you to a page that is different to what the link stated.
Where do I find the data/good mk learning resources.
Thanks
I've recently been trying to learn MK. He's an awesome characters, has cool taunts, the whole package really
The thread I thought would be the most useful was this one: http://smashboards.com/threads/meta...youve-much-yet-to-learn.407351/#post-19888004
While it is a very good directory, after clicking many of the links, it all seems a bit broken. Many of the threads linked have data removed (the ones by @Ulevo ) , and some of the links send you to a page that is different to what the link stated.
Where do I find the data/good mk learning resources.
Thanks
We have two good guides:Hey MKs,
I've recently been trying to learn MK. He's an awesome characters, has cool taunts, the whole package really
The thread I thought would be the most useful was this one: http://smashboards.com/threads/meta...youve-much-yet-to-learn.407351/#post-19888004
While it is a very good directory, after clicking many of the links, it all seems a bit broken. Many of the threads linked have data removed (the ones by @Ulevo ) , and some of the links send you to a page that is different to what the link stated.
Where do I find the data/good mk learning resources.
Thanks
http://smashboards.com/guides/know-...meta-knight-update-rapid-jab-edge-cancel.433/
http://smashboards.com/guides/you-have-a-fair-amount-left-to-learn-jamurais-mk-notes.569/
Other than those, to learn how to play MK I suggest watching Ito, Abadango and Tyrant sets.
Megamang
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Better players are starting to camp the ledge at their death percents, as this prevents proper follow ups.
warionumbah2
Smash Master
Newer MKs lack fundamentals so camping the ledge is a strong tactic. They can't play neutral for ****.
tyro8
Smash Apprentice
ohhh noooooo that strategy is sooo good man when people do that to me i automatically give up yo best strategy to avoid mk good job keep it up bro
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KirbyFan20
Smash Apprentice
What is the best way to DI Meta Knight's up-air strings?
Dagon97
Smash Journeyman
Is grab air release to Up B true on ? I think she can only jump out which it catches her jump anyways...
? I think she can only jump out which it catches her jump anyways...
Megamang
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ohhh noooooo that strategy is sooo good man when people do that to me i automatically give up yo best strategy to avoid mk good job keep it up bro
Do you need a doctor?
Legend0fMatt
Smash Rookie
Hey, I'm new to mk and just want some tips or something to that avail. I am not the best at the game, but I can pull of combos and techs so any advice you have my ears are open. Also what is the best option out of down throw? Thanks,
Matt
Matt
-Iceberg
Smash Cadet
Hey there everyone. Is there a consistent way to get the 120 BKB instead of 70 BKB with the first hit of Shuttle Loop in the air? After testing, it seems like jumping and then inputting Shuttle Loop a few frames after achieves the higher knockback, but the issue is that I can't get it consistently.
Twiranitar
Smash Cadet
Here's all you need to get started. http://smashboards.com/threads/you-have-a-fair-amount-left-to-learn-jamurais-mk-notes.412987/
If you want more, I'd recommend lurking the forums; there's plenty of information here. Keep in mind Meta Knight is a character you'll need to invest a lot of your time in order to get good with him, and don't worry if you aren't seeing results at the beginning. It will be worth your effort.
CharizardBoss
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Dose anyone know how to do the long boost grab in this video?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gUEbN3AVo7w
the description has instructions , so I'm pretty sure I just dont understand the timing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gUEbN3AVo7w
the description has instructions , so I'm pretty sure I just dont understand the timing
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No idea! Someone should test that (not me)
I'm pretty sure one way to do it consistently is to horizontally "tipper" the move. I used to play on 3ds until very recently and spent a long time practicing the combo since it was basically required to hit the upB sweetspot to kill some characters at some %s, given the higher ceilings in 3ds.
Kaffei
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Does anyone know the mechanics behind Tornado? The reason I'm asking is because today I went through a Bayonetta D-Smash and Corrin F-smash with Tornado. It showed the clank bubble but I didn't get hit out of it.
@Ulevo said that there were no changes so I'm pretty sure it's always been like that; I think Tornado is just unexplored
@Ulevo said that there were no changes so I'm pretty sure it's always been like that; I think Tornado is just unexplored
Twiranitar
Smash Cadet
Can Bayonetta's neutral-B hit MK at long range? Is he short enough?
Jeronado
Smash Apprentice
As long as you're standing at least about one Meta Knight's distance away from her that move will never hit you. If you couch it won't even hit you at point blank range.
Steelballray
Smash Journeyman
Was the dashgrab thingy where it slides you off the stage if you do it near the ledge always there..? I thought it was removed along with C. Falcon's some patches ago.
Furret24
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84. For reference, that's the same as Sheik (just keep in mind that Sheik falls noticeably faster than her).
Thanks that really helps84. For reference, that's the same as Sheik (just keep in mind that Sheik falls noticeably faster than her).
CharizardBoss
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Has anyone thoroughly tested Corrin and Bayonetta's DA > UA > UB combo percents?
Twisted_Jokerr
Smash Cadet
I will be testing this this saturday.
iVoltage
$5.99 Abuser
So I'm getting a grasp of everything but I can't really find a use for tornado, unless I get it off of dthrow at low %. So what's it good for?
Its main uses are covering ledge options (and conditioning them to wait on the ledge > ledge trump), catching spotdodges and airdodges, and pressuring shields in conjunction with Dairs or Uairs.