ADHD
Smash Hero
Let's come up with ways to fight this guy. It's not impossible, it's just probably the most stressful matchup, even more than snake.
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Meta appreciation thread
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Tristan_win
Not dead.
Snake is a walk in the park compared to Meta knight if you ask me.
Meta knight
Ice climbers
Snake
Oilmar?
Truthfully, I just use Zelda for the whole match and play keep away on large levels such a Final Destination
Meta knight
Ice climbers
Snake
Oilmar?
Truthfully, I just use Zelda for the whole match and play keep away on large levels such a Final Destination
Katy Parry
The Only Zelda in Indiana
Yeah, I'd just use Zelda.
sooooooo difficult lol
olimar can be bad but he's not the worst sheik has sone nice gimps and a lot of stuff to eat through the little pikmin
but meta? wwoowww swords swords swords too hard
can't gimp ko him it's too risky with that reverse up b - he can edgeguard you like crazy... it's really hard...
once you rack up the damage it's almost best to just go for an up b trick or something to get the ko he's really hard to get inside... T-T
olimar can be bad but he's not the worst sheik has sone nice gimps and a lot of stuff to eat through the little pikmin
but meta? wwoowww swords swords swords too hard
can't gimp ko him it's too risky with that reverse up b - he can edgeguard you like crazy... it's really hard...
once you rack up the damage it's almost best to just go for an up b trick or something to get the ko he's really hard to get inside... T-T
ftilt lock, then try to set up for either Vanish or usmash.
ADHD
Smash Hero
The thing is I cant find a way to get an ftilt on that guy, its very difficult to gain control
Off topic: Hey gimpy, are you gonna play sheik now?
imdavid
Smash Journeyman
yeah ftilt lock is best, you can get from 30-70 in one go, try to ftilt him as he rolls behind you or side step and ftilt
R1ngo
Smash Journeyman
i have a few vids of me beating my friends mk, and he doesnt' suck, i'll try to post em, timing a good switch to zelda is a good plan tho IMO, also occasionally using the chain when you have a hand full of needles seems to catch ppl off gaurd
ADHD
Smash Hero
I guess I found that taking advantage of his slow movement especially in range of the tipper of the Usmash helped me a bit.
ADHD
Smash Hero
Hey I learned the dair actually has a use (gasp)! Alot of you probably know that the tornado is vunerable in the eye, and the dair goes right down into the eye of it so that might help but just be careful, if you miss its awful.
R1ngo
Smash Journeyman
play it as a numbers game chrome, when he gets to 80 or so get him off stage make a safe switch and finish him with zelda, 1 fsmash, usmash, or kick will do the trick, also throw the dins fire it can eat up MK
ADHD
Smash Hero
I guess I'll try this, I couldn't beat meta with zelda alone but maybe just for the KO...
Cobra
Smash Journeyman
I play MetaKnight a lot, here's what I think : (If others differ in opinion, please fill me in)
- I don't even try to edge-hog MetaKnight anymore...
...sure you can miss some opportunities, but I guarantee you that for every time you get an early game gimp on him, he will punish you another 5 times and end up stage spiking or gimping you. I'm not saying it can't be done at all...but it's very dangerous and can often lead to pain.
- Save your needles. Wait for your opportunity. The needles break through Meta's Whirlwind and are good for some damage.
- Get him in the Ftilt lock like Ankoku said, and follow up with an NAir or UTilt, or if you can, an USmash ...then BACK away and wait for the next opportunity.
- Dodge the Shuttle Loop (MK's UP+B)
...A very classic combo is the FAir to a Shuttle Loop. Be ready for it, because it's very fast, and not very punishable, and if done close enough to an edge, it WILL gimp you at about 60% health. Meta has NO FEAR of edge Hogging you at all after hitting you with this move. After the FAir combo, I spam Air Dodge...more often then not, it saves me, and really there's very little other choice.
- Don't think you can out-prioritize the glide...because you can't. the only thing that might work is a well timed Vanish.
- Be patient...the worst thing you can do is be too aggressive vs. Meta , he's got faster attacks, with better range and priority then you...aggression doesn't work.
- I don't even try to edge-hog MetaKnight anymore...
...sure you can miss some opportunities, but I guarantee you that for every time you get an early game gimp on him, he will punish you another 5 times and end up stage spiking or gimping you. I'm not saying it can't be done at all...but it's very dangerous and can often lead to pain.
- Save your needles. Wait for your opportunity. The needles break through Meta's Whirlwind and are good for some damage.
- Get him in the Ftilt lock like Ankoku said, and follow up with an NAir or UTilt, or if you can, an USmash ...then BACK away and wait for the next opportunity.
- Dodge the Shuttle Loop (MK's UP+B)
...A very classic combo is the FAir to a Shuttle Loop. Be ready for it, because it's very fast, and not very punishable, and if done close enough to an edge, it WILL gimp you at about 60% health. Meta has NO FEAR of edge Hogging you at all after hitting you with this move. After the FAir combo, I spam Air Dodge...more often then not, it saves me, and really there's very little other choice.
- Don't think you can out-prioritize the glide...because you can't. the only thing that might work is a well timed Vanish.
- Be patient...the worst thing you can do is be too aggressive vs. Meta , he's got faster attacks, with better range and priority then you...aggression doesn't work.
up b his glide attacks lol it's tooooooo gooood
ADHD
Smash Hero
Alright believe it or not the dtilt is fast and can help give you some space and the dsmash can give you damage. You can't be grabbed with a dtilt and sheik needs attacks that don't have ending lag against meta, its a plus since its also mobile. I think that these are the two ground moves that should be most utilized.
The fsmash is shield grabbed so easily by meta. WATCH OUT.
Uair is your best friend. Metas suck when you're below them.
The fsmash is shield grabbed so easily by meta. WATCH OUT.
Uair is your best friend. Metas suck when you're below them.
Tristan_win
Not dead.
Truthfully the only weakness I see in Meta Knight beside his lack of range attacks would be the fact that once he start moving he can't change directions or stop very quickly.
Because of this it's easier to make him run into a ^B.
Because of this it's easier to make him run into a ^B.
Danimal197
Smash Apprentice
- Joined
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Doesn't meta's dair have ridiculous priority?
Tristan_win
Not dead.
You can't have a clank between to air attacks.
Link for truth. ~ http://smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=155409
So it all all comes down to range or who can hit the other person "hurt boxes" before the other
ADHD
Smash Hero
lol you have toilet paper.
KRDsonic
Smash Master
For some reason, I've never really had much trouble with meta knights :/ I will say though, needles are meta knight's worst enemy against sheik, so I generally use those to rack up dammage, or if he's too close I'll either dodge and down smash or forward tilt. I usually try to hit him out of his gliding with an Up Smash because IIRC, he can't dodge in the middle of gliding and if you're in the right spot he can't hit you with his glide attack.
People like Snake and Ice Climbers give me way more trouble though (though maybe it's because the snake and Ice Climber people I fight are really good, using sheik against Hylian's Ice Climbers is a bad idea xD).
People like Snake and Ice Climbers give me way more trouble though (though maybe it's because the snake and Ice Climber people I fight are really good, using sheik against Hylian's Ice Climbers is a bad idea xD).
ADHD
Smash Hero
Heh, honestly I've tried all that. He's just a very difficult matchup mainly because he can screw sheik's recovery over so easily.... KOs at 76 percent with that **** shuttle loop anyone?
KRDsonic
Smash Master
I'm used to fighting characters that KO at low percents xD. Fighting Mr. Game & Watch with Ice Climbers is hard because his down smash can kill them at about 50-60% without it being charged. Offensively, sheik is ok against meta knight, I guess defensively it can be hard :/ I know how he messes her recovery up badly though xD.