Megaman, Pac-Man, and Sonic = THE perfect 3rd party trifecta (PAC-MAN CONFIRMED THE DREAM IS REAL!!)

[MagnesD3]

Snake is a must he is way too unique and an awesome realistic character compared to most of the cast.

 

[ToothiestAura]

I agree on the principle that Pacman is important to Nintendo. There have been many Pacman games on Nintendo systems, but overall, Pacman seems more important to gaming in general given his arcade cabinets. I don't think that diminishes his chances in any way, however.

The only issue with Pacman (and all 3rd parties) support is securing rights and, of course, limited inclusion in Smash. With Namco already helping with the game, I can see that obtaining the rights to one of their characters would be very easy. Snake is also in a similar situation. Sakurai and Kojima are friends, so securing rights for Snake is also very easy. People question Snake's inclusion for several reasons, but the only reasons with any validity are: 1.) overall 3rd party support limitations and 2.) development time.

I would see a Namco character as suffering from the same main problems. Then comes the problem of which Namco rep to choose. I think Pacman would be the most likely choice giving his immense popularity and wide appeal. However, Lloyd Irving from Tales of Symphonia has some popularity. He is a suitable second choice, but likely would not be the most hyped choice.

That said, I'm for Pacman. Seems like a logical choice and one I would be okay with if they keep him "classic." Much like was done with Megaman. Though I wouldn't expect more 3rd parties - no need to get our hopes up. I think, if anything, we'll get Snake's return. But, who knows? I may be surprised.

 

[Bauske]

Snake is a must he is way too unique and an awesome realistic character compared to most of the cast.

Just a personal opinion on my part, but that's one of the reasons I didn't like him. The rest of the cast is colorful, weird, and far from looking like standard humans, so Snake, Marth, Roy, those guys always stood out and looked pretty awkward to me. Again, just my own opinion, and I know it's not one that's shared, but I typically avoided them just because I felt like they didn't fit in.

 

[Guybrush20X6]

That interview put Snake's certainty into doubt so I'm leaning towards Pac.

Or Simon Belmont

 

[BluePikmin11]

He could be trolling you know. I'm leaning towards that he's back.

 

[Guybrush20X6]

He could be trolling you know. I'm leaning towards that he's back.

True, Kojima is the one true troll of game development. To the point where it becomes hard to tell if he just doesn't simply hate his audience.

 

[Marakatu]

Don't you think that Kojima would just say "no" if Snake was not in the game?
But if Snake was indeed in the new Super Smash Bros, he would probably wait until Snake was confirmed to say anything.

I thought that Snake could be cut, but after that interview I'm counting him in.

 

[VictoryIsMudkipz]

It Just Has To Happen!
C'mon Pac-Man, No Whammies

 

[Cobalsh]

I agree on the principle that Pacman is important to Nintendo. There have been many Pacman games on Nintendo systems, but overall, Pacman seems more important to gaming in general given his arcade cabinets. I don't think that diminishes his chances in any way, however.

The only issue with Pacman (and all 3rd parties) support is securing rights and, of course, limited inclusion in Smash. With Namco already helping with the game, I can see that obtaining the rights to one of their characters would be very easy. Snake is also in a similar situation. Sakurai and Kojima are friends, so securing rights for Snake is also very easy. People question Snake's inclusion for several reasons, but the only reasons with any validity are: 1.) overall 3rd party support limitations and 2.) development time.

I would see a Namco character as suffering from the same main problems. Then comes the problem of which Namco rep to choose. I think Pacman would be the most likely choice giving his immense popularity and wide appeal. However, Lloyd Irving from Tales of Symphonia has some popularity. He is a suitable second choice, but likely would not be the most hyped choice.

That said, I'm for Pacman. Seems like a logical choice and one I would be okay with if they keep him "classic." Much like was done with Megaman. Though I wouldn't expect more 3rd parties - no need to get our hopes up. I think, if anything, we'll get Snake's return. But, who knows? I may be surprised.

I've always seen Kojima as a teenager who can't make up his mind. He bashes the Gamecube, asks Sakurai to put Snake in Melee, bashes Wii, gets Snake in Brawl, and now he isn't porting MGSV to the Wii U. He'll agree with you, as long as it benefits him.

 

[Swamp Sensei]

I've always seen Kojima as a teenager who can't make up his mind. He bashes the Gamecube, asks Sakurai to put Snake in Melee, bashes Wii, gets Snake in Brawl, and now he isn't porting MGSV to the Wii U. He'll agree with you, as long as it benefits him.

When did he bash the Gamecube and/or Wii?

 

[Guybrush20X6]

Ignoring the Snake factor for a minute, If all three were in there would be a lotta reunions. Mario and Sonic were in the Olympics, Mario and Pac went cart racing, Sonic and Mega Man's comics crossed over, warped versions of Pac-Man and Mega Man appeared in Street Fighter X Tekken and Mario and Mega Man had appeared in German Nintendo comics together.

To recap that's
Mario/Sonic
Mario/Pac-Man
Mario/Mega Man
Mega Man/Sonic
Mega Man/Pac-Man

The only crossover that hasn't yet happened is Sonic meets Pac-Man.

 

[Knight Dude]

I would like to think that Snake still has a spot on the roster as well. But I do think that Pac-Man would fit in very well into Smash Bros. He's got a good history with Nintendo and he's clearly a legendary character of sorts. I think the only real doubts people might have with Pac-Man is his moveset potential. I'm personally fine with the third party characters we have now, Megaman and Sonic. They fit in really well, and Megaman was my most wanted character in Smash until he was finally confirmed.

 

[Raetah]

Just a personal opinion on my part, but that's one of the reasons I didn't like him. The rest of the cast is colorful, weird, and far from looking like standard humans, so Snake, Marth, Roy, those guys always stood out and looked pretty awkward to me. Again, just my own opinion, and I know it's not one that's shared, but I typically avoided them just because I felt like they didn't fit in.

Yes, because being a blue-haired prince with a legendary sword is clearly the classical standard human (;D).
Also, i dont think that Fire Emblem characters are far from other characters like The Legend Of Zelda characters, Captain Falcon or Samus (without the power suit) or even Pokemon Trainer (without Pokemons he just looks like a normal person) after all. The elf-like ears of Link, Zelda and Sheik or the the equipment of Captain Falcon or Samus dont makes him really much different from Humans. Just compare FE with TLOZ, in both franchises characters dress ancient-like clothes and just FEW differences from the real human. At least in therms of proportions, in contrast to the the deformed bodies of Mario, Luigi, Peach, Toon Link, Lucas or Ness. SSB have both of those human styles since the beginning, in Smash almost anything fits, the only thing i think that it would be out of place is a creepy deformed mutilated covered in blood monster of a Survival Horror game.
Also, you MUST hate Little Mac, he is even more Human than Snake. it could fit perfectly in any Generic fighting game.

 

[UltimateWario]

I don't really think Pac-Man's needed for it to be "perfect".

Neither would a lot of other people, if it weren't for Namco working on this game.

 

[Jason the Yoshi]

I don't really think we need PacMan in the game, I'd like it better if Snake returned to be honest

 

[Road Death Wheel]

Meh i don't think pac mans going to be in or is necessary. nor dose he fit in to be honest.

 

[the smash nerd]

Hay! Pac-Man in Not

 

[Swamp Sensei]

Hay! Pac-Man in Not

Look...

If all your posts are going to consist of "I hate Snake! He sucks!" then you should not post at all.

Try being more productive.

 

[Banjodorf]

What kind of person could hate Snake?

That said, I'm skeptical of his return this time, just so I won't be disappointed if he's not there.

Granted, these guys do represent perfect third party distribution, although if I can't have Snake, I'm going to make a VERY strong argument for Simon Belmont, who's arguably as important to Nintendo as Mega Man, and definitely more important than Sonic or Pac-Man.

 

[Road Death Wheel]

Snake is a must he is way too unique and an awesome realistic character compared to most of the cast.

That could very well be the reason why he gets the boot. People don't expect realistic character in smash nor really care

 

[3Bismyname]

nor dose he fit in to be honest.

care to elaborate. i see this all the time and not once has anyone given me a good reason why he "Doesnt fit."

 

[Road Death Wheel]

care to elaborate. i see this all the time and not once has anyone given me a good reason why he "Doesnt fit."

hmm i guess in the same way snake did not fit. basically it feels like a drift from the original goal for the selected characters sonic grew along and close to Nintendo but snake drifted off and became very different it more or less would be wired for such a character with such loose ends with Nintendo to actually make the game. (this is all opinionated of course.) Its not that i exactly don't want him in. but pack man did not evolve like the other characters most people i know don't even know he grew legs or has other games. I just think it would be bad publicity wise.

 

[3Bismyname]

hmm i guess in the same way snake did not fit. basically it feels like a drift from the original goal for the selected characters sonic grew along and close to Nintendo but snake drifted off and became very different it more or less would be wired for such a character with such loose ends with Nintendo to actually make the game. (this is all opinionated of course.) Its not that i exactly don't want him in. but pack man did not evolve like the other characters most people i know don't even know he grew legs or has other games. I just think it would be bad publicity wise.

ok so its not an aesthetic or moveset thing with u, its just the fact that he's 3rd party?

 

[Guybrush20X6]

I've heard a lot of people saying Pac-Man shouldn't be in as he's well past his prime.

To those people I say, he's in good company

Aw snap.

 

[Cobalsh]

What kind of person could hate Snake?

*raises hand*

Let me elaborate:
I don't hate Snake. I hate Snake in Smash. It's a game for Nintendo's All-Stars. Snake had only been in one Nintendo game in his series, but two overall. He isn't a Nintendo All-Star, no matter how you spin.

 

[BluePikmin11]

Oh and remember how the Namco Bandai isn't even listed in the bottom of the website, yeah... Pac-Man is confirmed.

 

[Marakatu]

Oh and remember how the Namco Bandai isn't even listed in the bottom of the website, yeah... Pac-Man is confirmed.

Well, neither was Sega, until Sonic was confirmed.

 

[lurxy]

I kind of hated the idea of Pacman being playable but the more I am reading here, the more i want him.

Especially because for me the only companies which deserve a fighter in Smash Bros are SEGA, Capcom, Konami, Namco and Square-Enix. All of them have had quite the history with Nintendo. And for me those five together with Nintendo are the big names of gaming.
Companies like Ubisoft, EA or Activision may be as old as these, but those five cleared the way for them.

For me Sonic, Megaman and Pacman are the most logical choice. If there will be another 3rd Party I hope it would be Simon Belmont. I liked Snake, but I always felt Simon would be the better choice. Imagine a NES Battle between Megaman, Simon Belmont, Pacman and Mario.

 

[Road Death Wheel]

ok so its not an aesthetic or moveset thing with u, its just the fact that he's 3rd party?

Basically but i can't really see an extravagant moveset ether but they surprised me with little mac

 

[the smash nerd]

Oh and remember how the Namco Bandai isn't even listed in the bottom of the website, yeah... Pac-Man is confirmed.

yeah it was revealed during a Nintendo Direct that Namco Bandai was the primary developer Of smash 4

 

[fill]

no metal gear for the wii u, i don't think there is going to be a snake...
but namco bandai working on the game, pacman already having games on the nintendo...he's in

april first they should show snakes box, then have pac-man come from underneath it

 

[SuperLuigiTheIntalian]

Well, this is just perfect. Having the 4 gaming icons fighting against each other will be a staple in history. There's absolutely NO WAY Namco can't acknowledge this. Look at this picture:

It looks so right...


(except it's wrong sizes. Too not canon size for Smash.)

Hey man it looks like our using my SSB4 pic from my old dA account

http://supermariofan54321.deviantar...Bros-Mario-Sonic-Pacman-and-megaman-398198596

 

[APC99]

Hey man it looks like our using my SSB4 pic from my old dA account

http://supermariofan54321.deviantar...Bros-Mario-Sonic-Pacman-and-megaman-398198596

I found it off Google, I didn't realize it was yours .

 

[The Real Gamer]

I like how this thread has pretty much turned into a 2nd Pacman support thread. xD

 

[praline]

I wouldn't want Pac Man... I just don't see it happening.

 

[Flaxr XIII]

Well, this is just perfect. Having the 4 gaming icons fighting against each other will be a staple in history. There's absolutely NO WAY Namco can't acknowledge this. Look at this picture:

It looks so right...


(except it's wrong sizes. Too not canon size for Smash.)

Sorry guy but I can't agree with you there. I just don't see it. I guess it's just personal preference though cuz I could easily put Bomberman or Rayman instead of Pacman and say it's a good setup.
Does there really need to be a 3rd Party Trifecta? This isn't Nintendo All Stars Battle Royale. It's just gonna take attention away from the great 1st party characters and franchises being represented.
And why do we need Pacman just to compliment Sonic and Megaman? Sonic sure as hell didn't compliment Snake back in Brawl to be the "Perfect 3rd Party Duo"
Either Simon Belmont, Bomberman, Rayman, or Professor Layton could represent 3rd parties better than Pacman can.

Or just bring Snake back and be done with it. Let's focus on the 1st parties people.

 

[pupNapoleon]

My personal ideal, which are all in a healthy number of ways relevent to nintendo;

-Sonic
-Megaman
-Bomberman
-Pacman
-Rayman
-Banjo Kazooie

No, I do not think that is too many in a very large roster, which, of course we are not getting in this game.

 

[SonicMario]

I like how this thread has pretty much turned into a 2nd Pacman support thread. xD

Well when Pac-Man is the only one in the title that's not confirmed...

 

[Road Death Wheel]

Well when Pac-Man is the only one in the title that's not confirmed...

you go to the pacman support thread then.

 

[Bauske]

Sorry guy but I can't agree with you there. I just don't see it. I guess it's just personal preference though cuz I could easily put Bomberman or Rayman instead of Pacman and say it's a good setup.
Does there really need to be a 3rd Party Trifecta? This isn't Nintendo All Stars Battle Royale. It's just gonna take attention away from the great 1st party characters and franchises being represented.
And why do we need Pacman just to compliment Sonic and Megaman? Sonic sure as hell didn't compliment Snake back in Brawl to be the "Perfect 3rd Party Duo"
Either Simon Belmont, Bomberman, Rayman, or Professor Layton could represent 3rd parties better than Pacman can.

Or just bring Snake back and be done with it. Let's focus on the 1st parties people.

The reason Sonic didn't compliment Snake in Brawl was because Snake was a really weird addition in the first place. He has nearly no history with Nintendo at all. It's just that his developer was friends with Sakurai. On the other hand, I feel Sonic and Mario compliment each other very well, as do MegaMan, Sonic, and Mario together.

Pac-Man, on the other hand, has a huge history with Nintendo, and delightfully fits well into the Nintendo universe. He's happy, colorful, animated, and good-natured. Plus Namco and Nintendo have worked together several times in the past.

Honestly, if anyone at this point is saying that Pac-Man is unlikely, they either haven't checked the facts or they're in denial. I'm not saying he's 100% confirmed, but I am saying he's the most likely third-party addition to the game right now.