Mayo Clinic: Over! The ingredients are in the bowl... Did the emulsion hold together, or did it break like so many crumbling Oreos?

[BarDulL]

Riddle me this:

Why would Shish shoot J? Shish was on J's good side, right? You were lower on the totem pole, yet you claim Shish shot J.

How does that even make sense? Why would Shish not shoot Kon?

 

[LoneKonWolf]

You're wrong, Kon.

I'm not, the fact shishoe came up mafia only confirms farther.

I'll be honest; I'm pretty surprised myself that I'm still alive considering J was taking aim at me, but there's one crucial thing we need to consider: the Moydow flip.

You lose all credibility there bardul.

J said he was going to shoot you. He carried out his thought with darkpit. And me and him do have similar shooting patterns. So i can be for 100% certainity that he did infact carry through to shoot you.

And the only possible thing you can be is a doctor, the only one. A doctor who can't heal themselves. J would shoot no one else. The very fact you are alive proves you are the serial killer.

J was operating under the assumption that Moydow was a likely villain. Given that Moydow flipped Town, it was clear from his point of view that two of the remaining non-claimed vig slots were scum. This changed the dynamic of the game and J had to operate on new assumptions.

There's no way for me to know with any sense of certainty why J decided to switch his shot, but he did.

We all were and to this moment i still am. Moydow played horribly deliberating acting like scum and getting frustrated through the hole they dug, its on them even though i have my own paths of blame of myself.

But it is quite clear regardless J saw bullcrap in you, if his throughts did disapate through a mislead, he wouldn't of shot Ura after the kanty lynch, and he wouldn't of shot darkpit from the maven lynch. His actions before justify hes shootings, there is no difference here.

Perhaps he felt he could trust me based on discourse,

No.

or perhaps he read the game over. Either way, I have absolutely no clue. It's all WIFOM.

I have no idea what WIFOM means.

Riddle me this: why do you think you are still alive? Why do you think you have not been killed at all despite having been a claimed vig? Who do you think was protecting you this entire time?

Because i was town read and a vig call. Nobody in their right mind would actually take the risk to shoot me. Letting me have the big mouth i want all i desire.

Other things to consider: why would I point to Shish as the likely goon as the SK? Why would I have tried to dissuade players from the Kantrip lynch? Why would I look over every nook and cranny while Pokechu silently stood in the background?

Pokechu was incredibly suspicious; you yourself felt Moydow was likely scum, and yet you find no fault with Pokechu's play? From your point of view, you have to agree that Moydow's play in general was suspicious and brought about an unwarranted devotion from Pokechu.

And still do believe moydow was scum. All signs pointed to it. Its baffling they aren't. But their death leads to you and shish. One of which is correct and plan to collect the other.

And its from that devotion from pokechu that confirms him completely. I had no faults. He even gave an actual defense that warranted moydow to live past day 2, pokechu actually knows the game extremely well from his stand point. Moydow death confirms pokechu from his already genuine no faults approach, and confirms shish and you are scum by process of elimination. And J's last words of shooting the day before nightfall confirms the details more.

 

[LoneKonWolf]

Riddle me this:

Why would Shish shoot J? Shish was on J's good side, right? You were lower on the totem pole, yet you claim Shish shot J.

How does that even make sense? Why would Shish not shoot Kon?

Because i trusted both you and shish.

The only one who leaned differently. Was J.

And since moydows suicide did not allow me to make my full thoughts clear, people acted based off what happened before nightfall.

Look at it from that angle and the death looks differently.

 

[LoneKonWolf]

I protected Kon, and I have to assume that either you or Shish shot Kon; I have to believe that you felt you had a better position in Lylo with J alive as opposed to Kon, whom I've shared an alliance with. for the better majority of the game.

Consider the alliance broken and the only reason i haven't voted you yet is because i wish to grind you to release pent up frustrations.

Pokechu do you want me to end this now and vote him?

 

[Pokechu]

Consider the alliance broken and the only reason i haven't voted you yet is because i wish to grind you to release pent up frustrations.

Pokechu do you want me to end this now and vote him?

Whenever is fine with me! I don't think majority lynch is active for the first twenty four hours anyways, right? I think the opening post for this phase said that

 

[BarDulL]

This is bizarre. You're not even letting me speak or have a discussion with you, you're just entering the day phase fully convinced that I'm scum as though it were mod confirmed and you're ready to end the day phase as though you know with some kind of certainty that I'm the SK.

Frankly, it is pretty weird.

 

[LoneKonWolf]

Wish it was instead. I don't plan on switching my vote.

Vote: bardul

The truth, no matter how hard it is to digest, is out with the sacrifices.

 

[BarDulL]

All I have to say is this: if you try to force a majority lynch, you will lose Town the game. You need to sit back and reconsider that you're wrong.

 

[BarDulL]

Well, we still have 22 hours, so............

I mean, you're not going to ask me anything? You're not going to entertain conversation whatsoever and just automatically assume I'm scum without even a second thought?

 

[LoneKonWolf]

This is bizarre. You're not even letting me speak or have a discussion with you, you're just entering the day phase fully convinced that I'm scum as though it were mod confirmed and you're ready to end the day phase as though you know with some kind of certainty that I'm the SK.

Frankly, it is pretty weird.

It was all labeled on out in the wall i had prepared.

Which i would like to remind, never came out to fruition thanks to moydow suicide.

J for certainty shot you, he said as much and his shooting patterns before were not influenced dued to the previous lynches making it unlikely.

Pokechu has no faults before, and now his devotion to moydow comes up clear and his defense in genuine.

Process of elimination comes down to you and shish, shish was the goon and you should of died if you were a doc and the fact you are alive proves you are sk.

That is all certainty that will not be budge.

 

[LoneKonWolf]

Well, we still have 22 hours, so............

I mean, you're not going to ask me anything? You're not going to entertain conversation whatsoever and just automatically assume I'm scum without even a second thought?

You have yet to counter claim anything i've proposed and labeled out to you and seem more focus to ask us "riddles" to differ the logic.

I've had plenty of time to think this over.

 

[BarDulL]

You're not even giving me time for rebuttal and are quickly trying to expedite the lynch as though you have mod-confirmed information, which shouldn't at all be possible.

I'll get to the rebuttal in a moment, but know that you're absolutely wrong.

 

[LoneKonWolf]

I don't have mod confirmed information. If you very much wish to see my role pm after the game your very much welcome to come into it. I thought well enough before i had chance to post and came to conclusions, Moydow confirmed pokechu who was already had no reason to come up disgust. That leaves process of elimination because neither of you two challenged J. J said he was to shoot you and his shooting patterns encourage that he does not change mind dued to results and he questioned you upon death. Shish came up as mafia encouraging that theory further.

I am frustrated with how this ended mostly dued to my own actions but no more, Moydow proves pokechu is innocent, as the only other person here that makes you confirmed guilty to me.

And by all means, give me something to tear down.

 

[BarDulL]

I'm not, the fact shishoe came up mafia only confirms farther.

You lose all credibility there bardul.

J said he was going to shoot you. He carried out his thought with darkpit. And me and him do have similar shooting patterns. So i can be for 100% certainity that he did infact carry through to shoot you.

And the only possible thing you can be is a doctor, the only one. A doctor who can't heal themselves. J would shoot no one else. The very fact you are alive proves you are the serial killer.

Kon, I know you think I'm this mastermind that played you, but that isn't the case. My protects were genuine, and there is a reason why you lived throughout all three night phases. If you think even for a moment that my protections were fake, you're fooling yourself and letting Pokechu pull the wool over your eyes.

There was a chance that the game could have ended the previous night. J had to make a decision regarding who he felt was likely to be scum, and he had to be careful about who he chose because otherwise the game would have ended. Why couldn't he have changed course given the circumstances? Why couldn't he have changed course and shot Shish alongside you? Why couldn't he have shot Pokechu, who I know to be the SK? You say he would never have changed course and that you are 100% sure of this, but I don't believe for a moment that you have come to this conclusion honestly.

We all were and to this moment i still am. Moydow played horribly deliberating acting like scum and getting frustrated through the hole they dug, its on them even though i have my own paths of blame of myself.

This is where things get interesting for us. By your own admission, Moydow "played horribly, deliberately acting like scum and getting frustrated," and yet you are directly contradicting yourself by finding absolutely no faults in Pokechu's play; Pokechu finding innocence in Moydow was faked. This is a contradiction that should not at all exist, but for some reason, it does exist, and I do not believe that you have honestly come to the conclusion you have come to based within the confines of the game.

But it is quite clear regardless J saw bullcrap in you, if his throughts did disapate through a mislead, he wouldn't of shot Ura after the kanty lynch, and he wouldn't of shot darkpit from the maven lynch. His actions before justify hes shootings, there is no difference here.

Then why would J even bother asking me questions about Moydow? J was still developing his read and was not set in stone with any certainty. You act as though there's no way J would ever change his shot, but how can you know this with any sense of certainty? You can't. You're throwing the game because you have this tunnel vision of what happened when in reality it was absolutely something else. The fact that you aren't considering all the avenues is bizarre.

No.

I have no idea what WIFOM means.

Yes.

WIFOM means "Wine In Front of Me." Basically, we can endlessly speculate all night about what J did, BUT J, FOR WHATEVER REASON, DIDN'T SHOOT ME! How the heck should I know why J didn't shoot me?!?!

Because i was town read and a vig call. Nobody in their right mind would actually take the risk to shoot me. Letting me have the big mouth i want all i desire.

Wrong. You were protected by me all three nights.

And still do believe moydow was scum. All signs pointed to it. Its baffling they aren't. But their death leads to you and shish. One of which is correct and plan to collect the other.

Which, again, I need to reiterate: IF YOU THOUGHT MOYDOW WAS SCUM, then WHY ISN'T POKECHU'S BEHAVIOR SUSPICIOUS?! It literally makes no sense. You are giving Pokechu a pass because they found Moydow to be innocent when in reality

And its from that devotion from pokechu that confirms him completely. I had no faults. He even gave an actual defense that warranted moydow to live past day 2, pokechu actually knows the game extremely well from his stand point. Moydow death confirms pokechu from his already genuine no faults approach, and confirms shish and you are scum by process of elimination. And J's last words of shooting the day before nightfall confirms the details more.

This literally doesn't make sense. I was on board with you this entire time and had legitimate reasoning for doing so, and yet you are convinced that Pokechu's unyielding faith in a player you found to be incredibly scummy is proof that Pokechu is Town. That literally doesn't make sense and I don't believe that you've come to this conclusion honestly.

Basically what you're saying is that Pokechu is innocent because he believed in Moydow, but I am somehow not innocent despite having believed in you with genuine reasoning. It is quite literally the same thing but you are somehow drawing a conclusion seemingly arbitrarily.

Frankly, I don't think you can explain to me, or the green room for that matter, all these contradictions in your behavior.

 

[BarDulL]

I don't have mod confirmed information. If you very much wish to see my role pm after the game your very much welcome to come into it. I thought well enough before i had chance to post and came to conclusions, Moydow confirmed pokechu who was already had no reason to come up disgust. That leaves process of elimination because neither of you two challenged J. J said he was to shoot you and his shooting patterns encourage that he does not change mind dued to results and he questioned you upon death. Shish came up as mafia encouraging that theory further.

I am frustrated with how this ended mostly dued to my own actions but no more, Moydow proves pokechu is innocent, as the only other person here that makes you confirmed guilty to me.

And by all means, give me something to tear down.

I don't know why else you are so convinced and sure of yourself. You are literally trying to quick hammer without ANY KIND OF DISCOURSE. You are just assuming a single possibility and running with it. There is absolutely no doubt in your mind that Pokechu is scum despite me tearing apart your entire wall for believing that to be the case.

Again, why would Shish shoot J when J was town reading Shish? It would have been better for Shish to shoot you. Please explain to me why Shish didn't shoot you; why did Shish have to shoot J? Prove it to me with absolute certainty.

 

[BarDulL]

EBWOP:

Which, again, I need to reiterate: IF YOU THOUGHT MOYDOW WAS SCUM, then WHY ISN'T POKECHU'S BEHAVIOR SUSPICIOUS?! It literally makes no sense. You are giving Pokechu a pass because they found Moydow to be innocent when in reality

When in reality, Pokechu's unwieldy behavior was unfounded and almost arbitrary.*

There is absolutely no doubt in your mind that Pokechu is scum despite me tearing apart your entire wall for believing that to be the case..

Pokechu is Town*

 

[LoneKonWolf]

Kon, I know you think I'm this mastermind that played you, but that isn't the case. My protects were genuine, and there is a reason why you lived throughout all three night phases. If you think even for a moment that my protections were fake, you're fooling yourself and letting Pokechu pull the wool over your eyes.

I don't think trying to appeal to emotion towards the person who decided to start the day with calling you a son of a ******* is the most wise move in the world.

Also appealing to emotion making me think your claims justifies your survival isn't the best either. The reason why i survived this long is mostly because the mafia has wished to either not attack me in fear of not thinking they'll gather a kill or rather i survived. And the latter is not solely you if that even came to fruition.

And since the evidence leads to you being an enemy of the town, then yes all your protections must be fake. And about how your constantly forcing the idea that you protect me is continuous your best bet to appeal to nature.

There was a chance that the game could have ended the previous night. J had to make a decision regarding who he felt was likely to be scum, and he had to be careful about who he chose because otherwise the game would have ended. Why couldn't he have changed course given the circumstances? Why couldn't he have changed course and shot Shish alongside you? Why couldn't he have shot Pokechu, who I know to be the SK? You say he would never have changed course and that you are 100% sure of this, but I don't believe for a moment that you have come to this conclusion honestly.

indeed, and I made the same fear that it could of had the mafia and sk killed two of us. Instead shishoe who I shot and killed died, along with J.

And i have, considering i was able to predict his movements from day 1 without even knowing who he was, If a kantry mislynch didn't dissuade him against his pick off of ura and opossum, and if a maven mislynch didn't dissuade him against darkpit, then since he believed he that you were suspicious especially in the face of a moydow mislynch then there is no reason to doubt since he didn't do so before. I believe he came to a similar conclusion i have now and thats the reason hes dead so that he won't be able to spill such words and lynch you alongside pokechu.

And the very fact your still alive and not a dead doctor proves his final silence that you are an sk.

This is where things get interesting for us. By your own admission, Moydow "played horribly, deliberately acting like scum and getting frustrated," and yet you are directly contradicting yourself by finding absolutely no faults in Pokechu's play; Pokechu finding innocence in Moydow was faked. This is a contradiction that should not at all exist, but for some reason, it does exist, and I do not believe that you have honestly come to the conclusion you have come to based within the confines of the game.

They did. From this:

Welp. Not sure if there's much I can do to dig myself out of this mess, but here goes nothing.

Not going to bother making too many excuses for the ****show that was my day 1 performance. I was actually busy and not able to pay much attention to here, but that's not going to convince anyone. If nothing else I at least understand the problem, so I'll try not to let it happen again.

I will admit I wanted to observe to some extent how suspicious people would find me if I contributed little (since Kon at least has said he interprets me being quiet to mean me being scum), to which it turns out the answer is "very". I know that's not really very town-friendly and is entirely self-serving, but I'd just put it down to wanting to observe and understand the game better.

I won't ask anyone to apologise if I get lynched and turn up clean, since that'll all be on me; obviously I know you're going to get nowhere by removing me, but of course I would say that either way.

I'm not going to be around for most of today so I won't be able to contribute much today either; if you want to just lynch me to get rid of someone who isn't able to do much, then that's fine by me, or I can just drop out and let someone else take over. I was rather hoping we'd have at least 48 hour phases for this (don't think it was mentioned before the game started that phases were 24 hours, if I'd known that before the game started I wouldn't have signed up), but oh well.

They wanted to observe how people would react if they do the same scum tells i told them to their face, they did deliberately acted like scum and it got worst as the two scum flips patterns match exactly how they played. They dug their own hole on purpose and had to suffer through it, I honestly don't feel remorse for if you want to act like scum then do so.

Pokechu on the other hand hasn't.

Moydow seems pretty genuine to me, I think she only seems out of character because she hasn't been town in a real mafia environment yet. She was a mafia in FE's game, the cultist in White's, and then we had Popcorn afterwards. She hasn't needed to worry about votes as a townie because she's never been town in a voting environment. Her posts are really authentic to me, and I think she's trying to make do with what she has, given how she was expecting 48 hour phases but really got 24.

One thing I've always liked about Moydow is how she can metagame. She's always the one to contribute with pieces of evidence such as this



Even in her first appearance in FE's game she was putting evidence together as a mafia. Her town game was REALLY good. Her offering theories like this, which Kon shut down

is just her being in-character.

I see no reason to target Moydow. Just because she's followed similar patterns as Opo/Ura doesn't mean she has to be the third mafia. I think it's obvious she's townie, and she's in fact the one I'm townreading most right now. Barney just got dethroned LOL



Could you explain what you mean by this? Assuming that Moy is town and she said that, I don't think it's smudging you or Barney because she said that she was fine with the both of you. And obviously if she flipped SK/Mafia goon we would see she was just trying to take you guys under with her.






I'm curious, why do you say this? You are the most active person, but it's this exact same line of thinking that may lead to your death; "I'm sure someone else already protected him, let me protect X!"

I can agree with this though.

One thing I found strange was during yesterDay I checked his activity and it said he was in a private conversation; for someone whose last post before this game started was Sept 8., and before that in August 2017, I don't know who he could be PMing besides his scummates.

Combing through some posts now, some of the questions I had I realized had already been answered RIP

He actually gave a proper defense for someone who couldn't themselves and gave me enough to step back. On day 3 i scoured through the thread to find tells that pokechu was hiding something, and i can't find one. Pokechu for point to point has been acting like his atypical regular town self.

Pokechu gains little to finding moydow innocent, and in fact encouraging moydow to been lynched on day 2 would have benefited sk more as that would of continued confusion for the town.

Something i'll like to point out, you had.

Ehhhh.

Yeah, actually, I think Moydow is a good direction. I kind of wish scum hadn't died so early because Opossum and Ura really hadn't formed many connections, but I think this is a good avenue of approach nonetheless.

Vote: Moydow

I would be interested in hearing more from other slots though if they feel there is a better avenue. Would really like to see more from @Darkpit54 @Maven89 Pokechu

This is subjective really. As we all thought the same thing besides pokechu, But its just more to pile on.

Then why would J even bother asking me questions about Moydow? J was still developing his read and was not set in stone with any certainty. You act as though there's no way J would ever change his shot, but how can you know this with any sense of certainty? You can't. You're throwing the game because you have this tunnel vision of what happened when in reality it was absolutely something else. The fact that you aren't considering all the avenues is bizarre.

Wouldn't be the first time i've risked things in balance for how the ball tells me. I'll follow where the evidence and patterns leads me and i'll take my gut.

I have considered all avenues for a whole day, Because to remind again, the day got cut short then it was suppose to and i was not able to post all the work. This is the pattern that makes most sense to me, and following it leads to pokechus innocence and your guilt.

J developed his lead and shot you in wake of moydow mislynch through the moment, that is why he encouraged your shooting and was shooting down your reads of being a town member.

The patterns show i'll take it with certainty and see where they lead me.

Yes.

No.

WIFOM means "Wine In Front of Me." Basically, we can endlessly speculate all night about what J did, BUT J, FOR WHATEVER REASON, DIDN'T SHOOT ME! How the heck should I know why J didn't shoot me?!?!

Understood. And no, a possible answer is indeed what i suggested, he did shot you but you can't die at night ergo you survive, that is a possibility until you flip. And you are the most likely for him to have shot, and given his shooting patterns he would show no sign of disclose in turning away from it. J did shoot you, nothing else would make sense given the pattern for the results shown on Day 2 and Day 3.

Wrong. You were protected by me all three nights.

Again, you throw this around thinking it makes a difference? Do you expect a thank you? Appreciation? There is nothing standing here that you have told anything of the truth there. There was 5 docs at Night 1, one of which could of healed the mafia or sk target if they did so. And there were still 4 at night 2.

You make it sound like you soley are the reason i have survived, when there is mass here, and at the same time i'm an unlikely choice to have even been in the cross fire in the first place. Because of the exact same reason, I was heavily town read, and i came out as a vig, Numbers dropping matters more than my head, especially since i'm a killer myself who has to take a life. It is more beneficial to target someone else making your literally insistance in protecting me nothing but meaningless emotion.

Which, again, I need to reiterate: IF YOU THOUGHT MOYDOW WAS SCUM, then WHY ISN'T POKECHU'S BEHAVIOR SUSPICIOUS?! It literally makes no sense. You are giving Pokechu a pass because they found Moydow to be innocent when in reality

Do we need to label it out to you?

There was only one mafia, and only one sk. There is no accordance in protecting, only town has any benefit to do so. Mafia pretty much couldn't win, and shishoe died as the goon, who was the only person who had any benefit to defend was town. And as i said again, pokechu gave literal defense in attempting to help instead of giving faux.

I've combed head and toe for pokechus posts, he is playing exactly as a town pokechu, its awkward and weird, but its done in literal best town intent. That is why its not suspicious, and with moydow coming up as innocent gives me the certainty to trust pokechu.

This literally doesn't make sense. I was on board with you this entire time and had legitimate reasoning for doing so, and yet you are convinced that Pokechu's unyielding faith in a player you found to be incredibly scummy is proof that Pokechu is Town. That literally doesn't make sense and I don't believe that you've come to this conclusion honestly.

Basically what you're saying is that Pokechu is innocent because he believed in Moydow, but I am somehow not innocent despite having believed in you with genuine reasoning. It is quite literally the same thing but you are somehow drawing a conclusion seemingly arbitrarily.

Its more than unyielding faith thats making me town read him. As you are ignoring anything else to throw against.

You are not innocent because what town read you, was literal mafia. Shishoe was literally the main reason why i trusted you as town for as far as i did. And him coming up as scum rewrites all of that. Moydow made a good point before their death that mafia couldn't win. Its quite possible shishoe discovered you to be sk, perhaps initially believing you to be a town and then backstabbing you later, and used a mafia kill against you and found you not dead and possibly took that as discovery that you are sk. And decided to side with you to give you victory as they couldn't. Though thats skeptical and throws into unrelated points.

My conclusion seemingly very well to me whether or not you find it insane.

Frankly, I don't think you can explain to me, or the green room for that matter, all these contradictions in your behavior.

Cool beans, means i can save my breath and pick your flip apart and see if you are third party. If you are town you can mock me for the rest of my life, for I am that determined and faith in pokechu to see you through.

I don't know why else you are so convinced and sure of yourself. You are literally trying to quick hammer without ANY KIND OF DISCOURSE. You are just assuming a single possibility and running with it.

I've come across several possiblities to myself over a course of a day that which we were unable to post here, and this is the conclusion that seems accurate to me given all i read.

There is absolutely no doubt in your mind that Pokechu is scum despite me tearing apart your entire wall for believing that to be the case.

Yup.

Again, why would Shish shoot J when J was town reading Shish? It would have been better for Shish to shoot you. Please explain to me why Shish didn't shoot you; why did Shish have to shoot J? Prove it to me with absolute certainty.

Because J was the most troubling one from the posts that were given in the thread. As J gave ideal to suspecting you and possibly finding less with pokechu, considering me the more dupable than him making him more dangerous to his survival.

The reason J died. Is because he came out the most harmful and threatened to thinking differently.

Now then i imagine you'll throw some part that saying pokechus claim to docing J confirms him that hes lying for then J would be alive.

To which i would like to say, why would pokechu even bother to claim such an action? If he was sk, wouldn't it be better to claim to have doc'd someone who did not die? Its inane to even come out to say it, yet he said it wthout doubt

I protected J and he still died. N1 I protected Kon, N2 it was Moy.

This shows that both the SK and the goon targeted J with a kill.

Who was he suspicious of? Not me. He was suspicious of you.

Any reasonable person would claim to have healed me. Yet he still said it anyway. Theres no reason to lie about that because its unbelievable. And that just continues to go along the line pokechu is genuine, as in typical atypical way.

I'll stick with it, till the end, even if you find it unfounded and mis-sense.

 

[BarDulL]

My general assessment of this LyLo phase:

In the previous day phase, J had suggested he would shoot me, but was also open to considering alternative avenues as was outlined in the same post.

Considering that Pokechu has been a very quiet voice throughout the game, sitting in the background, finding a read on a single player that no one else had attained, Pokechu is the perfect puzzle piece to be the SK. It is easy to think that Pokechu played a very passive game while being just vocal enough not to come off as "ghosting." It would be easy to think that Pokechu was doing this because he didn't want to attract attention to himself.

Additionally, Pokechu still hasn't revealed who they protected on the previous two nights and has come up with convenient excuses for why this happens to be the case, specifically that he "didn't want to respond because he was annoyed." Where is the Town intent in not revealing this information? Why is this a believable excuse?

Meanwhile, I have played a pretty straightforward game; I was vocal, voiced my reads and opinions, and never stood in the background. I got into conversations with multiple players, put myself in the line of fire, and stuck by my claims. I outed many of my reads while voicing dissent on other wagons. Meanwhile Pokechu has but one strong read to his name and a couple mislynches. I also have sensibly abided by my claim of having protected LoneKonWolf, and the narrative supports it: LoneKonWolf never died while I had voiced in the thread that I would be protecting him. If I was the SK, this is an incredible gamble for me to make as it really would not make sense for me to not protect LoneKonWolf a third night. Given that Shish had no reason to kill off J while J was town reading him, the likelihood of making a determination that Shish somehow shot J alongside myself is a leap of faith to assume; why wouldn't Shish shoot LoneKonWolf?

I also brought attention to Shish, who I believed to be a possible candidate to be the goon. As the SK, I do not believe it makes much sense to out the goon, or even actively scum hunt for that matter. Which, again, fits the narrative for an SK Pokechu, who did not scum hunt very much if at all.

From LoneKonWolf's point of view, if he is playing an honest game, there should be plenty of room for doubt as to who the SK actually is. However, there simply isn't any room at all for doubt. He is convinced, presumably in the absence of mod-confirmed information, that I am the only one that can be the SK. There is absolutely no room for doubt at all.

In all my years of playing Mafia, I have never once encountered this type of situation, where a player is so eagerly convinced to lynch in LyLo when there should otherwise be plenty of room for doubt. There is not a single question in this player's mind that I am anything but the SK.

I have no further comment to make in this regard, and await post-game.

 

[Pokechu]

specifically that he "didn't want to respond because he was annoyed."

can you tell me when I said this

a couple mislynches

can you list these mislynches

 

[BarDulL]

I am not interested in playing this game anymore, as I do not believe this has been a natural playthrough. However, I will bring up the posts you are referencing since it reinforces my point:

barney, you really should think before you talk

because I have a lot of words for you

You've been nothing but nasty this whole game

or because I actually have a lot of work, that's a possibility :I

What's the point of replying to someone so stubborn that they'd outright admit they won't believe me before I say anything? If you want to act so confident in knowing MY actions, tell us, why should I even bother responding when you say things like this?

This post implies you are annoyed with my opinions of your slot, and the bolded is specifically what I was referring to.

yeah I think it's a Maven lynch toDay

Showing favor, or perhaps indifference and no resistance, towards a Maven lynch while not actually voting for him.

Most suspect I'll say the RNG voters. I'll say Moy is most suspicious because she was the first to use RNG as her kill in Cop Doc Kill

Most townie I'll go out on a limb and say Barney because he seems in character from other games and also because I've read the most of his posts compared to everyone else

Could also be Kantrip since he hopped on me really quick but I have been the most inactive

However their reasoning of "those lynches wouldn't get us anything" also applies to me because no one could create a read on me yet

Oh

Ebwop

Most suspicious for kan

These two posts seem to be putting forward support of a Kantrip lynch. You did not show any resistance towards either of these lynches and let them go through.

 

[Pokechu]

This post implies you are annoyed with my opinions of your slot, and the bolded is specifically what I was referring to.

That's NOTHING close to "I didn't respond because I was annoyed." I'm not the problem, you are. I already stated how I was busy, anyways.

Showing favor, or perhaps indifference and no resistance, towards a Maven lynch while not actually voting for him.

I had already said that day that I didn't think we should lynch Maven. That post comes from a string where I tried to deduct the lynch for that day. It came after deadline too so you're purposely taking my posts out of context LOL

It's two on Darkpit

one on Maven

Oh yeaaaah

Two on Maven one on Pit

I can't count

I just did a thread search and the posts toDay were everywhere OOF

yeah I think it's a Maven lynch toDay

These two posts seem to be putting forward support of a Kantrip lynch. You did not show any resistance towards either of these lynches and let them go through.

I didn't place my vote on him, and those posts came at a time when I wasn't even fully up to date on the thread. That's not supporting a Kantrip lynch, that's just saying I thought he was the most suspect because I didn't know everything that had gone on and his reasoning of "this lynch wouldn't get us information" was faulty.

Compared to yourself, where you decided to lynch Moy (a town). You say that you suspecting Shish makes you look innocent, but you were convinced that Moy and I were working together as the last two anti-towns. You can't have it both ways.

You're either scum, or your sense of towniness is skewed.

 

[BarDulL]

What you don’t seem to understand is that you are providing excuses of convenience. “Oh, I wasn’t here for that. I wasn’t up to date on the thread. I was at work.” These are great excuses for an SK to just ghost the thread and skim. If you can’t see why someone might be suspicious of you for doing that, then you are naive.

But, like I said, I’m uninterested in this game. As proof:

Unvote

I have no intention of pursuing a win under these conditions.

 

[BarDulL]

#HBC | Nabe If the other two players are in agreement that the lynch should be expedited, then I have no qualms. Let’s not drag this out further.

Sound good Pokechu ?

 

[Pokechu]

Yeeet!

Sounds dandy to me! :^)

 

[BarDulL]

 

[Fire Emblemier]

Gheb, is that you?

 

[#HBC | Nabe]

And finally, make sure that you've got an abundance of salt prepared, as we'll be salting this one to taste.

 

[#HBC | Nabe]

Alright, I know where the flavour is going, it's just not in me tonight. Flavour drops tomorrow.

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[#HBC | Nabe]

what does it mean​

 

[Natz~]

...yaaaaaa i'm not fully sure how to think of that ending there :V

 

[BarDulL]

Oreos with mayonnaise will turn you into a serial killer. Stay woke fam.

 

[BarDulL]

Green room por favor!

 

[giraffelasergun]

Green room por favor!

me too thanks

 

[Pokechu]

since we haven't gotten green room invites

It's really not cool how you played this game, BarDulL . You insulted my gameplay (along with J's) multiple times. I wasn't as active as I could've been because you were being a bully; it made the game not fun for me to get repeatedly insulted for doing absolutely nothing.

Who has a track record for being wrong?

I don't have anything close to a "track record for being wrong" so I don't know where that came from.

This is different from villainizing because you're supposed to do that; we were enemies, after all. But when you just say we should lynch me for fun, when you insult my ability to make reads, and then just act hypocritical (you were flaming me for not budging on you, but you wouldn't budge on me???),

 

[Pokechu]

PHOOEY

that wasn't supposed to have sent

dumb hotkeys what the hecccccck

 

[BarDulL]

If I say that "you have a track record for being wrong," that doesn't necessarily make it true. Misrepresentation is a part of Mafia and, I admit, I was trying to turn you into a villain. That's just a part of the game. I drew SK, so it's a part of my job to try and get other people lynched. No hard feelings.

 

[BarDulL]

Oh yeah, when I said "track record for being wrong," I was referring explicitly to this game, I was not making a blanket statement about you personally. I don't do that sort of thing.

Edit: saying you have a track record for being wrong implies a possibility that you are scum intentionally misreading people. I was trying to make you suspicious, lol.

 

[Pokechu]

siiiiiigh

since we haven't gotten green room invites

It's really not cool how you played this game, BarDulL . You insulted my gameplay (along with J's) multiple times. I wasn't as active as I could've been because you were being a bully; it made the game not fun for me to get repeatedly insulted for doing absolutely nothing.
I don't have anything close to a "track record for being wrong" so I don't know where that came from.

This is different from villainizing because you're supposed to do that; we were enemies, after all. But when you just say we should lynch me for fun, when you insult my ability to make reads, and then just act hypocritical (you were flaming me for not budging on you, but you wouldn't budge on me???),

and then just act hypocritical, it's not a good look, honestly.*

his unconditional and faithful devotion to Moydow was, in my opinion, an exemplary example of why he played (no offense to him) badly in Poison Mutton mafia

Anyone want to just lynch Pokechu for fun? :^)

Pokechu’s sense of towniness IMO is pretty skewed

It's really not fun waking up or coming back to these posts when they're not civil at all. You yourself didn't like how for the first few games here you were the one constantly getting out first, yet you're going to encourage a lynch onto me "for fun"; that's not funny or humorous, that's just being a bully. You just continuously relied on bringing up things from past games to make me look bad, even going as far as saying that

He was in a house by himself, but you blindly just trusted his win condition without a second thought. It’s easy to say in hindsight that defending him was fair game but you didn’t remotely question the integrity of his claim. It’s just odd is all.

me defending vaan in GoT could be compared to a mistake. How dare I side with someone just out of pure trust??? That's almost an attack on my character at this point.

It's not cool, because I know as scum I never did any of this, I never tried to put another player down. We might be enemies but I don't think that's grounds to say all of this. Saying my sense of towniness is skewed? Saying I have a track record for being wrong? That I should be lynched for fun? That stuff hurts and it's not fun to play with or against.

 

[LoneKonWolf]

If it means anything at least pokechu i at least upheld your faith in me. Not sure if that matters anything.

Anyway single-mindness strategy of pattern oriented and working through killed moydow on my hands. And probably fire. But at least it did get the sk.

Just wish to drink a cup of joe now.

 

[BarDulL]

siiiiiigh
and then just act hypocritical, it's not a good look, honestly.*




It's really not fun waking up or coming back to these posts when they're not civil at all. You yourself didn't like how for the first few games here you were the one constantly getting out first, yet you're going to encourage a lynch onto me "for fun"; that's not funny or humorous, that's just being a bully. You just continuously relied on bringing up things from past games to make me look bad, even going as far as saying that

me defending vaan in GoT could be compared to a mistake. How dare I side with someone just out of pure trust??? That's almost an attack on my character at this point.

It's not cool, because I know as scum I never did any of this, I never tried to put another player down. We might be enemies but I don't think that's grounds to say all of this. Saying my sense of towniness is skewed? Saying I have a track record for being wrong? That I should be lynched for fun? That stuff hurts and it's not fun to play with or against.

Edit: lol it was late/I was sleepy and so I was a bit repetitive in some parts in this scuffed exclusive video but hopefully I got my point across D: