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Skyshroud

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Wow, you can hax a game to make you play better.
It has nothing to do with making them better. They are just making the game more offensive. Way to accuse people of haxing without knowing what you're talking about.
 

ChronoTrigga

Smash Apprentice
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It has nothing to do with making them better. They are just making the game more offensive. Way to accuse people of haxing without knowing what you're talking about.
The developers made it the way it was for a reason. Why not enjoy it for what it is? I enjoy melee & both brawl. But I don't hax em. L-cancel was a glitch in melee, and they fixed it. You hax a game so you can exploit a glitch? Geeeeee.
 

Skyshroud

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The developers made it the way it was for a reason. Why not enjoy it for what it is? I enjoy melee & both brawl. But I don't hax em. L-cancel was a glitch in melee, and they fixed it. You hax a game so you can exploit a glitch? Geeeeee.
Lol, still clinging to those guns? L-canceling was a toned down version of S-canceling from SSB64. The only thing that could be argued to be a glitch would be wavedashing, which still remains unknown. They modified the game to make it play better in a more competitive environment. You have no right to attack people for playing the way they want to play. That's the whole reason why the competitive vs. casual argument will never end. Just drop it.
 

ChronoTrigga

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First of all, you're overreacting and taking this way to seriously. I could care less what you think is considerred a glitch and what is not. L-cancelling, wavedashing, etc. They are all things that the developers didn't intend to put in the game. They corrected it with brawl, changed up the game so people wouldn't be so easily exploited w/ endless barrages of 0-to-kill combo's. I wasn't attacking his playing preferrence at all. In fact, I'd like to play Brawl + myself. Taken, stirred, and dropped.
 

metaXzero

Smash Champion
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The developers made it the way it was for a reason. Why not enjoy it for what it is? I enjoy melee & both brawl. But I don't hax em. L-cancel was a glitch in melee, and they fixed it. You hax a game so you can exploit a glitch? Geeeeee.
The developers made Brawl the way it is to tell competitive gamers to f**k off. Why should we care whats intended? And L-cancel wasn't a glitch at ALL. It was a modified version of "Smooth Landing" from SSB64.

Man I hate stupid posts like this...

EDIT: They were removed to make Brawl a simplistic, shallow, and uncompetitive game. And only SSB64 had "barrages of 0-death combos".

Just leave this thread.
 

metaXzero

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lol you guys are obviously ******* who can't handle other peoples opinions.
And now you are just trolling.

We can't handle idiots who come into threads saying crap like "you need hax to be good", "play the game as it is" and "L-cancel was a glitch". It shows ignorance and idiocy.

EDIT: Skyshroud yeah
 

ChronoTrigga

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Wow, you can hax a game to make you play better.
That's exactly what I typed. I did not say anything of the sort of what you believed I said. I mentionted the fact, that he can hack a game (change it), to make the characters he played as, play better. I didn't degrade him in anyway what so ever.

We can't handle idiots who come into threads saying crap like "you need hax to be good", "play the game as it is" and "L-cancel was a glitch" It shows ignorance and idiocy.
You guys are the ones attacking if anything. To say that l-cancelling and/or any similiar button techniques not developed on purpose by the developers is a sign of aggressive ignorance. You know it is, but since it's widely used by everyone you don't consider it a glitch. lol I'm not trolling, I'm stating the truth. It's all my opinion anyways. You can just ignore me if you'd like. Or reply in a endless argument in where you cannot make me change my opinion. Picked up, and dropped again.

Let's stop spamming up their thread. I'm sending you a PM.
I don't care. ;)

Increase your e-peens all you want. A glitch is a glitch.
 

Denzi

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lol Melee vs. Brawl debate within two pages. :laugh:

I suppose brawl+ matches are fun to watch (not necessarily better than reg. Brawl matches), but they're never something I would want to do myself.
 

ChronoTrigga

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Brawl+ makes the game less exciting IMO after watching the videos. Just watching people float in the air when they could be dodging makes it seem stupid. Still fun to watch but makes it seem really slow pace. =/
 

Osi

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First of all, you're overreacting and taking this way to seriously. I could care less what you think is considerred a glitch and what is not. L-cancelling, wavedashing, etc. They are all things that the developers didn't intend to put in the game. They corrected it with brawl, changed up the game so people wouldn't be so easily exploited w/ endless barrages of 0-to-kill combo's. I wasn't attacking his playing preferrence at all. In fact, I'd like to play Brawl + myself. Taken, stirred, and dropped.
I'm sorry but L canceling is not a bug... When any company tests a new game the first thing they do is go over their old DB and regress any possible issues. They also check the current known bugs found after release on the old platform. SSB 64 had cancels too, so you know it was the first thing checked before they did any ad-hoc testing. I wouldn't even be surprised if they had test cases made to check for all known issues at release. Wavedashing may in fact be a bug, but we will not know that for sure.

Brawl+ is easier to combo, that's a fact because brawl had little to offer in that respect. Brawl was built to avoid combos and promote fair play without the user being locked into a hard to escape chain(notice just hard, not impossible). I'm not here to debate whether brawl's lack of hitstun kills how deep/competitive it is or anything. Combos are a large part of most fighting games, and it's not like brawl+ adds a ton of 0% inescapable strings. It simply adds more incentive for offense when done properly and displays the level between users a bit better IMO.


Brawl+ makes the game less exciting IMO after watching the videos. Just watching people float in the air when they could be dodging makes it seem stupid. Still fun to watch but makes it seem really slow pace. =/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5B-0DzLJVHo
^that looks slower to you?

Anyways, nice video Kupo, good as always.
 

Skyshroud

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You guys are the ones attacking if anything. To say that l-cancelling and/or any similiar button techniques not developed on purpose by the developers is a sign of aggressive ignorance. You know it is, but since it's widely used by everyone you don't consider it a glitch. lol I'm not trolling, I'm stating the truth. It's all my opinion anyways. You can just ignore me if you'd like. Or reply in a endless argument in where you cannot make me change my opinion. Picked up, and dropped again.
Really?

ChronoTrigga said:
The developers made it the way it was for a reason. Why not enjoy it for what it is? I enjoy melee & both brawl. But I don't hax em. L-cancel was a glitch in melee, and they fixed it. You hax a game so you can exploit a glitch? Geeeeee.
Who's attacking who?

Like I already said, if you want to continue this, take it to a PM, but since you don't seem to want to continue it in PMs, you just spam this thread. You can attack anyone all you want in private, but throwing jabs in public to try and demean someone is just ********. Take your trolling elsewhere.
 

metaXzero

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lol Melee vs. Brawl debate within two pages. :laugh:

I suppose brawl+ matches are fun to watch (not necessarily better than reg. Brawl matches), but they're never something I would want to do myself.
It wasn't Melee vs. Brawl. It's some idiot calling L-cancel a glitch and we shouldn't hack.
 

ChronoTrigga

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Oh yeah, I'm sure the developers wanted to put in landing lag only to have it cancelled by a single button press. That's certainly not a glitch. You're the one's getting all butthurt over my opinion/truth. You also the one's who are demeaning, calling my posts "Stupid" and "Ignorant" when I'm just trying to state my opinion on the matter. I'm not saying this to "Troll" you either, if you can't see that then ignore my posts.
 

Skyshroud

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Oh yeah, I'm sure the developers wanted to put in landing lag only to have it cancelled by a single button press. That's certainly not a glitch. You're the one's getting all butthurt over my opinion/truth. You also the one's who are demeaning, calling my posts "Stupid" and "Ignorant" when I'm just trying to state my opinion on the matter. I'm not saying this to "Troll" you either, if you can't see that then ignore my posts.
It's not an opinion because it is a FACT that L-canceling was intentional.

I'm putting you on ignore, feel free to do the same.
 

ChronoTrigga

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So they have it in the instruction manual that you can cancel landing lag by shielding before you hit the ground? Must have skipped that part. Kinda makes it pointless to put any landing lag in the game at all.
 

metaXzero

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So they have it in the instruction manual that you can cancel landing lag by shielding before you hit the ground? Must have skipped that part. Kinda makes it pointless to put any landing lag in the game at all.
They have it on the freaking Japanese site for SSB64 as "Smooth Landing". And you are ignoring that in Melee, it was modified to reduce half of lag (64's canceled ALL lag). If you can't accept that L-cancel was intentional, I'm gonna follow Skyshrouds example.
 

kupo15

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So they have it in the instruction manual that you can cancel landing lag by shielding before you hit the ground? Must have skipped that part. Kinda makes it pointless to put any landing lag in the game at all.
Read the manual and you will find it.

I know it is just as annoying to me as it is you to see noob brawl fanboys trying to tell us we don't know what we are talking about, but we should just ignore him. I didn't mean to start a flamewar in my brawl+ combo vid lol

I hope the noobs who hate brawl+ would leave us alone. We are not bothering you so stop bothering us.

On a lighter note, thanks for the comments! :bee:
Brawl just got a little more serious.
And to think this is just the start
Yay! Keep'em coming.

You 2 sure love Falcon on Ike action lol
lol I love fighting ike and yea, this was just highlights from our day. He also like Zelda but idk, he likes Ike. At least Ike is somewhat good now
 
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