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Mastering Falco leads to SSBM greatness!

kashikomarimashita

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For some reason most SSMB players do not understand the potential of Falco. He is the perfect combination of speed, power and most importantly manuverability. If used right he can rack up kills faster than any other character. To be used effectively though, Falco must become much like the bird he is modeled after, an aviary preadator. He is most powerful in the air because of his ability to cover large ditances quickly. When two other opponents are caught up in a duel he can fly in to the scene and strike down with a variety of powerfull attacks capitalizing on an opportunity for some easy KOs. Another tactic is to wait for opponents to be hit high up off the screen. Once they start their slow ascent downwards close in with his fiery aerial strike. Regardless of how you hit them this powerfull attack will always knock your opponent directly upward. If the attack is performed high enough on the screen it is capable of KOing opponents with even relatively low damage. One might think it foolish to do aerial attacks frequently, but with Falco there is not much of a risk because of his extremely fast falling rate, and quick attack recoveries. Even while Falco is high on damage he is extremely effective. His ability to move quickly makes him very difficult to hit, especially on the larger stages. This is one of the most effective Falco strategies. He is a master of drawing opponents in to careless situations where they expose themselves foolishly because they are enraged by the fact that they cant hit him. Sure some players might know better, but all it takes is a few annoying laser shots to keep them coming. That is the best thing about Falco, his ability to aggravate and annoy opponents. One thing I enjoy doing is waiting until I get a real cheesy kill on one of my opponents. Once my opponent flies off to his pathetic death, I pause the game, zoom in on Falco's head and spout out the words "Falco Forever". If done quickly this little effect should only interrupt the game for two seconds, but man is it worth it. I suppose the same could be done with any character, but it wouldnt have the same effect, simply because of Falco's arrogant demeanor. Anyways the whole reason for doing this is to enrage your opponent and have them come after you. This will cause a chain of wrecklessness that will make it easy for other players to cheap shot the angered opponent who is focused solely on you. While some may think that Fox who is also capable of performing the aformentioned strategies is the better of the two characters, I strongly disagree. Fox simply does not have the power to KO as easily as Falco. Furthermore his jump is weaker, which makes him less manuverable in the air. In VS melee time and stock modes, Falco is hands down the best. For you serious gamers out there, I hope you take this info to heart. Even if you don't use Falco that's all the better. Your friends will be shocked at how you effectively destructive this deceptive character can become.
 

wang

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For some reason, I guess that you concentrated on the aerial side of falco. And once again... there is no BEST character. For instance, lets take Roy who isn't a aerial character at all. Roy I think is more of a defensive character. And yes, very strong. A smart Roy would know to never get in the air and waits at edges with it's strong and smash attacks. Say you shoot laser at Roy, his counter can cancel it or easily be dodged. I'm not saying that falco is bad, but let's not assume that he's the best. Take Capitan Falcon, his B moves can easily take out falco. If Falcon was falling down from aboce, a down A smash attack would do or a blazing down B. I can go futher but I'll leave this at that.
 

Royce-da-5-9

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falco will always own fox cause of his infinite againts him throw down then quickly when you would useally use the deflector just throw again. makes fox seem like a pushover.
 

Zootematix

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I agree,
Falco is my best character (my sig character) and I also realize the potential of him. I know most of the aerial tricks that make Falco many times better thean Fox.
 

PorCorpWis

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Royce, that doesn't work if you recover from the downward throw. Being a newbie, you probably didn't know what was possible. :(

Anyway, the original dogmatic post is completly false. You may be skilled with Falco, but an equally skilled player with any character can beat you half the time. People like to think their character is "better" than the others in order to boost their ego with the confidence of knowing that they will have an advantage over any opponent using another character. It's often supported by the fact that they only play against CPUs and against their sucky friends. They beat their friends' asses with their particular character, and the friends complain that the character is "too good" and that's the reason they lost.

I personally use Fox as my primary character, and a myriad of others when my friends tire of being beaten by 6+ lives in a 10 life game. For each advantage that Falco has over Fox, Fox has an advantage over Falco. Since Fox falls faster, the timing to juggle him is different than any other character, and harder to accomplish. Although Fox's firefox is weaker, it goes at least twice as far. Although Fox's arial down + a doesn't spike, Fox's arial up + a can kill people at very low percentages if you hit them with it near the top of the stage, and it better for juggling with than Falco's. Although Fox is weaker, he is faster. I could go on endlessly. Although you may not be as good with Fox as Falco, that is not a testament to the overall potential of Fox. Since they are similar characters, you are obviously trying to play Fox with strategies developed specificly for Falco. Of course, to you, Fox seems like an inferior character. I assure you, if we fought, I could show you how to use Fox properly. ;)
 

Royce-da-5-9

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Originally posted by PorCorpWis:
<strong>Royce, that doesn't work if you recover from the downward throw. Being a newbie, you probably didn't know what was possible. :(

Anyway, the original dogmatic post is completly false. You may be skilled with Falco, but an equally skilled player with any character can beat you half the time. People like to think their character is "better" than the others in order to boost their ego with the confidence of knowing that they will have an advantage over any opponent using another character. It's often supported by the fact that they only play against CPUs and against their sucky friends. They beat their friends' asses with their particular character, and the friends complain that the character is "too good" and that's the reason they lost.

I personally use Fox as my primary character, and a myriad of others when my friends tire of being beaten by 6+ lives in a 10 life game. For each advantage that Falco has over Fox, Fox has an advantage over Falco. Since Fox falls faster, the timing to juggle him is different than any other character, and harder to accomplish. Although Fox's firefox is weaker, it goes at least twice as far. Although Fox's arial down + a doesn't spike, Fox's arial up + a can kill people at very low percentages if you hit them with it near the top of the stage, and it better for juggling with than Falco's. Although Fox is weaker, he is faster. I could go on endlessly. Although you may not be as good with Fox as Falco, that is not a testament to the overall potential of Fox. Since they are similar characters, you are obviously trying to play Fox with strategies developed specificly for Falco. Of course, to you, Fox seems like an inferior character. I assure you, if we fought, I could show you how to use Fox properly. ;) </strong><hr></blockquote>
hehe i did know this but many unexpierienced players wont recover at all they'lle just stare. but very nice comment. it is not the character you use.......but the player who plays that character
 

Canis lupus

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Yeah I agree with PorCorpWis - u haven't given Fox a fair chance. Heck, I bet you haven't even tried him much. "Falco has potential to be the best", well, everyone has potential to be the best if you weigh the advantages - SSBM is a very balanced game. In the hands of an expert everyone can be the best (just as he said Fox's Arial up-A can kill at about 60%, but it's hard to time. An expert who can always time it accurately can easily kill)... and why can't people stop being so egocentric? Heck, all these people runnin 'round sayin they can beat x% of the population on this forum, or so-and-so 0wnerz everyone else. No need to type up a 5-paragraph thesis essay (yeah I know this isn't but it's still awfully long-winded) to tell people old news - most of us know the advantages of each character, so we weigh and we choose, and we end up with who we use ;) .

[ February 13, 2002: Message edited by: Canis lupus ]</p>
 

UltiMario

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Holy ****!!!!!!
This was just bumped by Magno FIVE years after it died
FIVE YEARS
OMGWTFBQQ
 

brawlmaniac

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I know what you mean. I've seen videos where falco's own and destroy everything in their path. Also after reading some of the pro players interviews, they said their weakness was playing against a falco. Not very surprising if you ask me.
 
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Wooo, blast from the past i guess. Ummm..yea... thats good.
 

BlargCow

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For some reason, I guess that you concentrated on the aerial side of falco. And once again... there is no BEST character. For instance, lets take Roy who isn't a aerial character at all. Roy I think is more of a defensive character. And yes, very strong. A smart Roy would know to never get in the air and waits at edges with it's strong and smash attacks. Say you shoot laser at Roy, his counter can cancel it or easily be dodged. I'm not saying that falco is bad, but let's not assume that he's the best. Take Capitan Falcon, his B moves can easily take out falco. If Falcon was falling down from aboce, a down A smash attack would do or a blazing down B. I can go futher but I'll leave this at that.
Even though this is 5 years old, this comment made me lol.
 

ChronoSquare

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What makes it silly... is how this thread is now utterly irrelevant...

To paraphrase my friend KSSB, "Playing Falco leads you into a gutter that you can't get out of." (And he incidentally quoted it from someone else... who was it now? Forward?)
 

handsockpuppet

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And once again... there is no BEST character. For instance, lets take Roy who isn't a aerial character at all. Roy I think is more of a defensive character. And yes, very strong. A smart Roy would know to never get in the air and waits at edges with it's strong and smash attacks. Say you shoot laser at Roy, his counter can cancel it or easily be dodged.
um....no. I see what you're trying to get at, but Roy isn't a defensive character. A smart Roy would get in the air a lot for SHFFLS, wouldn't counter a laser because that's just stupid, and wouldn't wait at a ledge unless edgeguarding because of his bad recovery.

now, on topic. I think that most people do realize the potential of Falco, as he's 2nd on the Tier List and many Falcos have got great ranks. I wouldn't say any characters the BEST, but Falco is definitely a good one.
 

Stelfe

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NO ONE TOUCH THIS THREAD UNTIL 2012!!!

Ahaha, amazing how old this is.
 

~Tac~

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Yeah I agree with PorCorpWis - u haven't given Fox a fair chance. Heck, I bet you haven't even tried him much. "Falco has potential to be the best", well, everyone has potential to be the best if you weigh the advantages - SSBM is a very balanced game. In the hands of an expert everyone can be the best (just as he said Fox's Arial up-A can kill at about 60%, but it's hard to time. An expert who can always time it accurately can easily kill)... and why can't people stop being so egocentric? Heck, all these people runnin 'round sayin they can beat x% of the population on this forum, or so-and-so 0wnerz everyone else. No need to type up a 5-paragraph thesis essay (yeah I know this isn't but it's still awfully long-winded) to tell people old news - most of us know the advantages of each character, so we weigh and we choose, and we end up with who we use ;) .

[ February 13, 2002: Message edited by: Canis lupus ]</p>
(Posted 11-22-2007)Yawn
coff coff
falco gets gimped
coff coff
LOL. Mango is the one that revived it! Do I get a cookie?
 

Beet

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Well, I use Falco Over Fox, Ironicly Fox was my best char when I started playing Malee but then he wasnt doing it. I think Falco Represents Fox In The Original Smash. somewhat like it.
My Friend uses fox and I use falco and the speed in the Attacks doesnt change , we find our selves doing the same attacks and it goes for about 6 hits of continous combos. Its pretty crazzy lol
 

Charlesz

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Falco good character? I agree

At high level of playing falco can be one of the best characters to use if not the best , but fox is more flexible, faster, and has a better recovery. Sure falco owns fox in a match mostly but fox is overall a better character in my opinion.
 

handsockpuppet

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Falco? good?Roy?bad? i've been maining the wrong person this whole time. noooooooooooooooooooooo.
 
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