master marth

[legion598]

ok i was wondering if a master marth would beat a master snake and MK and by master i mean everything is tippered when advantagous and everything is frame-perfect. Also all advatages are used such as the down gab to tipped f-smash at the beginning and also throwing in some grab chains would marth beat a fully mastered MK or snake

 

[∫unk]

If 2 of your supposed "masters" were playing they would never hit each other.

Right now, good snakes and good metas are beating good marth's on a more consistent basis.

 

[legion598]

okay let me rephrase the question who has better stats? now i know MK has the best recovery and is the fastest but marth has nearly equivalent speed but if u add in his tips it brings his stats up more and i think its agreeable that it is harder to use a marth then a MK so when both are mastered who has higher ability

 

[Shaya]

Well technically, if we were to go with "masters".

It would be Marth who wins because of his counter. Even though MK has his own D-B that is well...

Yeah, if we get down to it, master vs master, Marth with counter would win.

 

[Ciel~Image]

I suspect a Marth who never makes a mistake could beat a similarly proficient Snake or Meta Knight. Marth has the tools to shut down almost anything thrown at him because of his range, so this hypothetically perfect Marth would probably be getting hit very rarely.

 

[TKD+ITA+Mar=]

No one would ever get hit or throw an attack.

 

[DarkRunner00]

perfect marth... I like the guys idea of them never really getting hit...

There is no such thing as perfect...

Each character has tools... Skill determines if the tools will be used properly--accordingly...

If every every character played accordingly... there would be no match...

Marth is too light...

But there is no perfect... Snake and MK are advantageous over Marth...

and I'm slowly realizing that Marth does have a fairly high competitive learning curve... in defence of that statement, other characters such as Link... if perfectly played (with an incredibly high learning curve) would be formidable...

Where, he has a jab cancel -> Utilt, Up B...
He can smash with projectiles (Bomb Smashing)
He has an auto canceled Zair
He has DAC much like snakes...

Projectiles that are actually of great use...

I'm not promoting link, if I'm sounding like him...

but he's just an example... that a "perfect" played character... is nonexistent, and if did... I'd root for Snake or Link... But...

I should say something like... Marth can Fan projectiles, making him, if perfectly played, immune to majority of projectiles... and bombs can be caught so if perfectly played he worries not about them...

He has a nice tipper advantage, and if perfectly played is rewarded with great not back...

He has a Dair, with a backside like no other, and so if perfectly played... Spikes game...

And the important specials, that make a perferct Marth dominant:

Dolphin Slash -> killer punsisher out of sheild (but a perfect enemy wouldn't get punished)

Shieldbreaker -> disarms opponents shield and occasionally paralyzes them.. (but again, who would allow their shield to deteriorate)

Dancing Blade -> Ultra trap and Wall of Defence, (but who would get trapped in it?)

And actually the most useful and defensive of all Marth's is COUNTER... B*TCH...
(But who would fall for a counter?)\\

EDIT:

AND SPEAKING OF NOT GETTING HIT...

did you guys see the MK's inifite cape...

 

[Retroking2000]

godly post ^

 

[Pierce7d]

If you wanna be the perfect Marth player, you better start perfect shielding everything. It's almost always your best form of defense (grabs and multiple hitboxes excluded.)

 

[xandeR-]

You can never possibly answer this question.

A "master" would be considered the best at their character but even those people make mistakes, whether they be gameplay or mental ones.

Any match in Smash comes down to who makes more mistakes and who takes advantage of those mistakes.

 

[DarkRunner00]

You can never possibly answer this question.

A "master" would be considered the best at their character but even those people make mistakes, whether they be gameplay or mental ones.

Any match in Smash comes down to who makes more mistakes and who takes advantage of those mistakes.

agreed. For instance... Ken is the father of melee marth... though he had a mean winning streak, he did lose to Azen at some point...

And how Azen had tricked ken in allowing him to survive...