Mass Effect (King Maker) - Glorious Way to End the Day. Mafia Wins!

[Death Bear]

Where'd you go BSP ?

 

[Death Bear]

i was expecting wifom by the way

 

[Death Bear]

BSP: Would you be executed / execute yourself for another town member ?

 

[Death Bear]

also kary, it worked for me + zen on swords newbie so don't knock it till you try it

 

[Death Bear]

i was expecting wifom by the way

 

[BarDulL]

why were you taking me seriously in the first place?

actually, wait, I'm bored of talking to you.



because he's my scumbuddy and I want to openly buddy with him so that people don't think we're scum together.

no, wait. what sort of answer are you expecting?

aaaand i'm done

call me when you need a townie

Copppp outtttttt.

Look mang, you're trying too hard with my slot. I'm the bee's knees. The momma's pajamas. The kangaroo pup. You're trying to dance in the wrong pants. I took you seriously because I wanted you to be my homeboy, but you turned on me and was all like "yo **** you dawg i don't want to be like dat" and so now I'm like "aw man, messed up bizness right der," and you're trying to push it after I've told you that you're seeing some **** that I'm just not seeing, foo.

Anyway, you picking up JD as a homeboy early on without ANYTHING to run with is interesting because the dude hasn't even posted yet. Like, even I'm pretty reserved about selecting my mates before I go balls deep, knowhati'msayin'? I want to know what's going on in that brain of theirs even if they're mega physically attractive.

(Like, this one girl I met was pretty hot, but she could hear voices/believed in ghosts/was extremely religious [which doesn't work for me]/was acting pretty shady while she was in a relationship.)

BRB laterz.

 

[BSP]

Bardull, you've made it clear that you had the idea of buddying with Kary from your #145 and some other posts. You've also said that Kary asking to buddy with JD is interesting because he hasn't posted.

You then said that you're reserved in your buddy picking. If this is true, can you tell me what exactly Kary did to cause you to ask him to accompany you in hardbodying?

BSP:

a) are you town
b) if you had a scumread strong enough, would you go against majority and execute them ?

a) yes
b) If I saw it fit, yes.

It's RVS, you're meant to open up discussion. And I wanted to talk about how I have two votes, which you appear to have overlooked in your votecount

I said treat this like a standard day, so I don't know where you're getting these 2 votes from.

Also, you said that RVS is meant to open up discussion, but right now you're accusing of Bardull of "trying too hard". What do you want?

I don't know and I don't really care right now, he is not on my RVS list of people to needlessly antagonize.

Why did you refuse to out who you have on said list when Death Bear asked you? (specifically, he said "a chart of your care level") Since they're on your list, that would mean you'd end up questioning them in RVS sooner or later, right? What's the harm in telling us who you're thinking of looking at right now?

BSP: Would you be executed / execute yourself for another town member ?

I'm not going to execute myself or just allow myself to be executed for someone else.

Do you think my answer to this question is indicative of anything?

 

[BSP]

Kary: re: trying to hard, see: current king. That is all

I probably should ignore this since you didn't present anything to back it up, but I'll give it a go.

Point out instance(s) where you think I'm trying to hard, and why this is bad. Am I scum for it?

 

[Omni]

I'll be here tomorrow. Today was my GF's birthday.

And it's not exactly over yet.

 

[Death Bear]

Why didn't you just ignore it though ?

 

[BSP]

Handorin (1) ; Dabuz
Dabuz(1); No Hetero
Omni (1); Soup
Bardull (1); Kary
BSP(1); Death Bear
Gheb(1); Bardull

Not voting: Omni, Mastermind, Jerkus, Handorin, BSP, Gheb, JDietz


Also Death Bear, I don't think you gave me an opinion of how I'm running this. I would like one.

 

[Death Bear]

you quoted my opinion just 3 posts ago.

 

[BarDulL]

I saw some town meta/general towniness in Kary's first big post and I was like "hmmm TownKary?" and wanted to see how he responded to my offer of being hardbody partners. 'Course then he went ape **** on me =(. I defo wouldn't have given him an immediate pass for the rest of the day so long as he wasn't putting in the "hard" in "hardbodying" though, but I felt ok with his slot for the time being until his read on me where I was presumably "trying too hard by opening avenues of conversation." I don't necessarily think he's scum for it though and I actually think my interaction with him had some merit, but he needs to look in a different direction and start towering people who aren't being protown.

 

[BSP]

Why didn't you just ignore it though ?

Because I decided it'd be more fruitful to ask you to back your statement up.

 

[Death Bear]

Why ?

 

[BSP]

you quoted my opinion just 3 posts ago.

Is it the trying too hard? If it is, then what I said in my #208

 

[BSP]

Why ?

Give me some answers first. Show me where I'm trying too hard and why it's bad.

 

[Death Bear]

I never said it was bad though

 

[Dabuz]

I'm fine with the king running things however he wants. BSP, if you want to run toDay like a standard D1, go ahead. If you don't want to, I'm also fine with that.

Why are you okay with that, Dabuz?

I'm fine with the king running the Day however he wants because even if town wants to tell him what to do, he can do W/E he wants.

JDietz, buddy with me this game. Let's get Dabuz killed. Maybe we can recruit a big shot power player to our cause, perhaps No Hetero. But that's much of a muchness.

The two of us, let's run this town.

Kary, followup on this. Why would you want me killed at that point in the game?

 

[Death Bear]

Give me some answers first. Show me where I'm trying too hard .

Re: You trying to hard:

I also want everyone to give me an opinion of how they think I should run this day. What I should and shouldn't do. Do you think running it like a standard D1 is good or bad?

I'm pretty confident in running toDay like a standard day

Do the underlined then.

I still want opinions. Tell me your opinion of my decision to run this like a standard day. Are you ok with it? Do you think I could be doing something better?
Tell me your opinion as well.

If it wasn't a big deal, why did you still take the time to point out a possibility of what Gheb meant?
I want your opinion on how toDay should be run. Are you fine with my ideas, or do you think I should be doing something differently?

no

why would you want such a thing?

Because if your going to say he's not on your list you should have no issue producing said list ?

 

[Dabuz]

After Skimming Kary and Bardull's interactions, looks like Kary just pressured for the sake of getting pressure, doesn't seem like he/ she had any reason to pressure.

 

[BSP]

I never said it was bad though

Sure enough, you did not. However, that doesn't change the fact that you pointed it out to Kary. So where are you getting this trying too hard notion from?

 

[BSP]

Re: You trying to hard:

Pull up something before you made the statement.

Because if your going to say he's not on your list you should have no issue producing said list ?

I'm not sure if this question is for me. Is it?

 

[Death Bear]

BSP, if it wasn't clear, you need to stop worrying about people's opinion of how you handle the day and just handle it like you said you would , if thats how you want to run it.

You constantly repeating that you want opinions makes me hesitant to call you anything beyond null because you seem to be trying to walk the safety border and not step on any toes or have people disagree with what you do, when IMO as a town king you should/would give 0 ****'s and just do it your way.

Re: Your last question: No, it was directed at Kary.

 

[Death Bear]

Also, the do the underlined was suppossed to be at the end , those three quotes are what make me say your trying too hard. If it wasn't clear.

 

[BSP]

Oh, ok.

I'll take that middle section as what you're gathering from me trying too hard.

But in response to the middle, you'll see why I'm doing it later once everyone is actually in this game. It's not for safety.

 

[Death Bear]

BSP, if you had to absolutely kill someone right this instant , who would you kill

 

[BarDulL]

I'm fine with the king running the Day however he wants because even if town wants to tell him what to do, he can do W/E he wants.

I don't mean to interject in this conversation cause hell, I've been talking a lot, but here's a hypothetical for you:

BSP executes someone right now.

What do you feel are the problems with him doing this?

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

We're in the RVS stage of the game, so a player who is as experienced with Mafia as Gheb is should be trying to progress discussion forward and get the ball rolling, however all he's done so far is offer basic advice to BSP and say "Bardull/soup, quit being counterproductive" when, really, we're not being counterproductive whatsoever. I don't want people thinking I'm a bad king, so I'm going to fight to holy hell on it if I have to, because to not do so would be anti-town for my faction. Any blanket statements regarding my slot need to be cast aside because they aren't warranted for the time being, and I'm saying this primarily because not only is that a true statement, but it also sets me up for being able to better help Town when my slot isn't blanketed by baseless disregard for my capacity for the game. I can be very helpful when I've got the power to go with it.

That being said, Gheb hasn't done anything stellar enough to warrant being in any kind of position of power, so it bothers me that, if he IS trying to play armchair critic, that he's doing a poor job of pushing Town in the right direction and yes, it's bothersome at this point in time.

Okay. So your feelings were hurt and you want a gun. I don't think it should matter and if you're town you'll get a gun if you're deemed worthy to have one.

Maybe Gheb is doing something in his own way and you're reading into what he's saying too much? I don't understand why you feel Gheb is acting that way at all. Gheb's armchair isn't something that is new to his style and he does it as both scum and town. What's the specific tell behind it? I find your point about gheb not voting silly and irrelevant, considering what sort of game this is.

 

[Omni]

Bardull, that's a simple question that won't net anything outside from the common line of thinking.

I'm fine with the king running the Day however he wants because even if town wants to tell him what to do, he can do W/E he wants.

I'm not too sure how much thought you put into this.

Being King makes you immune to a day lynch and gives you the ability to lynch another person. That's it. A temporary gain of status that can (and most likely) be transferred to another person the next day.

Theoretically speaking all of us can do whatever we want. That doesn't mean we can be any less accountable for own actions and responsible for deciphering other player's actions.

Your logic + odd usage of the term "town" in your statement makes me lean airhead town. Doubt scum would be that wreckless this early into the game.

Vote: Dabuz

How do you feel about my read on you and the reasoning behind it?

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

Could I please get a reasoning why you think Gheb is trying to get a position of power and why the Kingmaker factor is bothering you've so much, Bardull? It's almost an obsession.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

kary, is gheb town ?

Unvote; Vote: Death Bear

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

Your logic + odd usage of the term "town" in your statement makes me lean airhead town. Doubt scum would be that wreckless this early into the game.

Sup. Could I get examples? Bardull's a curious case for me.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

I'm so indecisive about my fake vote.

Rake, tell me your gameplan for this game and what style you're going to take this game. Right now I feel as if you haven't let yourself on for your intentions as you usually do. Are you letting yourself be more preserved this game?

Unvote

 

[Handorin]

Yo. Sup guys. I'm full of delicious Chicago deep dish pizza and super tired, but even through all that this thread has given me a laugh.

BSP- Don't even care about us. Do what you want. We got some power house minds and opinions and way different play styles here. Opinions will vary substantially, especially D1. Really, I think the only thing would be the town should give more attention to you (or any king) cause if they don't, it could be their neck on the line.

I'm not sure how I feel about bardull at the moment. The edited quotes bothers me a lot actually. It isn't very conventional and feels like he uses it to hide things or subtly change his opinion without having to recant things outright. The changes haven't been too bad though, so I can't call it outright scummy as of yet.

All of this king talk though is rubbish IMO. It's pretty unnecessary and clutters the thread. This isn't a democracy. The king will pick the person whom he wants and thinks is the best. End of story.

That said, I think bardull vs Kary is TvT. I don't think either are scum, but I'd say bardull is scummier of the two. Kary is being his normal nonchalant self and I can see where he's coming from.

I'd like to see some talk from others though. Specifically JD's response to joining Kary's hardbody crew.

vote: jerkus
Speak now or forever jerk in peace.

 

[Handorin]

Oh, I forgot to say. I'm loving death bears view on things. I'm pretty much in agreence with his views.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

I can't tell if Bardull is just really ignorant or scum. It's bothering me.

I don't like any of his posts, his attitude towards Kary is more striking compared to Gheb. I don't feel he's giving a meritable reason on Gheb yet he's voting him comparative to the very long conversation he had with Kary. He needs to get his priorities in check as it just delves down in Bardull trying to defend himself in nearly every post and then playing this passive-aggressive game with Kary. I could take a shot in the dark and lean on town for now.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

Look mang, you're trying too hard with my slot. I'm the bee's knees. The momma's pajamas. The kangaroo pup. You're trying to dance in the wrong pants.

What are you even doing this game?

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

I'm gonna have more fun with this game when I see Jerkus or Mastermind show up. I'm out for now, very tired. I might elaborate on some things if I need to tommorow, not in the mood or the right mindset.

 

[BarDulL]

Admittedly I kinda skimmed all these posts, I'll give a complete read later. For now:

Soup, reaadddd myyyy sloooooottttt.

Omnimang, we'll talk about my posed hypothetical later and why it's important, but it isn't an immediately required response from Dabuz.